Subject:refund or license resale policy?

Posted by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/26/2005 6:20:15 AM

I have NOT registered my acid pro yet, repeat I have NOT registered it....

I am finding I am not really happy with it so far. sorry. I should have tested the demo. I admit I am stupid. If I had known before that the demo had 30 days functionality just as I have noe (as i havent registered it), then I would have done that.

what is the sony refund policy, is there a 30 day satisfaction guarantee? Also, what is the license resale policy if there is no refund policy??

cheers

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:1/26/2005 6:25:29 AM

I don’t know about the refund policy but the license is FULLY transferable even if you did register it. Sony is VERY good in that way. (unlike companies like Cakewalk that won’t allow you to sell a used copy of their software). If Sony won’t refund your money you can always sell it on eBay.

I see you were having some problems. Why don’t you wait for the 5.0a update before you jump ship? (unless you don’t like the way ACID works in general)

~jr

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/26/2005 8:34:57 AM

Thanks Johnny that is good to know.

I'm confused.

I find it unstable, and the lack of sidechain(for midi gating) annoying, however, it is so musical and superb and easy to get tunes flowing....i think i will keep it after all for now...

i hope the 5.0a update brings stability improvements. before i had a crash using the command "render to new track" with the included fm7 express! That should NOT happen on something so simple......

but for workflow, jah jah koombadah, it is the bees knees.

one thing, i noticed it supports opt..are there any midi opt plugins of any use currently around? the acid midi is a bit lacking...

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:1/26/2005 8:55:32 AM

>>the lack of sidechain(for midi gating) annoying,

What is this you want?
What software does this?

Peter

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/26/2005 9:18:34 AM

actually every other vst host in the world does this, and that's a fact.

it's simple.

play audio instrument, let's use example, pro 53.

place vst midi gate on pro53 effects insert. let's use example, the free one available from destroyfx.

create midi channel, but instead of assigning it to pro 53, assign it to the midi gate.

now you can play your trance lines, etc.

and also why are we not able to automate vst instruments, yet we can automate effects?

and lastly, is there planned compatibility for mfx, since there seems to be no opt plugins out there???

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:1/26/2005 1:06:55 PM

Peter,

It sounds like he’s trying to do this.

Tranceboy,

> and also why are we not able to automate vst instruments, yet we can automate effects?

You CAN automate vst instruments, you just can’t use track envelopes to do it. Go into the MIDI Piano Roll Editor and select the controller that you want to automate (click on Volume and change it to whatever CC you want) and then paint the controller information at the bottom of the editor. Not as flexible as using envelope but it works.

> and lastly, is there planned compatibility for mfx, since there seems to be no opt plugins out there???

MIDI FX is part of DXi2 support and ACID doesn’t support DXi so this seems bigger than just dropping OPT for MFX. It’s unfortunate that OPT didn’t take off. You can find some OPT plug-ins from GenieSys.

~jr

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:1/26/2005 10:10:54 PM

Ok, I see what it is. I could see some cool FX comming out of this. Just don't support such routing or combination of Instruments and FX.

I have tried it in Cubase and Nuendo. What other hosts in the "world" support this?

You can use MIDI CC's to control a Softsynth's params.

No plan to support MFX.

Peter

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/27/2005 12:19:00 AM

> and lastly, is there planned compatibility for mfx, since there seems to be no opt plugins out there???

MIDI FX is part of DXi2 support and ACID doesn’t support DXi so this seems bigger than just dropping OPT for MFX. It’s unfortunate that OPT didn’t take off. You can find some OPT plug-ins from GenieSys.

--Actually, cubase supports mfx and definitely NOT dxi or dxi2... regarding the genesys ones, yes i was aware of those, but they continuously crash and are soo unstable it's not worth it. there must be some others around somewhere

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/27/2005 12:22:59 AM

""Ok, I see what it is. I could see some cool FX comming out of this. Just don't support such routing or combination of Instruments and FX.

I have tried it in Cubase and Nuendo. What other hosts in the "world" support this?""


---Actualy, it's a bigger limitation than you might think. It also closes the doors to many midi controllable vocoders, filters, and so on. I really think you should push this feature to be included one day. I bet if we did a poll the majority woud agree.

regarding other hosts, ones i have tried that support this:
Logic 5 and up,Fruity, Tracktion, Sonar,

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:1/27/2005 8:11:07 AM

I understand the limitation.

It will be discussed for a future version.

Peter

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/27/2005 10:06:19 AM

hi, can i get an answer to my initial question??

what IS Sony's refund policy on unregistered software (bought directly at the webshop)

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/27/2005 10:46:35 AM

sorry, and also my question in my first thread that went unanswerd, are there any plans to integrate a cpu meter??

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:1/27/2005 2:35:06 PM

No plans on the CPU meter.

I am an engineer. You will have to contact our sales group WRT to any refunds.

Peter

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/28/2005 6:51:35 AM

I found an alternative, but I find your attitude to implementing a cpu meter to be so ridiculously Anti, that to this day I can't understand it. whatever.

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:1/28/2005 9:49:05 AM

I'm failing to see Peter's "Attiude". I believe he's just stating the facts, that they currently have no plans for developing it. A few versions back, Vegas had a CPU meter, and it seemed to cause more problems than what it's worth. Probably, due to this previous problems, this has been frowned upon in weighing in the benefits vs. the time to develop one that works properly. Why can't you just use the Windows CPU meter?

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: MyST

Date:1/28/2005 11:30:35 AM

You didn't detect the attitude because you failed you read between the words, like this user obviously did.

NO, there are no f***ing PLANS to invest any of my precious time ON developing THE CPU METER for you or any of your ugly friends.

It's right there staring at ya!

Mario

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: SRStudios

Date:1/28/2005 1:59:16 PM

Is ther a 5.0a update coming out soon, I'm experiencing a coup0le of minor issues, Media Manager doesn't load preperly ext. Just wondering

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: MyST

Date:1/28/2005 2:19:23 PM

I'd say it shouldn't be too long now. 5.0a is already out for Music Sudio. However, Pro is much more complicated, so it'll obviously take a little longer.

My best guesstimate.

Mario

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: SRStudios

Date:1/30/2005 7:11:57 AM

Thanks Mario for the response, there are a couple of problems with current version, I hope they are solved soon, I've been a loyal Acio user since the start and certainly expect Sony willl come through with the fixes. Again, thanks for the response.

Subject:RE: refund or license resale policy?

Reply by: merlyn60

Date:1/31/2005 8:28:17 AM

Tranceboy: As far as gating, there is a much easier way of doing your gated trance lines. All you have to do is render your synth to an audio sample, set your grid to snap to 16th or 32nd, select the erase tool, and erase what ever part of the audio you want to be "gated". Should solve your problem very easily.

Subject:Gated Trance Line

Reply by: merlyn60

Date:1/31/2005 8:29:32 AM

Tranceboy: As far as gating, there is a much easier way of doing your gated trance lines. All you have to do is render your synth to an audio sample, set your grid to snap to 16th or 32nd, select the erase tool, and erase what ever part of the audio you want to be "gated". Should solve your problem very easily.

Subject:RE: Gated Trance Line

Reply by: TRANCEBOY

Date:1/31/2005 10:30:03 PM

actually, there is easier again, just use any of the free vst plug in gaters that have an onboard sequencer.

the problem is, the are usually 16 steps. i have created gated patterns as intricate as 128 steps.

your audio method is flawed, it gives you no control of attack or release time of the gate

Subject:RE: Gated Trance Line

Reply by: merlyn60

Date:2/1/2005 9:09:57 AM

You can always set the the attack and decay of any audio sample in Acid by taking the cursor and placing it over the upper edge of the sample. The cursor will change and you can drag the fade in and fade out to whatever position that you want. Sounds like your lines can get a bit complex. If it helps, great. If not, I tried.