Completely killing windows and other software sounds

bgc wrote on 9/25/2004, 9:40 AM

I had a Linksys wireless network driver that did a similar thing - really loud "swoosh!" and "zap!" noises when it did things. No way to turn them off (asked tech support), but luckily they were wave files in the Programs directory. I turned them into silent waves and now, no more problems.

Have you checked for wave files in the Program directories? If you can find the program that's making the noise but there are no external sound files there may be a program setting that you could alter using RegEdit.

Not much help, but some ideas for you.
B.

VegUser wrote on 9/27/2004, 9:38 AM

>>>but luckily they were wave files in the Programs directory. I turned them into silent waves and now, no more problems
<<<<<<

Sorrry, but that is ridiculous. In terms of DAW usage you fixed nothing.
You may have solved the actual annoying sounds..but you are not stopping them from playing (which could cause a hiccup/ruin a recording...silence in sound or not).

If you don't care or use this system as your DAW, then nevermind.

The answer is to uncheck any sound events (or any notification events) within each interface/app of hardware in question if the sound scheme isn't effective. If you cannot change these sound events...then I would say that piece of hardware goes back for refund...with a quickness.

JD

Youn wrote on 9/27/2004, 11:38 AM

They could go as far as to write the sound in the software itself, so you can't have access to it in any means. Other then, of course, getting rid of said software. I use Ad-Aware (free) to get rid of spy-ware and things like that, and my main DAW has no internet or network capabilities at all because of potential annoyances.

bgc wrote on 9/27/2004, 11:50 AM

Wow, JD, if that's not a reply meant to bait me, I don't know what is! :0

Yes, it's a DAW. And no, there were no readily available controls to turn off the sounds (even hidden in the program's resources).

The wireless hub works great for me, except for the occasional REALLY LOUD sounds that it would make when I opened the system tray tool to check on the signal strength - and forgot to turn down the volume on my console.

So while the solution, and quite probably myself included, may in fact be "ridiculous" it's working quite well for me.

Cheers,
B.

PipelineAudio wrote on 9/27/2004, 12:10 PM

My problem is that when it tries to play the sound, it will try and switch the sample rate, event though my card is chasing a Lucid Genx6 word clock! I have to find these sounds and kill them, or find these apps that are making the sounds and kill them. This also happens on a fresh install.

bgc wrote on 9/27/2004, 1:28 PM

Maybe you can use the Windows Task Manager to look at active processes and then systematically kill them off, narrowing down the culprit(s).

farss wrote on 9/27/2004, 2:07 PM

Pipe,
glad to see someone else noticed this problem. I only have a lowly M-Audio 410 but this is a major annoyance. Just the usual Windows Bings and Bongs requires the unit to switch something, probably sample rate, which takes about 1 second so you mostly don't get to hear the Bong but then when I play out audio from the Vegas TL again there's another 1 second lost as the unit again switches sample rate. Very annoying.

Bob.

VegUser wrote on 9/27/2004, 4:59 PM

No...nope. No bait meant there. Just reminding you that its your right to return a product exhibiting these problems). I bet they won't hassle you a bit on a return either once you explain the circumstances.
They'd msot likely swap for another.

But imo, It is ridiculous keeping it on a daw.

bgc wrote on 9/27/2004, 9:18 PM

Call me ridiculous then ;)

VegUser wrote on 9/28/2004, 12:09 AM

i did

Youn wrote on 9/28/2004, 8:00 AM

Bob, do yourself a favour and turn off those 'usual' windows sounds!!

Click: Start > Settings > Control Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices. Then click the Sounds tab and choose ""No Sounds" from the Sound Scheme pull down menu.

Done, those sounds shouldn't bother you anymore. If you still hear sounds then it means you have other programs triggering them. If you have onboard sound device, you could choose that device for the default (under the Audio tab of the same window) and any 'wild' sounds played will just go to that device without disrupting your maudio. Doing this has worked for me in the past where I've had to have two different devices working at the same time (onboard plus a PCI card) so it may work for you.

tmrpro wrote on 9/28/2004, 9:22 AM

Adding programs to your DAW that have "bings & bongs" is ridiculous.

If you are going to play games on your DAW, then it is not a DAW.

If you are going to use MS office on your DAW, then it is not a DAW.

If you are going to play on the internet with your DAW, then it is not a DAW.

That being said, I never have this problem with my DAW... never...

The only time my DAW ever goes on the internet is behind a router based Firewall and specifically for the purpose of updating the OS.

When It's done, the physical connection (J45) is removed and the ethernet in the DAW is disabled in device manager.

The only programs in my DAW are professional audio & video applications.

If you do not stick to the simple rule of what programs you allow to live in your DAW, then you will not only have the annoying "bings & bongs" but you will also have the elements that control them, running in the background and interfering with your systems ability to focus its resources for one purpose:

...Which is running the Digital Audio Application that you are using at that moment in your computer.

Youn wrote on 9/28/2004, 12:12 PM

tmrpro, passing gas are we?
j/k :)
Still, the fact remains, most users are using Vegas in something other then the traditional "DAW" - and we weren't initial using that term until VegUser started going on the way he did (and now you do). So what you say doesn't help solve the problem now does it? It just states the obvious now. I find it ridiculous that you find the need to EVER hook up you DAW to the internet, what with the invention of portable storage media and all that, but then that's just me being a smart ass.
kind regards, and really no harm meant by any of this...

drbam wrote on 9/28/2004, 1:21 PM

>>Still, the fact remains, most users are using Vegas in something other then the traditional "DAW"<<

Really? I had not heard this before. Please cite your source for this "fact" or clarify if this is speculation on your part.

Thanks,

drbam

Youn wrote on 9/28/2004, 2:17 PM

I was responding to the previous poster and his description of a DAW (which is truer to the original conception of the term btw) obviously you can have a personal computer full of crap and call it a "DAW" all you want - though, IMHO, it really should be called DAPC at that point so we don't get confused about whether or not it'll behave like it should

anyways, best wishes...

VegUser wrote on 9/28/2004, 3:55 PM

what's Youn been smoking? Did I "go on"???

<<Still, the fact remains, most users are using Vegas in something other then the traditional "DAW">>>

"the fact remains"...(hahaha, that's rich Youn)
Yeah guys...you know what he's saying...the "traditional DAW". The "old fashioned" usage of Vegas (lol).
Last I checked it's still an A/V app, so It's safe to assume you havn't a clue as to the definition of a DAW. What are YOU doing with Vegas? Wordprocessing? Using the box for balancing a tableleg?

You DO realize there's freeware out there if you're just editing/converting. You realize you didn't have to purchase anything from SF/Sony to come here and chat all friggin day...right?

tmrpro wrote on 9/28/2004, 4:58 PM

Youn Said:
Still, the fact remains, most users are using Vegas in something other then the traditional "DAW"

A little lesson in abbreviated terms:

By virtue of the fact that we are in the Vegas - Audio forum, we are talking about Vegas, The Digital Audio Application. If you have a professional level sound card for the purpose of recording (which my dear friend Pipe, who started this thread, has) you would refer to this system as a Workstation. Yes that leads one to understand that, in fact, we are talking about DAWs.

This semantically driven post is here for the benefit of our fundamentally knowledge challenged guests who like to post statements based on non-foundative assumptions.

PipelineAudio wrote on 9/28/2004, 5:14 PM

:)

My werkstayshun are having fitz

Youn wrote on 9/29/2004, 7:46 AM

Wow guys, I was just trying to be a little more sensitive to the fact that most people have other programs (MS Office, games, etc..) on their machine as well as Vegas, that's all... and giving what tmrpro stated such a computer should not be considered a DAW - I was more or less agreeing with his and VegUsers statements, if that was not clear then I apologize...

(Yeah, I had allot of times on my hand yesterday!)

cosmo wrote on 9/29/2004, 7:49 AM

...I'm going to call this the "Thread of DUH". Or so it turned into...

tmrpro wrote on 9/29/2004, 7:57 AM

Wow guys, I was just trying to be a little more sensitive to the fact that most people have other programs (MS Office, games, etc..) on their machine as well as Vegas, that's all... and giving what tmrpro stated such a computer should not be considered a DAW - I was more or less agreeing with his and VegUsers statements, if that was not clear then I apologize...

Don't sweat it, I was only playing with ya'...

;~)

I agree with you that there's a ton of users out there that are using Vegas that are 1-computer owners. We all should embrace them, because they buy the product too and the more Sony sells, the better off the product will be for both the professional and the hobbyist.

The hobbyists who use the program for fun should expect the "Bings & Bongs" and perhaps would prefer them happening during the use of their applications.

wobblyboy wrote on 9/30/2004, 6:11 PM

I have been running Cubase and Vegas on my PC for 5 years to do both audio and vlideo production. I have never had a problem with bings or bongs etc. I run my audio for Cubase and Vegas through Motu. Other audio is sent through windows and Soundblaster. I generally don't use this computer for internet. I simply disable it in Windows settings. It only takes a second to enable it if I want to get files from my own network of computers or download software. I also sometimes run my graphics programs on this computer to create Cd covers etc. I use both computer and router firewall and run virus protection. So far no problems. Hope it stays that way.

Note: The PC I have been using has changed over the 5 years with upgrades. But the system and use has not.

PipelineAudio wrote on 9/30/2004, 6:50 PM

I dont expect them when I have turned off system sounds and chose "do not map this device"

I hear the trick setup is to have a mobo with onboard sound and just send all tones to it, and not having windows even have the thought to send to your studio cards

MJhig wrote on 9/30/2004, 7:14 PM

That's what I do Pipe, I have an $11 SB audio PCI card and assign it as the default Windows card. Nothing goes to my Delta but recording/playback for DAW work.

The SB also works well to assign click tracks to separate from the Delta.

MJ