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Subject:Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Posted by: Grundman
Date:11/15/2004 10:47:50 PM

According to the following thread available at http://www.musicplayer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=021926;p=

it seems to be that Microsoft has used a cracked release of SoundForge 4.5 to release some wav file of Windows Media Player. Here is the proof

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File : c:\WINDOWS\Help\Tours\WindowsMediaPlayer\Audio\Wav
\WMPAUD1.WAV
Length : 354468
RIFF : 354460
WAVE
fmt : 50
Format : 0x2 => WAVE_FORMAT_MS_ADPCM
Channels : 2
Sample Rate : 22050
Block Align : 1024
Bit Width : 4
Bytes/sec : 22311
Extra Bytes : 32
Samples/Block : 1012
No. of Coeffs : 7
Index Coeffs1 Coeffs2
0 256 0
1 512 -256
2 0 0
3 192 64
4 240 0
5 460 -208
6 392 -232
fact : 4
frames : 349439
data : 354304
LIST : 66
INFO
ICRD : 2000-04-06
IENG : Deepz0ne
ISFT : Sound Forge 4.5
End
bpred idelta
(1, 1) (16, 16)
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Sample Rate : 22050
Frames : 350152
Channels : 2
Format : 0x00010013
Sections : 1
Seekable : TRUE
Duration : 00:00:15.879
Signal Max : 21848 (-3.52 dB)

Sound Forge saves the name of the registered user to the IENG ('Engineer') field, which means ...
Microsoft used Radium's distro of Sound Forge 4.5!!! And shipped the proof with Windows.
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Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: mpd
Date:11/16/2004 5:42:27 AM

I think the more likely explanation is that Microsoft paid a freelancer for some sounds, and the freelancer used a pirated copy of SF4.5.

Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:11/16/2004 6:37:51 AM

How do you view that information of a Wav file?

Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: Sonic
Date:11/16/2004 7:31:39 AM

Any hex editor if you are RIFF savvy. Daubnet RIFFview saves you the effort of parsing it in your head. It's freeware and should be easy to find on the web.

It is just the IENG summary chunk as noted. There was a thread on slashdot among other places last week.

As noted above, it is circumstantial and doesn't really prove any wrongdoing by MS. All it shows is that "DeepzOne" was the 'licensee' name when the file was created in SF 4.5.

J.

Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: Grundman
Date:11/17/2004 6:14:47 AM

Is very easy to view. Open the file in SoundForge and in the menu File, select Properties. Check the tab Summary and the Extended button if needed.

Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: MarkWWW
Date:11/17/2004 1:49:27 PM

Even more surprising is that some of the sounds that have recently been available at the Acid Get Media site seem also to have been created/edited using a Deepz0ne pirated version of SF4.5.

If anyone has been collecting the loops from Shockwave-Sound they might like to have a look at the loops called "river adventure loop 1-6" and you'll see they also have the Deepz0ne identification.

Mark

Subject:RE: Microsoft used a cracked version od SoundForge for Windows!!??
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:11/17/2004 1:57:40 PM

Maybe DeepZone worked for Sonic Foundry.

Hey, it's the new conspiracy theory! ;)

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