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Subject:Remove Vocal
Posted by: Joemmvc
Date:12/27/2004 5:55:32 PM

Has anyone know how to remove vocal from a song? please guide me.. Thank you much

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal
Reply by: MJhig
Date:12/27/2004 6:10:12 PM

Well there's;

Kelly's plugin

Or, click the FAQ above > # 6

Or, search the forum for "remove vocals/music".

MJ

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal
Reply by: drbam
Date:12/28/2004 5:57:19 AM

I knew we'd get at least one more of these before the year's end!

drbam

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:12/28/2004 6:38:06 AM

Yeah, well, remember, i wrote that plugin for Vegas 3. I haven't updated it for Vegas 5 yet.

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:12/28/2004 6:42:07 AM

One more post on "why?" SF adds silence to MP3 files should be near to top it all off.

You know, maybe for 2005 I'll dive into developing a vocal remover plugin that only removes the vocal. Obviously, from the number of questions that get posted in this forum alone on this subject, I will be a rich man by 2006 from the sales. Of course the majority of people asking this question probably have some pirated copy of SF anyways, and would only be searching the net to get a cracked copy of my plugin.

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal - Investors?
Reply by: pb
Date:12/30/2004 8:05:03 AM

Brian, surely you could collaborate with Sony to ensure your plug in cannot function witout an activation code, in the same fashion as Noise Reduction. Would you consider allowing your fellow forum members to invest some cash in your endeavour because that vocal-stripping plug in is going to be a winner: everyone will want it!

Peter
(-38 with windchill this morning when I dug out my driveway!)

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal - Investors?
Reply by: clyde2004
Date:12/30/2004 10:59:07 AM

Without re-reading all of the threads and at the risk of being repetitive.... I have found the PERFECT way to remove vocals!

1. Search the wave for the vocal start - click at this point and press m (marker)

2.Search the wave for the end of the vocal - click at this point and press m (marker)'

3. Double click somewhere between the two markers - (select the whole area between the markers).

4. Press the delete key

After extensive test I have found this to work 100% of the time. No need for fancy plug-ins or phase inversion etc.

CBG

PS If the resulting wave is missing some of the 'music' parts simply press control-z. This will restore the 'music' parts.

PPS If the restored part still has vocals in it - repeat step 4 above.

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal - Investors?
Reply by: MJhig
Date:12/30/2004 12:03:43 PM

Peter,

I'll write the code and I'm willing to take investors.

Investors, send your CC # to MJ@neverseemeagain.com.

MJ

Subject:RE: Remove Vocal - Investors?
Reply by: farss
Date:12/31/2004 4:21:20 AM

And all you guys reckon you know somehing about audio?
Well you don't need any fancy phase on its head stuff or plugins to do this. There's a few steps involved but once you've mastered the technique it works really well.
First you need to take your song and shoot some really cheesy video to go with it. Lots of shots of girl miming the song on a warf with wind blowing her hair. The you need to type the lyrics accross the bottom of the screen and add a bouncing ball. This bit is vital, otherwise the next step will not work, it provides the markers. If you check out the VASST site I'm sure some nice video guy has written a .veg or a script to do this.
Now you put the whole thing together into a VCD and play that in a $50 Made in China DVD player. Look under the Karaoke menu and select Remove Vocal. Record the output of the DVD player, job done. If you find you're loosing some of the music, I've found it's because you haven't got the ball bouncing properly, fix that and all will be well.
Bob.

Subject:www.vocaleliminator.com
Reply by: pb
Date:1/5/2005 5:52:17 PM

This is not a joke. Taken from page 78 of July 2004 Digital Videomaker:

"I Have the VE-4 Set Up In My Studio. I Tried It Last Night For The First Time. FANTASTIC! It's Better Than I Had Thought. I Used The First Type of VE In The Early 80's and Man It Has Improved So Much!
It Was Worth The Money.
D. Marsh CEO - Image Group Entertainment, Inc. "

For the record I state that I cannot comprehend how this device manages to strip away vocals but they can afford to advertise in Videomaker and (I think) Videography soooo....someone is buying the product.

Perhaps someone can buy this thing and report back to the rest of us on how well it works.

COPIED FROM THE WEBSITE INTRO PAGE:

No, all vocal removers are NOT ALIKE! We Invented the world's first Vocal EliminatorTM back in 1976. Even our early analog units outperform any alternatives! Far beyond every one else's simple L-R simple center channel elimination scheme the VE4 uses advanced and proprietary Digital Signal Processing (DSP) algorithms to remove more vocal with less loss of background instruments. We use two totally different methods to remove the voice. One of the methods actually reduces some (not all) of the reverberation that can remain on some recordings! We preserve almost all of the stereo content and do not go to mono the way a simple L-R scheme does.
You can actually create a simple L-R eliminator without any equipment! Just connect the Left Plus (L+) and Right Plus (R+) speaker outputs on your amplifier to a single speaker and the center channel will be removed! You can use the balance control to fine tune the voice if it is off center. We never considered this acceptable and even our early analog units in the 70's and 80's fine tuned both level as well as time delay offsets between the two channels to maximize high frequency elimination. We also went to great lengths to restore the Bass signal as well. No one else (as far as we know) has even gone as far as we did in the 70's ! !
Today, with DSP, it's a totally different world! Now we will be the first to admit that improvements are not linear! Don't expect that if you throw 100x the effort and expense at a problem, you are going to get 100x the result! In actuality, we probably throw more like about 1,000x the effort and about 1,000x the expense at the problem and just as importantly we have been doing it since 1976! What's that?? 28 Years!! We are the only company on the planet who's "Mission In Life" is removing vocals from recordings!
The proof is in the pudding! Listen to our demos..... and we will be happy to do demos of your recordings (excerpts - not whole songs) to show you exactly how well we work on your material !

LT Sound Sold Direct - Not Available Through Dealers!
Free Literature and Pricing Audio Demos More Info
24 Hour Phone Demo Line: (770)482-2485 (mp3 Web Demo Link Above)
Click on the Links at The Top To Explore Our Site And Find Out More Now!


Subject:RE: www.vocaleliminator.com
Reply by: MJhig
Date:1/5/2005 6:07:18 PM

Ya, somebody pointed out that link a year or so ago (which you don't). Are they rich and famous by now as they would be if it was viable? I don't think so but I'm willing to listen first hand.

Go a head and buy it and post back.

MJ

Subject:RE: www.vocaleliminator.com
Reply by: pb
Date:1/5/2005 9:35:48 PM

MJ: the link is in the subject box...

It may have been me who posted the link a year or so ago -- I still eagerly scan Digital Videomaker for bargains each month, though seldom actually read much of it (Videography and Film& Video are more relevant to my line of work).

As for the vocal eliminator actually removing vocals -- pshaw! Not in my lifetime. It is hard enough to eliminate wind noise; vocals would be well nigh impossible.

Peter

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