"DAW's shouldn't be online anyway IMO."

uh oh.

"DAW's shouldn't be online anyway IMO."

I have to agree with that as a rule - that's the reason why I just got through fdisking and resetting up my box. But I'm curious - if you keep your DAW off line, what do you do when you need updates, upgrades, etc.? I've done a few free plugin downloads on my family pc, then loaded them in my DAW from a disc. But if, for instance, you want to upgrade any of your programs, what do you??

>>But if, for instance, you want to upgrade any of your programs, what do you??<<

I generally do the same thing. Download to another machine–copy and load from a disc. However, to be clear, my DAW does have a high speed internet connection which is physically disconnected 99.999% of the time. The router has a firewall and my cable ISP has much better virus protection than I could possibly stay current with myself. No virus has ever gotten through to the 3 other machines that are online 24 hrs a day. But to be safe, I connect the DAW only when I am registering software directly from it and then immediately disconnect it. I know there are others that would say even this is risky, but its a very small one that I'm willing to take for the registering/authorizing processes.

drbam

As others have stated, Internet bad for DAW, BUT We also do as drbam has described. We've got Cable modem, router, hardware firewall and when updates need to be done plug in, then unplug.

Knock on wood.....we also stay current backing up projects to DVD/CD AND removable FW drives just to be safe.

-jb

In a moment of weakness I downloaded and installed SP2 the other day.
Result - couldn't open browser or several other apps.

Initially couldn't even open System Restore to turn back the clock, but a couple of reboots later managed to open SR, put it back to pre SP2 and get on with life.

In a Win 98SE setup, (in respect to on line/off line security) couldn't I simply go to my device manager and disable my wireless cable device? Studio upstairs, wife and her always-on pc downstairs, and that's where the main wireless hub is.

>> couldn't I simply go to my device manager and disable my wireless cable device? <<

Perhaps and it may be fine. However, I personally would feel safer making sure the *hardware* connection was disabled (unplugged). Then I can be certain that nothing can get through.

drbam

(It won't help and possibly could cause some problems (it definitely has created problems for some). SP2 addresses Windows security issues and will do nothing to enhance the functioning of any DAW app. )
I did not know that. What is the ideal suggestion with xp? No service pack at all? What do you suggest for the best vegas 5 preformance?Thanks

>>What is the ideal suggestion with xp? No service pack at all? What do you suggest for the best vegas 5 preformance?Thanks<<

I'm using SP1 (it came with my XP install disc) and have not experienced any problems with it. As far as I can determine from various forum posts, most XP DAWs are also using SP1. However, as noted earlier, there have been some issues with SP2. My system is solid and there's absolutely no need for me to install it unless I obtained an app that required it (which I suppose is in some realm of possibility).

drbam

I experienced the infamous splash screen bug when I installed SP2. (That is the one where you can launch Vegas once and quite with no problems. But the second time you try to launch it in the same Windows session, the Flash Screen appears and you can never get into Vegas or beyond the splash screen. I uninstalled SP2 and the problem disappeared. I am not going to install SP2 until Sony fixes this bug.

Regards,

"I experienced the infamous splash screen bug when I installed SP2"

What do you mean? Splash screen or flashscreen? Anyway, I have sp2 installed and I haven't noticed any new problems. Only thing I know is before 5.0b my system would crash whenever I zoomed in and now with 5.0b it didn't actually fix the prob. just made it happen alot less.Hopefully 5.0c fixes it all together.

Sure

I have one machine running SP1 and another that runs SP2 (it's the newer of the two machines). Machine 2 I carry around with me to do live recording. I'm away a week at a time - and use that same machine to connect to the internet when I'm away. So far, I've experienced absolutely no problems.

I can't say for sure, of course, but, I would guess that a clean install of XP followed by an immediate update to SP2 would probably not cause problems on most machines (that's how I set up machine #2).

My older machine is more prone (but not obssessively so) to anamolies. It started life as a Win98SE machine, then was dual and eventually tripple booted (one instance of 98, two of XP Pro).

Through my own carelessness, it did get infected with virus and adware, and after the fact cleanup cleared up most problems, but wasn't 100% effective.

For now, since I must use the net from both machines, I avoid IE unless absolutely necessary, keep all my AV software definitiions up to date, and try to be very careful about where I go and what I download from the net.

So far, no problems.

I've also configured the newer machine for easy wipe/reinstall of the OS in the event of a problem.

Just my thouhts on the subject.

Caruso

Oh Rats...
Had several problems with my SoundForge 7.0b as per posts in that forum since installing SP2 and today my Vegas 4 is wacko! Today when I went to capture some new video I kept getting an error about one of my drives not 'saving' right although I had done nothing new and everything was fine yesterday. "$Mft" file was messed up according to the warning.

Since I wasn't trying to capture to that drive I thought I could just proceed to drop the data into another drive. No Way! it just refused to capture.....that's new....
I rebooted and the error report went away although the capture went to the drive that was supposedly having the problem even though I went in and specified before capturing that I wanted it to go to another drive. My computer seems to have a mind of its own! All this is new since installing SP2......
Oh joy.......this is progress?????
Teaktart

The recommendation by the MVP's over on the Microsoft XP forum is to immediately reboot 3 even 4 times after the SP2 installation. Apparently changes are still being made at startup that requires these 3 or 4 reboots.

MJ

Thanks....
Like most we do our upgrades on an isolated computer!
sparrow

so true, but sad!
sparrow

thanks for the feedback...seems we should leave SP2 alone, since I am still
having capture and external video preview problems with XP-Service
pack 1, Vegas 5.0b and SF 7....I might re-install Vegas 5 without the upgrade
and see if life retruns to "normal", or perhaps go back to Windows 98 VS 2!

sparrow

Why don't they spend more time (Microsoft) on these things before they
past they out the public! We will wait a bit with SP-2, perhaps write some
poetry, or play acoustic piano (this requires no upgrades from earth!)

sparrow..thanks for the info!

Both PCs were having system troubles thanks to perhaps Diskeeper or a RAM recovery utility. Endless lock ups. As I have lost lost both my XP Pro and XP Home CDs and I installed SP2 out of desperation (SP1 wouldn't go in becasue it was already there, according to Windows Set Up.) Even worse. Vegas couldn't see my DVCAM deck and Premiere Pro 1.5 froze continually. Called Adobe and was told that I'd have to reformat the drive of the PC running the Matrox 100 Pro and re-install XP SP1. So that's my limited experience with SP2. BTW: doing a system restore to an earlier set point will not eradicate SP2.

Peter

Have you tried to just reinstall the Vegas after the SP2?

I ended up with all kinds of weird behavior especially when using video FX and I finally gave up and reinstalled with original disc and then went to Sony website to get latest update and hurray! its all working right again.

I spent way too much time trying to figure/work out the problems instead of just reinstalling which took a matter of minutes and got it all back to normal.

Hope that might help your situation as well, can't hurt to try before dumping the SP2 altogether.

Good Luck,
Teaktart