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Subject:Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Posted by: rmeuk
Date:11/29/2004 11:47:26 AM

What's the maximum outputs Acid 5 Pro can have in Rewire Device mode?

I see 4x stereo and 2x mono. But why do they have that irritating labeling for Surround?

Is there a way to change the labels? I don't work in surround.

Also can you increase the number of outputs? Or is this a ReWire 1.0 limitation?

Don't know why they didn't use 2.0. Ableton has 16 outputs and they are numbered from 1 to 16 except for the first pair which is called Master L/R.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: rmeuk
Date:11/29/2004 11:55:53 AM

Ok I found the information in another post.

You have to go to advanced in the audio prefs.

I looked through the whole user manual and could not find any information.

It's not mentioned in the Rewire chapters. Sony should put the info in there, because that's what every rewire needs first.

Is there any way I can hide the Surround outputs? They bug the hell out of me.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: rmeuk
Date:11/29/2004 12:15:24 PM

And now I've run into trouble!

The extra outputs don't get a signal in Cubase SX.

Here's what I did:

I activated a couple of extra stereo and mono outputs in the advanced prefs.

Restarted Cubase SX 3 and ACID.

Cubase shows the extra inputs. I activate them.

Route a track in ACID onto one of these outputs (busses).

The mixer in ACID shows a signal but nothing arrives in Cubase SX 3.

I tried other outputs. Only the default outputs work (Surround, Stereo A, Mono 1/2). Stereo B and above is dead. As is Mono 3 and upwards.

Any idea?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/29/2004 2:20:22 PM

ACID treats ReWire "ports" exactly the same way it treats multiple output ASIO drivers. If you have a 8 channel ASIO device you must route a Bus in ACID to the ports you want to stream audio to.

You have to route the bus in ACID to the desired "ReWire Port".

Example:

If you told ACID to create and use 4 additional Stereo ReWire ports. Cubase would see 4 stereo ports labled A, B, C, and D.

To send audio to say Port D from ACID, you would either set the master bus to Stereo Port D or you could add a Bus in ACID and then route it to Stereo Port D.

Peter





Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/29/2004 2:24:56 PM

ACID's ReWire driver can expose upto 26 additional stereo ports and 32 mono ports. You use the Advanced configuration dialog from the Audio prefs page in ACID to set this. Note after changing this you must restart ACID and the ReWire Host since ReWire does not define the ability to dynamically reallocate the number of available "ports".

We define Surround because we are a surround capable device. We chose to do it this way as it makes sense to what ACID the host is capable of. There is no way to relable the surround ports. Just don't use them if you don't want to, but you can treat them just like any other ReWire port as there is nothing "surround" about them other than the name.

ReWire 2.0 basically defines MIDI for ReWire and has nothing to do with the audio aspects. Since ACID does not expose MIDI ports for connection through ReWire, ACID is said to support ReWire 1.0 functionality. Internally we develope to the ReWire 2.0 spec, but only expose audio.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: rmeuk
Date:11/29/2004 2:29:30 PM

Thanks for your reply, Peter. Yes I now that I have to activate Busses in ACID and route these to the outputs (Rewire ports).

I narrowed the problem down.

Stereo B is not getting any signal in Cubase SX 3. There is no way.

Stereo A and all the others C,D... are working.

The mono busses are working, too.

Can anybody else confirm this problem?

I activated 8 extra stereo ports and 4 extra mono ports in ACID.

When I route to Stereo B there is a signal in ACID's mixer put nothing arriving in Cubase.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/29/2004 2:46:15 PM

I cannot repro this behavior. I can successfully route to any expose ReWire port and Cubase SX 2.2 recieves the audio signal.

???

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:11/29/2004 2:55:13 PM

rmeuk,

I can confirm. My Stereo Port B does get a visual signal from Acid but no audio pasts through in Nuendo 2.20. A port C, D, E...seem to work just fine.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: billybk
Date:11/29/2004 3:30:24 PM

Mmmm....it could be a Steinberg problem, because the Stereo B port works just fine, both visual and audio, in SONAR 4.01.

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/29/2004 6:58:19 PM

I cannot reproduce this with Nuendo 2.2 either.

What I did:

Started Nuendo 2.2.
New Project in Nuendo.
From Devices Menu, I selected ACID Pro 5.0. The ACID Pro 5.0 window appeared.
Enabled the Stereo Port B-L and Stereo Port B-R. All other exposed ACID ports are left disable in Nuendo.
Launch ACID
Inserted a bus in ACID.
I routed Bus A to "Stereo Port B".
I added a single Loop track in ACID.
Routed this track to Bus A.

I hit play. ACID played and I heard the output. Both ACID's Bus A meter and Nuendo's ACID Pro "track" showed meter activity.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 5 Rewire outputs (busses)
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:11/30/2004 5:23:33 AM

Peter,

It's all good here now. I tried your test and it worked fine with one, two or five stereo pairs exposed. I don't know what I saw during that first discovery but I will keep an eye on it.

VP

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