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Subject:New on the block Posted by: Bluesman97540 Date:1/11/2005 4:27:27 PM Hi! My name is Dave and I am SOOOO lost in this digital world. Been an analog studio owner for years and now want to 'change my ways" hahaha. I have Sound Forge 4.5, Creative labs sound blaster live and an HP Pavillion 7850. I am getting ready to replace the HP as my "everyday" PC and put it in the studio. I have a 12 channel analog board and analog recorder (8 track 15ips pro recorder) in the studio. At the moment I need to mix down analog tapes (stereo) to CDs to send out for demos to record companies and publishers (Later I would like to do all my work live onto the PC). Do I have what I need to do that? AND (my assumption is...please correct anything wrong in this chain)....all I need is to upgrade the soundcard and drivers (I'm using XP), Install the Sound Forge 4.5, take the outputs from the 12 channel board and go into the soundcard (which I assume is stereo....????) and I should be able to produce a stereo file on the harddrive that I can burn to a CD using the CD burner in the PC. ANY help would be appreciated. Thanx, Dave
Subject:RE: New on the block Reply by: RiRo Date:1/11/2005 6:40:45 PM That is one way to do it, but not nearly up to date. 4.5 was good in its day, but is limited. To do any real mastering, you will need directX plugins, which 4.5 does not support. To do much more than mastering in the digital world, you would need vegas. Vegas is a multi-track environment that lets you do everything in a controlled and precise way. I would grab hold of a Echo Layla sound card and take all eight outs into vegas at one shot. Then you can do everything mixing-wise in Vegas, then master in Sound Forge. Digital is wonderful. I was a slow converter from a 1/2 inch reel, and I am amazed at how fast and how much I can do with Vegas and Forge. RiRo
Subject:RE: New on the block Reply by: Sonic Date:1/11/2005 9:03:46 PM 4.5 actually does support DirectX plug-ins (4.0a was the first if I recall correctly). But it does not support 24-bit, non-destructive editing, chainer, fx automation, new file formats, etc., etc. J.
Subject:RE: New on the block Reply by: Rednroll Date:1/12/2005 7:06:15 AM I mastered many CD's with SF v4.5. You bet your bippy it has DirectX plugin support. It doesn't have the plugin chainer like newer versions, but it does have the "cd architect" menu item located under the tools menu. As Riro said, look into getting Vegas. Vegas is a true multitracking software and will allow you to simultaneously playback and record. You are only limited by the amount of inputs you have available on your sound card for the amount of simultaneously recorded tracks. Sound Forge and Vegas integrate well together. That is you can be working on a track in Vegas and decide you'ld like to do something to it in Sound Forge, then alls you have to do is right click on the track and select the menu item to "open in Sound Forge" and up pops that track in Sound Forge. Then any changes you apply in sound forge get updated in Vegas. Another useful tool that Vegas has that many people over look is that Vegas is a very powerful CD burning software, which could be very usefull in doing the task you described. That is you can place all your songs in order in which you want them to be on the CD and you can place CD track IDs anywhere you liker them to appear. Then you just burn a CD and that's how your CD will be layed out. Definately get rid of the sound blaster card. Look into getiing something by Echo, or M-audio that fits your needs.. www.echoaudio.com www.m-audio.com

Subject:New on the block

Date:1/11/2005 4:27:27 PM

Hi! My name is Dave and I am SOOOO lost in this digital world. Been an analog studio owner for years and now want to 'change my ways" hahaha. I have Sound Forge 4.5, Creative labs sound blaster live and an HP Pavillion 7850. I am getting ready to replace the HP as my "everyday" PC and put it in the studio. I have a 12 channel analog board and analog recorder (8 track 15ips pro recorder) in the studio. At the moment I need to mix down analog tapes (stereo) to CDs to send out for demos to record companies and publishers (Later I would like to do all my work live onto the PC). Do I have what I need to do that? AND (my assumption is...please correct anything wrong in this chain)....all I need is to upgrade the soundcard and drivers (I'm using XP), Install the Sound Forge 4.5, take the outputs from the 12 channel board and go into the soundcard (which I assume is stereo....????) and I should be able to produce a stereo file on the harddrive that I can burn to a CD using the CD burner in the PC. ANY help would be appreciated.
Thanx,
Dave

Subject:RE: New on the block

Reply by: RiRo

Date:1/11/2005 6:40:45 PM

That is one way to do it, but not nearly up to date. 4.5 was good in its day, but is limited. To do any real mastering, you will need directX plugins, which 4.5 does not support.

To do much more than mastering in the digital world, you would need vegas. Vegas is a multi-track environment that lets you do everything in a controlled and precise way. I would grab hold of a Echo Layla sound card and take all eight outs into vegas at one shot. Then you can do everything mixing-wise in Vegas, then master in Sound Forge.

Digital is wonderful. I was a slow converter from a 1/2 inch reel, and I am amazed at how fast and how much I can do with Vegas and Forge.

RiRo

Subject:RE: New on the block

Reply by: Sonic

Date:1/11/2005 9:03:46 PM

4.5 actually does support DirectX plug-ins (4.0a was the first if I recall correctly).

But it does not support 24-bit, non-destructive editing, chainer, fx automation, new file formats, etc., etc.

J.

Subject:RE: New on the block

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:1/12/2005 7:06:15 AM

I mastered many CD's with SF v4.5. You bet your bippy it has DirectX plugin support. It doesn't have the plugin chainer like newer versions, but it does have the "cd architect" menu item located under the tools menu.

As Riro said, look into getting Vegas. Vegas is a true multitracking software and will allow you to simultaneously playback and record. You are only limited by the amount of inputs you have available on your sound card for the amount of simultaneously recorded tracks. Sound Forge and Vegas integrate well together. That is you can be working on a track in Vegas and decide you'ld like to do something to it in Sound Forge, then alls you have to do is right click on the track and select the menu item to "open in Sound Forge" and up pops that track in Sound Forge. Then any changes you apply in sound forge get updated in Vegas. Another useful tool that Vegas has that many people over look is that Vegas is a very powerful CD burning software, which could be very usefull in doing the task you described. That is you can place all your songs in order in which you want them to be on the CD and you can place CD track IDs anywhere you liker them to appear. Then you just burn a CD and that's how your CD will be layed out.

Definately get rid of the sound blaster card. Look into getiing something by Echo, or M-audio that fits your needs..
www.echoaudio.com
www.m-audio.com