Subject:More Media Manager machinations

Posted by: knowbody

Date:12/29/2004 12:09:01 AM

Is there any easy way to add a tag to a loop indicating it has been used? What I'd like to be able to do is add such a tag to every track used in a mix. This way I can easily keep track of what loops I have used. So if I open up an old mix I'd like to be able to tag the loops without searching for them individually.

I couldn't find an easy way to find a loop used in a mix in the media manager. For example I have a loop called Bass 09. I did a search on name (under advanced) but the media manager gave me every loop containing "bass" and "09" - is there a way to actually search on whole file names?

Thanks,

Chris (Hunt)

Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/29/2004 11:07:53 AM

The "Advanced" field is used for tags. Use the quick text search field above the tag tree to find loops with a specific name. (It'll take a little longer than finding loops by tags.)

Do you have the "save media usage relationships in active library" option enabled on the General tab under Options > Preferences? (It's towards the bottom.) You can find out, for example, what media was used with what by right-clicking a media file in the Search Results pane and selecting Find Related Items > Used with.

HTH,
Iacobus
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Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: knowbody

Date:1/1/2005 8:59:30 AM

Thanks for the tips. I do have the "save media usage relationships in active library" option enabled and the right click find related items list is interesting but not exactly what I had in mind. I want to be able to find all used items in one go rather than search individually. There should be a way to tag loops being used in a project.

I don't think the quick text search field works just for names. For example I just did a search on "bass" and got the result "120bpmambientdroner.wav" which I think should be excluded but isn't because it has a "bass" tag. I want to be able to search on name alone and ignore tags. I discovered that if I enclose the search term in quotation marks using the advanced name field I get results which include that string but not just that string. Eg:

"bass 02" returns any loop containing 'bass 02'
bass 02 returns any loop containing 'bass' and '02'

But I want the search just to return loops called 'bass 02' and nothing else. It should be possible to search on an exact name.

All the best,

Chris

Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:1/3/2005 11:45:42 AM

I do know that if you use a subtraction sign ( - ) right before the keyword you do not want included, the Media Manager will exclude the media containing that keyword.

If you want to find "bass 02" and nothing else, enclosing them in quotes would be your best bet, even if it means finding loops containing something other than "bass 02" in their titles.

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Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: SonySCS

Date:1/3/2005 12:56:54 PM

The text search is separate from the tag search. 120bpmambientdroner.wav must have had the word bass somewhere (path, comments, keyword, copyright ...).
Do you have any other info in addition to "bass 02"? Adding Tags and Advanced search to Quick text search is possible.

-Suzan

Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: jwf

Date:1/3/2005 1:44:22 PM

The quick text search will search for the text in all of the properties for a media file that could contain text. So searching for "bass" might find files that are named trumpet.wav, but happen to have "bassanova" in the copyright field (as an extreme example).

If you want to search a specific property for text, you can constrain the search to just the filename or just the copyright property for example by using the advanced search pane.

The help covers a lot of extra text search power with quotes, *, ?, and - markers.

Your suggestion of having a way to express "show me all the media files that I've [used | never used] in any project" is interesting. If you allow the media manager to build media relationships over time, then the media library has that data in it, but there isn't any way to express that as a search currently. We'll consider that for a future release. Thanks.

Subject:RE: More Media Manager machinations

Reply by: knowbody

Date:1/3/2005 5:08:34 PM

Thanks for all the replies. Lots of useful tips. Using Name in the advanced section seems to limit the search to a string within the name field. I don't think this is really searching for file names. For example, I have a file named 11. If I type 11 into the advaned name box it should only return files that are named exactly 11, not files with 11 in the name. I've tried searching with and without quotation marks but this makes no difference. In this case I get the same number of results. I want a function to allow me to search on exactly what I type and limit that to a particular field.

Chris