print to dv tape HELP!

the_learninator wrote on 2/20/2005, 6:14 PM
I got a 1hour 50min video right that i edited in vegas...

i started printing to tape but after about 1hour 30min the tape ended and the print to tape function on vegas kept right on goin so i tried to hurry up and stick a new tape in to record and i couldn't get it to work...

so my question to yall is how do i get this bad boy on 2 dv tapes? cuz it wont fit on one. and when i went back to try to print to tape again thinking i can just set where i want it to start printing from it started the entire process over again (prerender and all)

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jetdv wrote on 2/20/2005, 6:22 PM
There's a few options available:

1) Use full size DV tapes which can easily handle over 2 hours
2) Use LP mode on an 83 minute MiniDV (not necessarily recommended)
3) Print to Tape sections of the complete video.

You would NOT want Vegas to stop at the end of a tape as you may also be sending the signal elsewhere (i.e. recording VHS as well using pass-thru in which case you would NOT want a break) or you may even be using pass-through WITHOUT a tape in the camera/deck or you may be using a convertor that does not even have a tape. Just plan according to what you are recording to.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/20/2005, 6:28 PM
Using (relyiing) on pre-renders for projects is full of potential pitfalls... Does much of your timeline <need> to be rendered? If it is a lot... then I would recommend you do actually render the entire timeline to a new DV AVI file. That way you can do your PTT of that at your lesuire and be assured you will not be hit with the loss of the pre-renders.

You can PTT "selections" on the timeline. Just do your selection and then do a tools PTT and indicate you want to do just the selected area. You might want to mark the two areas of the timeline into regions so you can more easily identify/select and then PTT each portion.

It sounds like you were surprised that you could fit just 90 minutes onto the tape you had. Likely you were running a regular 60 minute tape in LP mode? If so... then you could go the extra step and use an 80 minute tape in LP mode as that will easily fit your entire project on it. I would not ordinarily recommend using LP mode... but if you are already.. .then no real harm done to use an 80 minute instead.
the_learninator wrote on 2/20/2005, 8:55 PM
yea i perfer to use SP mode because the quality is (of course) better and i'm all about high clean quality (ohhhh yeaaa!)

i guess what i'll do for now is divide up my VV files no longer than 1 hour

and just record to 2 tapes. Man a full DV (2hours) cost 10 a piece! them bad boys expensive but i might get some one of these days.

so this pre render thingie me bobb....it only renders the effects? or things that have been edited from the original AVI? or how does that work. I defintely noticed that pre rendering goes a looooooooot faster than a regular render.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/20/2005, 9:04 PM
So... if you were running in SP mode... how did you manage to fit 90 minutes on a tape?

LP vs SP mode does not actually alter the "quality" as such... it runs the tape slower in LP mode so you can fit more information on it. That does introduce the possibility of more impact from drop-outs so if you can avoid LP mode... you would be assured of a better end result anyway.

Pre-rendering is no different to rendering... it should not be any quicker to pre-render than it is to render to a new DV AVI file. And... as I mentioned... pre-rendering is often a cause for problems as they get messed up (lost) with any simple changes to the original project.
the_learninator wrote on 2/20/2005, 10:14 PM
ahhh i see i see....

well i don't know what in the world happen. usually for me to render a 2 hour video in DVD ready MPEG2 format takes about 24 hours.

I prerendered this 1and 50min video in about 3 hours. then again it didn't have much effects on transitions..

would me having a new graphics card have anything to do with it. i also upgraded my HD..
Liam_Vegas wrote on 2/20/2005, 10:27 PM
I'm <really> confused now. I thought you were talking about doing a PTT - which has nothing to do with MPEG rendering for DVD?

If it took you 3 hours to pre-render - then it should have taken you 3 hours to render to DV AVI. Rendering to MPEG is usually a <little> longer than rendering to AVI... but not the difference of 3 hours to 24 hours.