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Subject:Rewire Problems
Posted by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/9/2004 5:27:24 PM
i very excitedly jumped straight to cubase to test out acid 5 as a rewire slave... and was dissappointed to find only one stereo output!! ,, and , when the track is looped, there is an annoying click each time it goes to the start anyone else had this problem?? cheers |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/9/2004 5:31:39 PM
ACID ReWired exposed by default: Main Stereo Rear Stereo Center/LFE pair One stereo bus Two MONO buses You can configure ACID to expose upto 26 extra stereo buses and 32 mono ports when ReWired. We are looking at the clicking on looping. We have not yet been able to reproduce this problem here. If you could provide some specifics - audio hardware, ASIO driver buffer settings, etc, this would prove helpful. Thanks Peter |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/9/2004 5:40:41 PM
ok, well first off, i would like to know how you 'expose' these extra outputs! :} heres my setup AMD 2400+ with 512 MB DDR RAM [2700] i am using a sounblaster audigy with KX drivers witha latency of 10.33ms i tried using the rewire in Fruity Loops 4 and got jsu terrible distortion i am afraid i do not have another sequencer to try thanks for your help! |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/9/2004 5:59:07 PM
ok, well first off, i would like to know how you 'expose' these extra outputs! :} This information is covered in the online help in ACID, but for your enjoyment.... Connect ACID to Cubase. In ACID, got to Options | Preferences and select the Audio tab. The Audio Device type should be "ReWire Device Driver" Click the Advanced button You will be in the "Advanced Audio Configuration" The rest should be self explanatory and the context sensative help is waiting to provide you the details. Note that the more ports you ask ACID to expose when ReWired, the more horse power you will need on your box. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/9/2004 6:14:50 PM
haven't had mucj chance to read the manual yet!! :) one little thing i have noticed, i do not know if it is a bug... i set my audio driver to KX Asio, when i reboot the app it is re-setting to microsoft mapper or some-such... bummer thanks again for the rewire advice anyway |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/9/2004 7:13:15 PM
one little thing i have noticed, i do not know if it is a bug... i set my audio driver to KX Asio, when i reboot the app it is re-setting to microsoft mapper or some-such... bummer If you run ACID ReWired to another host app, the default device internally is set to the ReWire driver. If you then exit and restart ACID in non-ReWired mode, ACID can't use the ReWire driver and defaults to the Mapper. We are looking at a solution for this. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:11/9/2004 7:52:39 PM
Hello Peter, I am having some problems too. I tried to do Sonar 4 Producer to Acid 5 Pro, I first have Sonar setup for 5.1 surround WDM drivers, and I start Acid in Sonar and it has the correct busses but I can't preview loops in Acid, I get no meter activity and no sound. Should I use ASIO drivers or WDM in Sonar? I'm using a Delta 10/10 LT going into a 5.1 surround amp, then out to 5.1 speaker setup. I can use both Sonar and Acid seperately in 5.1 OK, but in rewire I get no output. Thanks, Rockitglider |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/9/2004 10:28:44 PM
I cannot reproduce this with SONAR 4.0.1. I have tested with both ASIO and WDM using a number of different hardware devices. (I don't have a 1010 installed, so I can't test that specific case.). Have you tried both? Is preview just not producing audio, or does normal playback also not produce sound? What is ACID's preview bus routed to? Does the ACID and SONAR main transports work? That is, if you hit play in SONAR, does ACID start to play (even if you can hear it.) If you start play from ACID, does SONAR's transport start? If not, I have seen a case where SONAR will not correctly connect to any ReWire device. The solution I found was to change the sample rate in SONAR and then restart SONAR. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:11/9/2004 11:18:08 PM
Hello Peter, I have no output from both preview and playback, and transport will not start in either program. The output for preview bus is front R/L, and yes I tried both drivers with no luck. I will try the sample rate fix, and post back. BTW, I am using Sonar 4.01 as well/ Thanks, Rockitglider |
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Subject:RE: Rewire Problems
Reply by: jardeano
Date:11/10/2004 1:13:09 AM
"We are looking at the clicking on looping. We have not yet been able to reproduce this problem here" That is an sx2 issue . I can reproduce it on this end. In sx3, the buzzing or clicking has been fixed, I've been finding acid re-wired in sx3 stable so far,As for the driver reverting back to the default driver in Acid ,,it's not really a problem for me if I'm assured stability. |
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Subject:Clicks at loop points in both SX3 and SX2 when ReWired here
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/10/2004 2:45:42 AM
Hi, My version of SX3 still produces clicks at the loop points when ReWired to ACID PRO 5 ( as I detailed in this post go there for details on how to reproduce the problem ). |
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Subject:RE: Clicks at loop points in both SX3 and SX2 when ReWired here
Reply by: jardeano
Date:11/10/2004 4:10:52 AM
I can't re-produce your problem .even when performing fast timeline changes in Sx3 along with looping measures. Sx3 has solved the re- wire issue,(for me) It's a rather old issue that many have experienced and many have reported the fix,(in Sx3) I can clearly re-produce the problem in sx2. Maybe the issue is with your sound devices drivers, or just one of those things. I do understand how you feel. |
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Subject:some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/10/2004 5:03:49 AM
Strange because it's perfectly reproducable on my system on playback, even rendering in SX3 produces a "pop" at the start of the loop region- I just did a test rendering a loop region in ACID PRO 5 comparing it with the same region in SX3. What seems to be happening is the file rendered with SX3 renders the first 780 samples from the ACID PRO 5 ReWire channels as silent or incorrect, thus producing the "pop" at the start of the loop. In comparison, the loop rendered with ACID PRO 5 does not have the problem at the beginning of the loop. Also, on the SX3/ACID PRO 5 ReWire playback problem, the pops/clicks occur on alternating loop playback iterations. That is, there is no pop the first time it loops, but there is on the second, not on the third, etc. EDIT: Or possibly, the pop comes from a different channel on each alternate loop, which is also strange. EDIT2: I just tried the DirectX driver within SX3 and the same pops/clicks occur as with the ASIO driver. |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 5:48:15 AM
this is a major bummer! the one feature i was SOoooo looking forward to was the rewire slave. and, if this problem is not fixed in SX 3 [if i can even afford to get that] then the whole thing is a waste of time... I only have fruity loops as an alternative, and , as i said in a previous posting, the rewire on this just distorts in an appalling way!... any one got any suggestions for cheap sequencer alternatives?? your unhappy shooper, marll |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/10/2004 7:54:03 AM
> any one got any suggestions for cheap sequencer alternatives?? Tracktion works fine with ACID Pro 5 as a ReWire slave. I picked up a copy on eBay at the TEC Awards Music and Sound Auction for only $24.99. There are still a few copies left. So does SONAR. I’m still using SONAR 2.2 XL and it works fine with ACID as a ReWrire slave. There are also copies of SONAR 3 going cheap on eBay as people upgrade to SONAR 4. SONAR and ACID is an awesome combination. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 9:19:53 AM
yes, i am looking into purchasing a copy of Traktion... It looks a bit basic, but has some very cool features... it's just a shame as I have invested a lot of time learning Cubase SX for the last year or two.. :( out of interest, which version of Traktion did you get? many thanks marll |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/10/2004 9:40:27 AM
> which version of Traktion did you get? I didn’t get my copy of Tracktion yet. I just won the auction two days ago and have been playing with the trial since then. I assume there is only one version to purchase (1.6). At $24.99 it is too good a deal to pass up. Just being able to punch-in/out while MIDI recording is worth the price for me. (my #1 feature that didn’t make it into ACID 5). :( The proceeds of the auction go to H.E.A.R. (Hearing Education and Awareness for Rockers) but the auction ends tomorrow so if you’re going to get a copy, now is the time to catch a great deal and help out H.E.A.R. at the same time. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 10:18:09 AM
do u have a link for this? I have done an ebay search for Traktion and cannot see any results... |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/10/2004 11:15:15 AM
It was in my previous post: TEC Awards Music and Sound Auction. They spelled Tracktion wrong that’s why you couldn’t find it. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 11:25:01 AM
thanyou very much for that. sorry i missed it in your previous post. all i need to do now is find someone who has an eBay account and I am laughing!! regards marll |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 11:32:49 AM
just a quick update on the rewire problem. i got to try it out on Traktion today, and i get the SAME problem, ie a click/pop at the start of the loop.. i have tried a variety of things to alleviate it, but no joy... I am gutted.... :( |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/10/2004 1:26:57 PM
I tried it with Tracktion before I recommended it and there are no clicks or pops on my laptop which is a skimpy 1.8Ghz with 512MB memory using the built-in onboard sound. (it’s a business PC not my audio PC) Do you think maybe your audio buffers are set too small? ~jr |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 2:21:30 PM
i think maybe they are... how do i 'adjust them'? I am running an audigy with KX drivers... perhaps thats part of the problem i may have already pointed out that i have even tried running acid inside Fruity Loops 4 and it sounds TERRIBLE! the gods are surely havin a laugh at my expense...... |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: jardeano
Date:11/10/2004 3:07:20 PM
"I am running an audigy with KX drivers... perhaps thats part of the problem" just a guess but I would say "bingo" can you afford a new sound device ? you might want to look into that, |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/10/2004 4:12:59 PM
I must admit that running an Audigy with KX drivers is definitely risky at best. I have never used the KX drivers and from what I’ve read they are a bit overwhelming to configure. When you select the KX driver under Options > Preferences > Audio. Is the Advanced button available. If so, I would press it and start from there. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 5:25:10 PM
actually, i must whole-heartedly recommend the KX drivers for anyone running a creative card. and yes, they are quite hard to master... i am buying an m-audio delta card in next few days... i will let you know how i get on... |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: pwppch
Date:11/10/2004 6:34:14 PM
Why don't you use the ASIO drivers that Creative provides for the Audigy? Peter |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/10/2004 8:28:52 PM
because they are rubbish! seriously, they are not good... plus, you cannot work with any sample rate below 48khz... my main gripe about this card is it generates a lot of noise when recording or mutlitracking... everything always sounds more muted also... like there is some kind of volume cap on them.. i dunno.. don't get me started on the subject.. i am changing cards and that;s that!! |
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Subject:Audigy and REWIRE
Reply by: Audiofile
Date:11/11/2004 10:07:30 AM
I switched to the ASIO4ALL drivers and that seems to have solved the problem of audio quality when linking (REWIRING) ACID PRO 5 to LIVE 4 (using the Audigy II audio card). The latency with the normal Asio drivers was too slow. |
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Subject:RE: Audigy and REWIRE
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/11/2004 10:17:24 AM
i am not aware of these drivers.. thanks for the recommend. I will try them out for sure :) thx |
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Subject:RE: Audigy and REWIRE
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/11/2004 11:21:08 AM
WOW, I just installed ASIO4ALL on my laptop (which only has the crummy build-in motherboard sound chip) and now I can play my VSTi’s with low latency. This is outstanding! Thanks for the tip. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: Audigy and REWIRE
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/11/2004 11:55:13 AM
actually, it has made no difference to me... damn this bloody stuff... i remember once, a long time ago I actually used to make music... heady days |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: stuffedspacedog
Date:11/11/2004 9:13:46 PM
I'm running Cubase SX 3 with AP4 as a rewire slave - it works perfectly. I'm running a P4 2.2Ghz, 1Mb RAM, XP SP2 with RME Hammerfall DSP sound card. The RME is unbelievably stable - I'd highly recommend it if you're planning to switch sound cards. |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: ATP
Date:11/11/2004 11:58:04 PM
---------------- The RME is unbelievably stable ---------------- that it is indeed, and it's also unbelievably expensive. that's like recommending a Ferrari to someone who wants to upgrade his 1985 Yugo. :) |
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Subject:RE: some more clues on the SX3 problem
Reply by: stuffedspacedog
Date:11/12/2004 3:44:51 AM
Maybe, but they also do a budget version now which is also highly rated... so you can buy something almost as good as a Ferrari for the price of a Yugo with halogen headlamps and a hula girl to go on the dash. |
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Subject:I've tried two sound cards and still get pops/clicks
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/12/2004 4:32:25 AM
Hi stuffedspacedog, "I'm running Cubase SX 3 with AP4 as a rewire slave - it works perfectly. I'm running a P4 2.2Ghz, 1Mb RAM" I think you mean "AP5" not "AP4" and also "1GB RAM" not "1Mb RAM" ;) but an RME card would be nice. The problem I am having is specifically at the start of the loop point. My soundcard "MARIAN MARC 2" has native ASIO drivers and works with all my audio applications, including when using FLStudio as a ReWire slave to SX3, why should adding one particular ReWire slave require a different audio card? (Also, FLStudio uses more ReWire features like routing MIDI channels between FLStudio and SX3). I have also tried the on board nVidia ASIO drivers with exactly the same problem, which leads me to believe the problem is either with SX3 or ACID PRO 5. |
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Subject:Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/12/2004 6:09:54 AM
SX3 may be causing the loop point problems when ReWired, because FLStudio (in song mode) seems to be missing the first note when ReWired to SX3 and using the SX3 transport buttons. FLStudio also provides another clue as the FLStudio "hint bar" at the top says "Resynchronizing to 001:01:002" (instead of the exact start) when restarting the loop which could explain why SX3 is missing the first segment of the audio coming from ACID PRO 5 when looping. I also noticed that if I lower the ASIO buffer size in SX3 from 800 to 200 samples the pops/clicks become less frequent (every other loop or so). Hopefully this will help pinpoint the problem. |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/12/2004 10:22:49 AM
first off, 'stuffedspacedog'.. Arghhhh.. i wendt and bught an M-Audio 2496 card today. No Hammerfall for me. And , the problem with the loop clicks and pops continued until yesterday, I persuaded my friend who runs Sonar to install A5 and , guess what?? It runs smooth as! How come? Well, I can only guess Rewire problems stem from the host program, not the soundcard as such. I tried ASIO4All last night, no joy. ANd Fruity Loops still comes out awfully distorted [Has anyone else had THAT problem??]. As i cannot afford Sonar, I am now stuck, although I have yet to install my audiophile card... :( marll |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/12/2004 12:31:37 PM
> As i cannot afford Sonar, Don’t be so sure. Now that people are upgrading to SONAR 4, there are lots of copies of SONAR 3 on eBay for less than $100. I picked up a copy of SONAR 2.2 XL for $59 on eBay not too long ago. You cannot register these versions if they have already been registered because Cakewalk has a strict policy of not transferring registrations (I guess they don’t like new customers who can’t afford the full price of their products) but the software works just the same. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/13/2004 7:42:50 AM
"And , the problem with the loop clicks and pops continued until yesterday, I persuaded my friend who runs Sonar to install A5 and , guess what?? It runs smooth as!" Yes, it also runs smoothly when using FLStudio (4.5.2 demo version) as ReWire mixer application here. It just appears to be SX3/SX2. I have started a thread at cubase.net for people with this problem in SX. |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/14/2004 4:40:56 AM
As i have mentioned a couple of times already, rewiring Acid 5 absolutely does NOT run smoothly... It is distorted and misses more off the loop than Cubase which is a mild glitch in comparison. There seems to be no solution to these ills except to forget about using a loop in cubase when recording a track. That's how I will have to proceed from now on. No big deal I suppose and perhaps it will motivate me to create more thoughtfully constructed pieces. It's still a major dissappointment though, and the way the driver resets in Acid is a pain as well... Maybe it's time to go back to a Cubase/Reason setup. That always worked flawlessly... |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/14/2004 5:14:02 AM
No problems with FLStudio as ReWire master here. Which version are you using? (I am only using the 4.5.2 demo version) Which driver are you using within FLStudio? Did you do the normal add one ReWired -- client:ACID PRO 5 -- SHOW PANEL ? Did you ensure the tempo in FLStudio is close to the original audio tempo in ACID PRO 5? "There seems to be no solution to these ills except to forget about using a loop in cubase when recording a track" Someone on cubase.net says it is running smoothly but they have their ASIO buffer size set to 64 which is not possible unless I buy new hardware... Unfortunately, I don't think I would be able to get much from a Cubase/ACID PRO 5 combination without using looping. |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: billybk
Date:11/14/2004 6:35:56 AM
I've been using SONAR 4.01 as the rewire host/mixer and ACID Pro 5 as the rewire slave with no problems or issues. In fact, I would have to say it makes a terrific combo. Rewire in SONAR has always been pretty solid so that does not surprise me. Nice to be able to use ACID, as an instrument, inside SONAR now though. |
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Subject:RE: Yet another clue on the SX3 ReWire problem
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:11/14/2004 6:56:40 AM
I’m using SONAR 2.2 XL to ReWire ACID Pro 5.0 and there are no problems to report. Everything runs smoothly. I can also ReWire ACID in Tracktion without any problems. It seems like the problem is with Cubase. Perhaps Propellerheads has written some “compensation code” to make Reason work with Cubase because a lot of their customers complained. It doesn’t mean its ACID’s problem. It just means that Cubase has not implemented the ReWire protocol correctly. You should be asking Steinberg why they don’t work with ACID Pro 5.0 when SONAR and Tracktion (an $89 program) work flawlessly. ~jr |
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Subject:already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/14/2004 7:31:55 AM
"You should be asking Steinberg why..." Thanks (I don't want to use SONAR or Tracktion), I have already reported the issue on Cubase.net as I said in a previous post. I have already said that ACID PRO 5 works in the FLStudio demo on my system,and I also already said "SX3 may be causing the loop point problems when ReWired, because FLStudio (in song mode) seems to be missing the first note when ReWired to SX3". However, I don't have the source code for ACID PRO 5 and SX3 or the ReWire SDK or any ReWire diagnostic application, so I don't know which application is at fault, I'm just reporting what appears to be a bug. Some users have claimed that SX3 works fine with ACID PRO 5 so it is entirely possible that there is a conflict in ReWire versions (ReWire.dll conflicts or similar), perhaps one application installation overwrites the ReWire.dll file, or possibly that some ASIO driver behaviour in SX3 creates a problem with ReWire synth applications, I don't know the cause until a developer or Sony/Steinberg representative says what the problem is. Thanks. |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/14/2004 10:03:04 AM
just in response to 'Johnny Roy', I have tried rewireing using Traktion and i am still suffering the clicks and pop issues. it seems to me that general consensus favours Sonar so I am going to try and get a hold of that before i do anything else... PS!! AT LAST! I have a rewire slave setup without clicks and pops.. i installed an old version of FLStudio and it seems to work very nicely now.. ONLY THING IS, how the hell to you 'split the channels' in FLStudio.. At the moment I can only output everything through a stereo channel although i have set up multiple busses inside ACid??? Please someone help me on this and I am THERE>>>> >!!!! |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/14/2004 12:22:15 PM
ok, i sort of figured out the answer to my own question. another thing, i have discovered that if i leave the audio settings on 'Primary Sound Driver', everything DOES NOT distort. However, now I have terrible latency problems which I cannot really put up with either... Which only leaves me to conclude that all the problems are caused by the ASIO drivers??? deary me i think i am getting nowhere fast here... |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/17/2004 6:59:41 PM
"i think i am getting nowhere fast here..." Sounds familiar. I've tried cubase.net (with no response from moderators), MARIAN support who said the card drivers are not related to ReWIre, and this forum, I've now seen a number of users reporting similar problems with SX3 and ReWire. |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/17/2004 7:33:06 PM
oh dear.. that is very dispiriting. i have also now tried: new soundcard... another 512 meg of ddr ram.... so, i guess that's that... i have thought about it today, and it's not the end of the world I suppose. it just puzzles me that after having seen so many complaints about rewire, particularly with SX, still nothing is being done to improve matters. ... there must be someone out there who can at least say why this problem exists... |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: coldc
Date:11/23/2004 7:41:46 AM
I got another email from Marian support saying it can't possibly be the drivers and it must be SX3. Looks like everything is pointing towards SX but there is no way of knowing as there is no support from Steinberg. |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: Lionel Richtea
Date:11/23/2004 8:39:45 AM
Well, I should say, I have just upgraded my system which now includes an Audiophile 2496 which sounds great, BUT, I am still suffering Rewire problems in nearly ever app i try. The only one that is remotely usable to me is Sonar for some reason. Which is cool, and I am now working on Acid projects in that, means learning a whole new app, but hey-ho... such is life eh? Currently, Cubase is playing back, but full of clicks and pops... Orion and FLstudio are always distorted, unless I use the default 'Primary Sound Driver' which is then rendered unusable by the massive latency i have to put up with. The rewire is never in time this way, so I cannot use it. It seems to me that Cubase SX could be the problem, but then why are there problems Rewiring with these other apps? |
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Subject:RE: already reported it on Cubase.net
Reply by: billybk
Date:11/23/2004 9:26:24 AM
FYI, there is an excellent (4) part guide on using rewire, by Cakewalk: http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/April03_AndertonPt1.asp It's about a year and half old, but is still relevant today. It references SONAR 2.2 and Home Studio 2004, being that SONAR has had an excellent rewire implementation, for several years now. In fact, the developer's from Propellerhead Software ( rewire's creators), even praised SONAR for having one of the best rewire implementations, in the business. It has always worked seamlessly with Reason, so that should tell you something. You mentioned ACID Pro 5 being only "remotely usable", in SONAR 4, what problems are you having? I have found that S4 & A5 work very well together, not unlike using Reason. Anyway, check out the article, it really explains what you can and can't do with rewire and in part 2, there is a section on testing rewire to make sure that it is working properly. You can just substitute ACID 5, for Reason/Project 5, in the SONAR example. |