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Subject:record/play with M-box?
Posted by: buckaroo
Date:9/15/2004 12:17:19 AM

Has anyone here recording and playing back with the M-box soundcard?

I can playback but really want to record, i know it doesnt support ASIO, but i didnt know whether there was any 3rd party software to get the m-box working and recording with Sforge...?

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/15/2004 6:49:47 AM

Are you saying You want to record and playback at the same time? Sound Forge cannot do that, you will need multitrack recording Software like Sony Vegas to record and playback at the sametime. Sound Forge will record and also playback, just not at the same time.

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: buckaroo
Date:9/15/2004 8:24:12 AM

No i dont mean at the same time, i mean just generally, record with the Mbox in Sforge ?

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/15/2004 11:41:31 AM

Odd. You mean you can't record with the MBox at all? As long as its drivers are installed properly, you should be able to record with it in Sound Forge...or is it one of those interfaces that's designed to only work with Pro Tools?

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Greg_M
Date:9/15/2004 4:43:04 PM

buckaroo,

The Digi wave driver doesn't support recording (assuming you are using version 6.x of the wave driver), only playback.

Greg

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Yummay
Date:9/16/2004 7:15:23 AM

Hi.

Same problem here with an DIGI 002. I am really surprised by the fact that WAVE DRIVER is not design for recording... I'll check that up... I was convinced it was a 2 channel I/O driver...

Does anybody think there is any chances for Sony's complete product line to support ASIO (Stereo ASIO for CDA and SF for instance??)

Cheers


Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Sonic
Date:9/16/2004 8:21:41 AM

Yes, a good chance.

IMHO, ASIO should *not* be a de facto requirement for all Sony products. But apparently writing real Windows drivers is just too difficult for all but a few manufacturers.

I'd like to think this will all be a distant memory five years down the road with the Longhorn audio model, but I'm not holding my breath.

J.

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/16/2004 10:56:45 AM

"But apparently writing real Windows drivers is just too difficult for all but a few manufacturers."

Also one of the major reasons I walked away from Protools going on 10 years ago now and said hello Sonic Foundry. Although everyone kept telling me, "you like PC's? well then you should get Protools for Windows NT." It always seems to me with company's that try to make products which are cross platform compatible.......well they never really are. It sounds good on paper as they say. To me, Digidesign will always be MAC first with PC support as an afterthought. "Oh...our wavedriver doesn't work in Windows so you can record?"...oh well, you should have bought a MAC it works fine overthere. I get the same type of feeling with MOTU products also. You can just look at MOTU's software products and see they're all supported on the MAC, but only a few for the PC. The same with their hardware drivers, MAC drivers are always released well before a Windows driver.

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/16/2004 1:05:02 PM

Let me get this straight: You can't record with the MBox in Windows...but you can with a Mac? Yikes. I'd hate to be an MBox Windows user and find that out.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/16/2004 1:20:49 PM

From what I'm getting is that in using the M-box wave driver you can't record with it. If you use the ASIO driver then you can, but Sound Forge or CD Architect doesn't support the ASIO driver.

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Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: MJhig
Date:9/16/2004 1:38:46 PM

Yea Red, I'm with you. That's why the "voting" idea wouldn't work. I like you can't be bothered to type all the extra "couching" along with free advice.

There are so many that are so easily offended by point blank posts that you and I would be voted off in a week.

Coming from New England where "point blank, matter of fact" discussions are not only the norm but appreciated I was horrified to find after moving to the South that "Southern Diplomacy" is more important here than fact. I'm constantly annoyed to listen to very slowly presented, 1000 word dissertations where 3 well constructed sentences would accurately get the point across.

So be it, I seldom post in any of the forums anymore, it's just no fun.

MJ

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Chaim
Date:9/16/2004 5:01:55 PM

I truly enjoy and appreciate the advice given by pro audio folks on this forum, and would hate to see any of you drop out because of a few cranks. My suggestion would be to simply give someone who's out of line the silent treatment; let the thread die if they are the originator, or click the ignore button so they'll be invisible to you in the discussion. Hopefully they'll realize they are being ignored and shut out of the process, and even if not who cares?

--Chaim

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Sonic
Date:9/17/2004 8:12:27 AM

According to the Digi website, the readme for WaveDriver v5.3.3 for MBox states that it should be able to record. They appear to have removed recording in v.6.1.1 (assuming it actually works in 5.3.3).

Worth a shot. Both are available in the support/downloads section.

J.

Subject:RE: record/play with M-box?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/17/2004 9:33:25 AM

Information from Digidesign website regarding the drivers:

"The Digidesign WaveDriver 6.1.1 is a two-channel, multimedia sound driver that allows third-party audio applications to play back through channels 1-2 of any Pro Tools LE system on Windows XP."

"The Digidesign WaveDriver v5.3.3 is a two-channel, multimedia sound driver that allows third-party audio applications to record and play back through channels 1-2 of Mbox on Windows XP."

Amazing!!! It seems Digidesign can't or won't write a wave driver that records? This must be the reason they purchased M-audio......hey we don't know how to do it, let's purchase someone who does. Good luck on your M-audio hardware, hopefully the people who wrote the M-audio drivers also came along as part of the deal, or for the next M-audio driver updates you might run into the same problem if it follows the M-box driver update trend.

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