DVD9 size projects can be built in DVA2 they just have to be burned from an outside source like Nero. You will have to ignore the warnings you receive from DVDA2 regarding your exceeding the project size.

DVD9 size projects can be built in DVA2 they just have to be burned from an outside source like Nero.

Have you actually done this? I've heard several people say that this is what you do, but have not heard anyone actually say that they did it.

Do you have to do anything in Nero to set / indicate where the layer break should be?

Rob

Rob I don't have a dual layer burner so I can't burn. I have though created a mock up in DVDA. In one of the posts there was actually a link to explain Nero and how it handles the layer break. I will look for us both.

Here ya go Rob, hope this helps.

http://www.nero.com/us/632164078246694.html

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=22&MessageID=313711

Thanks, folks. My VV5/DVD2 upgrade is in the mail to me now. As soon as I get it installed, I'll report back with the results. And thanks for the link, anemain.
-Don

Hm. Thanks.

But Express says himself in his posts that he hasn't actually burned a dual-layer disc yet. And although he says he's "read of others success when using Nero to burn DL (on other forum's)," he doesn't say what DVD authoring app they used.

I don't dispute that Nero can burn DL discs. What I'm still confused about is whether or not the resulting disc will play properly if the DVD authoring app is not DL-aware.

Rob

Why isn't dual layer burning supported in DVDA 2?

Why can't a update be issued?

Rob, I don't know the exact specs for an authoring pgm in regards to DL creation. If I was to take a guess the biggest and foremost hurdle would be burning it. I also think the authoring software would maybe at most organize the content and create the second layer transition along with altering links I suppose to go to the second layer and back, its all just a big guess. That being said I think it would be most prudent to do this at burn time. Taking all this into account I would imagine the burning aspect of any DL authoring program would be the most effected by DL support, which Nero can handle well. Of course The authoring software would also have to make some superficial changes to disc usage warnings and so on. So.. if I was forced to gamble I would bet maybe say 70% that our untested theory would work.

Really, the color of the disc usage bar isn't on my care list.

I am with ya 100%, nobody so far on "this" forum has ACTUALLY done it. The first person to confirm this will be the Hero. :-)

In regards to the other post:

""Why isn't dual layer burning supported in DVDA 2? Why can't a update be issued?""

My opinion only: DL would be a great selling feature for DVDA3 so why release it now.
Hence why you get this message from Sony everytime it is brought up:

"Dual layer burning is not in DVDA 2."

Can't blame them though, it is after all there buisness.

I regard it as a good thing when the Sony guys reply in these threads.

"Dual layer burning is not in DVDA 2."

Without any explanation.

The burning community has been raving about dual layer burning for a year now. And the first DL burners(I know of) appeared early this year. Plextor is the last of the bunch, just released the PX-716A. V5+DVDa2 was released in late March this year. Nero6 is about a year old now.

What I'm saying is that this should not be a marketing carrot for DVD-A 3 but a uppgrade to DVDA2. This can't be a major rewriting process to the program. Maybe they will be so kind to open an uppgrade window like they did last May.

Well, I just did the test using DVDA2, Nero 6, and my new Sony DL burner.

The resulting 7.1 GB disc works perfectly in my PC, but not my old Panasonic standalone deck--which doesn't prove there's a problem with the authoring necessarily, when it could be an issue of the player's compatibility with DL +R in general. I'll have to try it on another deck to be sure.

I haven't managed to find where Nero placed the layer transition yet, so I don't know how smoothly it runs, but I'll keep hunting. I had hoped to avoid watching too much of this show again, but sacrifices must be made for science.

" Well, I just did the test using DVDA2, Nero 6, and my new Sony DL burner."
"The resulting 7.1 GB disc works perfectly in my PC"

RIGHT ON!!!

So we have proof now, kinda. Testing on other decks will help, but working on your pc is for sure a start. If it didnt work there we would be nowhere.

How doesn't it work in your player? If the player refuses to even try to play it, it's probably because of the book type that was written.

A number of the new DL players hitting the market will let you set the book type for +R DL to DVD-ROM, which should allow any player to read it. As I recall though, the Sony DL burner will not let you do this.

--Scott

Just out of interest - what's the attraction of Dual Layer?

Is it just to get more on a disc?

for me yep.

Hmm, I'll have to check on this; I seem to recall seeing that option somewhere.

My Panasonic freezes up shortly after recognizing that the disc is a DVD; it just says "reading" but the only way to stop it is to turn off the power.

I've got an older Pioneer deck somewhere (my worst-case scenario test unit--if a disc plays on it, it'll play anywhere), but I'm in the middle of moving so it'll take a while for me to be able to get to it.

The symptoms you describe sound like a booktype issue. I've got a player with similar behavior with +R media - just freezes up and I have to power cycle the player. Writing the +R media with a booktype of DVD-ROM worked fine for this player though.