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Subject:DLS Soft Synth
Posted by: ____
Date:1/26/2005 3:34:01 PM

When you instert a DLS Soft Synth, is there a way that you can create a beat by clicking on an instrument and then click on the keyboard in the Soft Synth Properties window, or by clicking with your computer keyboard, and then record it? If not, how do you create a beat without a electronic keyboard?

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/26/2005 4:02:20 PM

No you cannot “play” the little keyboards. There is a Mouse Keyboard but I’ve never used it. (I have a MIDI Keyboard controller). The only other option is to manually paint the notes using the MIDI Piano Roll Editor. You can also step edit in the List Editor but I believe that requires are hardware keyboard as well, although the mouse keyboard might work there too.

You should seriously look into getting a MIDI keyboard controller if you want to play music. The Evolution eKeys USB is only $49!

(BTW, How do you pronounce ____?)

~jr

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: ____
Date:1/26/2005 4:36:59 PM

I downloaded Mouse Keyboard. but hiow do you save it so you can use it on Acid? Is there a tutorial for Piano Roll Editor. How do you change the patch?

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/26/2005 7:09:55 PM

> I downloaded Mouse Keyboard. but hiow do you save it so you can use it on Acid?

First you need to install it. Then you need to use something like the Virtual MIDI Router or MIDI Yoke to create a virtual MIDI cable. Then you route the Mouse Keyboard’s output to the Virtual MIDI Router or MIDI Yoke and configure ACID’s MIDI input to read from the same MIDI port.

You also need to uncheck the Options > Preferences > General [] Close audio and MIDI ports when ACID is not the active application. Otherwise ACID will close the MIDI ports when it looses focus. (i.e., when you play the Mouse Keyboard)

Once again, this is an extremely crude and inaccurate way of playing. You should consider getting a MIDI Keyboard Controller.

> Is there a tutorial for Piano Roll Editor.

You can read the help file. It’s pretty easy. You just paint the notes where you want them.

> How do you change the patch?

You can just select the patch you want from the DLS Soft Synth Properties for the first patch. If you want the patch to change while playing, you’ll have to insert program changes manually using the List Editor.

~jr

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: ____
Date:1/28/2005 5:45:53 PM

For some reason I can't pu the volume down on the midi when you make it. Also when you make another midi track on the same project you can't have two different instruments for them.

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/28/2005 7:21:14 PM

> For some reason I can't pu the volume down on the midi when you make it.

Control the volume from the DLS Soft Synth Bus.

> Also when you make another midi track on the same project you can't have two different instruments for them.

The DLS can only play one instrument at a time. Insert a second DLS Soft Synth for the second MIDI track and set it to a different instrument.

~jr

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: pwppch
Date:1/28/2005 8:49:04 PM

>>The DLS can only play one instrument at a time. Insert a second DLS Soft Synth for the second MIDI track and set it to a different instrument
<<

This is incorrect. The DLS synth is multi-timbral. You can play upto 16 different voices - one for each MIDI channel.
The default voicing is the simple Roland GS GM sound set, but you can load any DLS I or II sound set available.

So, you can have as many as 16 individual ACID MIDI tracks each playing on a different MIDI channel, each with a different voice.

Peter


Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: ____
Date:1/28/2005 8:51:28 PM

On the same syth properties you just change the channel and it will be a different instrument. It always stays on the same instrument, What is the name of the Acid Patch File. So you can instert it into Mouse Keyboard.

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: ____
Date:1/28/2005 9:16:36 PM

On the same syth properties you just change the channel and it will be a different instrument. It always stays on the same instrument, What is the name of the Acid Patch File. So you can instert it into Mouse Keyboard.

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/29/2005 5:02:41 AM

> This is incorrect. The DLS synth is multi-timbral.

Of course it’s muiti-timbral, how else could it play a general MIDI file (Duh!). My bad, I wasn’t thinking.

> It always stays on the same instrument. What is the name of the Acid Patch File. So you can insert it into Mouse Keyboard

In the DLS Soft Synth you can select the Channel from the drop-down and then select a patch from the Available voices. This will program which voice responds to what channel. Then in the Mouse Keyboard when you change the channel the sound will change. I don’t know of any patch file for the DLS Synth but as Peter pointed out, it's the Roland GS GM sound set so you might be able to find one on the web.

~jr

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: pwppch
Date:1/29/2005 12:22:06 PM

There is no "ACID patch" file, if I understand you correctly.

What are you trying to do?

Also...

If you have MIDI file on a Track in ACID, any patch changes in that MIDI file will override any changes you make at the synth.

You can either edit the MIDI sequence to change the patch , delete any patch changes in the file, or filter out the patch changes.

Realize that the patch change you make in the synth will only affect the channel that a MIDI track is playing on. You can remap/channel a MIDI track from the tracks General Properties page.

Peter

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: ____
Date:1/29/2005 3:09:26 PM

So you can have the same instruments in Mouse Keyboard and Acid.

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/29/2005 5:28:27 PM

> So you can have the same instruments in Mouse Keyboard and Acid

I just tried and you can’t because the patch set format isn’t even documented in the readme file. You might want to send them an email and see if they will tell you how to create one of these patch files. You will have to set the patches manually in the DLS synth and just change the channel numbers with the mouse keyboard.

~jr

Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: pwppch
Date:1/29/2005 6:35:58 PM

It looks like this thing includes a GM device/patch set. It doesn't cover all of the extended patches in the DLS sound set, but it works fine.

Set it up using our Virtual MIDI Router (available as a download from this site) and you are good to go.

If you want to add the rest of the available samples, it looks easy enough to do.

Cool little utility.

Peter




Subject:RE: DLS Soft Synth
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:1/29/2005 8:17:47 PM

Wow, I didn’t see the \Patch Scripts directory at first. I guess it would be easy to make one up for the ACID DLS Synth. I've been using it with the Vitrual MIDI Router and it seems to work fine.

~jr

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