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Subject:Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Posted by: Rareburto
Date:9/10/2004 8:00:33 PM
Have you ever used the "Ignore This User" button? I have not yet. What do you do if the thread becomes a rant? Do you join in, get even, or move on? I think I would have joined in, had I not had the following experience: I remember reading one thread were one guy, the antagonist, got everybody upset with his anger/negativity. It's was a war of words. Everyone wanted the last hit so it went on and on. No one got satisfaction. Since I was not embroiled in it, I could calmly sit back and think: "One should not worry about getting the last hit. Silence will leave the antagonist empty handed. He won't even know if you read his last post. And it stops something that should be stopped." If I was more involved, I probably would have wanted the last hit too. But I wasn't more involved which made it esier for me to learn a lesson. How about the power of the "Ignore this user" button? I wish the Sony support guy would have used it. Instead he was so battered by the antagonist that he swore not to ever return to the forum. I think we do not use the button for the same reason we like to look at car wrecks. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:9/10/2004 8:49:33 PM
We have the same problem in my chat room. We'll have a few very very annoying and offensive chatters and most of the other participants will complain long and loud and repeatedly to the monitors about those few. We also have a perfectly serviceable ignore function (i know, 'cause i wrote the code myself). Now, will people use this ignore function? Almost never. They'd rather keep reading and complaining. *shrug* Go figger. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/11/2004 12:15:00 PM
I've used it once, but then I reverted back. I'd rather see what my opposition is thinking so I can respond. I try not to get involved in flame wars; I try to debate the issue in a logical manner. Since I'm a stubborn bastard, I can usually do this until they get sick of the subject. :) I could ignore the next user that comes up with "Where's ACID 5?" in the ACID family forum. (That's getting to be as infamous as "How do I remove vocals?") A little education goes a long way though. If they want to engage in childish ad hominem attacks, fine. But if something is obviously wrong, I definitely will say something. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rareburto
Date:9/11/2004 4:17:24 PM
Chienworks, Can you ask your complainers to use the ignore button, and see what they say. How about a button for "Ignore this user for this thread"? One concern I have is to block out forever a user who is having a rare tantrum, but who may be useful at other times. Maybe no one would use such a button, anymore than the current button. The current button may have some good effect even if no one pushes it. It is like a reminder to behave - or else. What forum do you manage? If I ignore a user, can I undo it later? |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:9/11/2004 5:10:02 PM
We do always remind our users about the ignore function. They'll just hem & haw and not use it anyway. *shrug*. I did add a "supermoderator" feature that allows me to click the ignore button for other people if they refuse to do it for themselves. I just did this recently with a pair that are always egging each other on and annoying everyone else. When either one is alone they're not so bad, but when they're together they fight and escalate and bother others. I'm hoping that if they don't see each other logged in they'll behave a little better. So far so good ... until they notice they're ignoring each other and remove the ignore. www.chienchat.com And yes, you may undo ignores. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/12/2004 7:22:07 AM
I decided to use the ignore user in a different manor, I just totally stopped posting in the Vegas Audio forum, since that's where I found the "antagonist" users hang out at. If you ask the antagonist user, he feels he's done the forum a great service by singling me out. If you go back and look my last post was on 6/29 in that forum. Prior to this I use to post almost on a daily basis, where you'll find that other user use to also, but his posts always followed one of mine in attempts to try and discredit all the information I posted. Since then he's posted a handful of times, so it looks like to me he doesn't have anything to say to help anyone out, unless it's to come in and critique my posts. I really have no problems with people critiquing my posts, just back your posts up with some additional information and facts behind it. I agree with MD, if I see something posted that is in the most part wrong, I will tell them that they're wrong, and I will further give the details and facts behind why I consider their information wrong. To me this is just common curtousy and I feel the entire forum benefits from having correct information to go by. If they don't agree with my information, I have no problem with a debate. I expect the same common curtousy, tell me why I'm wrong and back your information up with facts. That's where you'll find the antagonistic user always fails, because they don't have the facts behind their opinion. They feel they're the pro and what they say is correct and they don't need any backing information. So you'll find they tend to resort to name calling and other childish behavior. This in itself shows how much of a pro you really aren't. To me a pro will know the details and can properly debate their opinion without having to resort to the name calling. If someone doesn't have their facts and information correct in a debate, they have nothing left to resort too, but name calling. It's too bad they just can't say, "Hey I see your point, now that you've taken the time to fully explain it and I've learned something I didn't know before." There's quite a few users I have respect for in this manor in these forums. I'll be the first to admit that I don't know everything but I do have a strong knowledge in audio and using the Sony apps in doing audio tasks. I'll also tell you I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes to doing video work. I've been helped by Chienworks advice many times on the video side. Chienworks and MD also help a lot of users out as far as using the Sony apps with audio. Their information is usually right on, but occassionally I'll come in and add to their posts. Not once have they gotten upset and has this caused an argument. They usually reply by saying Thanks, I hadn't thought about doing it that way also. Other users get upset and go on the defensive and take it like I just posted the additional information to discredit theirs. That's not so, I feel I gave the person asking the original question additional information and they can then take all the information and decide which works best for them. There's also those other users that are the constant whiners. They'll come in and post a question on how do you accomplish something in the app? I'll reply to them and say it doesn't work that way in Vegas/Sound Forge etc....but here's the way to achieve the same results, give it a try and see if that works for you. Well, they're just set in their ways of thinking of how they think it should be done and if it's not done that way then the app is wrong for not doing it that way. Then they'll further go on to criticize me that it's my fault the app doesn't do it their way. Now how rediculous is that? I'm a user just like they are and that's what I thought these forums where for, so other users can help each other solve a problem they can't get past. So to me did they really come in to post a message to solve their problem, or is it more they just came into whine about the app? |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/12/2004 9:08:25 AM
I'd just like to add that I'm an idiot when it comes to audio engineering. I'm just a lowly musician when all is said and done. :) I decided to use the ignore user in a different manor, I just totally stopped posting in the Vegas Audio forum, since that's where I found the "antagonist" users hang out at... Tell me about it. Now that I've been part of the forums for the last few years I noticed it's more or less of a wax and wane situation. You'll have people coming and going in fits and spurts. It's the people with stars in their eyes that drive me crazy (and usually the ones that come and go—constantly). It's almost like they want the app to make the music for them, not realizing the actual work involved (however easy and intuitive it is in Sony's apps). I was involved in a thread over in the ACID forum recently about—surprise!—how ACID Pro "was falling behind" other apps like Live 4. I couldn't tell anyone here how much that made me laugh because it truly shows some ignorance. I've actually tried Live 4 and it isn't anything like ACID. (Never mind the fact that Live can't work with ACIDized loops and such, falling back on its own proprietary stretching engine.) I'm sure Live's MIDI features are great and all but its digital audio features left me blessing Sony's teams of programmers, designers, et al. for their apps. (I'm into digital audio more than MIDI in most cases.) It's like night and day in terms of function. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: cosmo
Date:9/14/2004 8:16:59 AM
I never use it...but I think it should be a "ban this user" button with a little voting machanism. Then we can kick out the troublemakers -) Like the dumb*ss that ran Rednroll out of the audio forum. That guy is only here to make trouble...obviously since his posts have all but stopped since June. These forums are Audio forums, not argument forums. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/14/2004 11:19:45 AM
Red, JohnnyRoy (another helpful forum user) and I caught some flak a couple days ago in the ACID forum. You could cut the hostility towards us with a knife. It was like we were agents of evil or something. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/14/2004 12:58:48 PM
Yeah, that Acid forum discussion turned rediculous. If there's one thing I can't stand is that you post some advice and then you get some idiots coming in doing nothing but bashing your advice and telling you how incorrectly you answered the post and how you totally missed the original question. Hmmmm, again could you back that up with some facts, I'ld like to at least learn something if I'm wrong and why I should consider your opinion better than mine. I believe the term "troll" has been coined for that type of behavior. Hey!!!! Here's an idea.....how about offering some of your own advice for once? Then he goes onto say how there's only 5 users opinions that matter and if you disagree with those opinions then you're condemned for it. Hey...that should tell you something too? Maybe if you stood up to the plate and offered some of your own advice and shared some experience then we could at least add a 6th persons opinion and advice. The thing I found most hilarious in that post is that he teamed up with "Veguser" aka "JoeD". Now there's a credible source of information. That guys already on my mental "ignore this user" list. Usually you read through to the second sentence of one of his posts and it sounds nothing like hot wind and farts blowing around. That is if you can even cut through all the name calling and cuss words to get to an intelligle sentence in the first place. Cheers, Red |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rareburto
Date:9/14/2004 1:06:25 PM
MD, you wrote "I try not to get involved in flame wars; I try to debate the issue in a logical manner. Since I'm a stubborn bastard, I can usually do this until they get sick of the subject. :)" Somehow it struck my funny bone. I laughed my ass off reading that. I could just imagine you going on and on until they got sick of it and gave up. You also said "I'd rather see what my opposition is thinking so I can respond." So you definetly do not want to let it lay. To you it's important to defend and win when you are right. Pretty much like most of us. When you are embroiled in a flame, there may be some satisfaction in winning and possibly even the whole process is enjoyable. Or maybe you do not enjoy it, but you can't stand to loose when you are right, and the other guy is an ass. But for me, I think a different approach would be better. Here is a suggestion to save time and stop flame wars. When things have degraded, respond with something like this (cut and paste and modify to suit): "This discussion is turning into an argument where we have some disagreements that we seem to be unable to resolve. Rather than repeating what I have said, and rather than continuing the argument, I am going to let you have the last say if you want it, and I will not respond anymore, even though I disagree. It is just not worth the time when we are making no progress. Yours truly, and signing off. " Now if the guy attacks you personally - do not respond and he will look like the ass. No matter what he says, and he will try to get you to respond -- do not respond. He will be left flat, hearing nothing but his own empty echo. The majority of the readers are not embroiled, so they will think what you did, to stop the nonsense, is right on. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: cosmo
Date:9/14/2004 1:07:41 PM
amen on that dude. joeD made me think this place was full of total *sshole losers the first time I read through the posts.... |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: cosmo
Date:9/14/2004 1:09:47 PM
sweet. THAT's funny. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/14/2004 1:37:31 PM
Cosmo said: "but I think it should be a "ban this user" button with a little voting machanism." Cosmo, I like your thinking. I'm a PS2 Socom II junky in my spare time and this really reminds me of a similar feature they have in that game for online play. You play the game online in teams of 8 vs 8. Well occassionally you get some idiot on the game that decides to team kill everyone or starts cheating using game glitches, or just making an obnoxious ass of themselves on the microphone and it really takes the fun out of the game for everyone else. So they have a voting mechanism like you said, and when the majority of the team votes them to be "removed" vs "retained", off they get booted from the game. I could see a similar feature in these forums where if you get enough votes to remove, then that user can't post in that topic any longer. Back to that Acid forum debachery. I know in most of my posts I'm to the point with details and take more time thinking of the details of "what I'm saying" to get my point across rather than, in "how I say it." I guess Political correctness is just not my cup of tea. In that post I said something on the nature of "I think that might be a pretty dumb move, because...." So they all got upset because I called the guy "Dumb". Well, I didn't think I was calling him dumb, I thought the decision might have been a "dumb" move. I believe the word "dumb" is used as an adverb describing "move" in that sentence. So maybe to be more politically correct I should have said, "I think that might not have been such a smart move." Then for those over sensative types not fully understanding the structure of the English language would have thought I was calling him "smart". I'll have to work on that political correctness a little more. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rareburto
Date:9/14/2004 6:24:23 PM
Rednroll, all your good info PLUS political correctness - that is the ultimate! It's very open minded of you to mention it. For some reason email and forums benefit from an unnaturally high level of politeness. Cosmo, You got my vote too for the "ban this user" button. Sounds beneficial and do-able the way Rednroll explains it. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: drbam
Date:9/15/2004 7:26:37 AM
I like the "ban this user" idea as well. Kind of a "survival" show approach and democratic. At any rate, I rarely visit the Acid forum anymore due to the sheer amount whining. It makes the Vegas forum seem totally mature and sophisticated by comparison (which of course it is not). Sadly, since Red and Peter left, I have not found the Vegas forum very helpful anymore. ;-( drbam |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/15/2004 12:03:41 PM
You mean Peter from Sony? (If that's the case, wow, that had to be bad.) Red: If it gets really bad, I usually take a "scorched earth" approach, preferring to take myself down with the offender. (For example, I'll usually call myself a humble a$$hole nobody (which is true, when it really comes down to it) just trying to help out others and suggest to them that they do the same instead of whining like a spoiled rock star.) But what you suggested is a great idea too. :) VegUser isn't the first and certainly won't be the last. When I read your SOCOM II experience, I immediately thought of that Penny Arcade comic. (Warning: Suggestive language.) I've heard this is a common thing (which doesn't surprise me; used to play online games myself). I don't know how you guys deal with it (other than to squelch and boot the offenders). I got sick and tired of the cheating and duplicity going on in games like Diablo II, Unreal Tournament and Counter-Strike. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: drbam
Date:9/15/2004 4:26:57 PM
>>You mean Peter from Sony? (If that's the case, wow, that had to be bad.)<< Yep, Peter from Sony, and yes it was very bad. The abuse and disrespect directed at him was completely over the top and in my view, had all the hallmarks of someone with a full blown antisocial personality disorder – these folks actually enjoy inflicting pain on others and have very little access to a personal concience. Oh well. . . ;-( drbam |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/15/2004 5:06:44 PM
Yeah, I actually suggested that Peter stop posting and he took me up on it and I followed suit soon after. I felt bad for the guy. It seems like he's really interested in hearing users feedback to help out with future development of the software and giving assistance to users questions. Unfortunately by him doing that, it turned into a let's abuse the poor guy by basically calling him an idiot and saying he has no idea of how things are done in a recording studio, because Vegas doesn't have rewire, hardware based input monitoring, midi...blahh..blahh..yada..yada. It was like every post in the forum turned into that kind of discussion focused at him. I had some personal email discussions with him right after the release of Vegas 5.0 and he was telling me how he was getting bombarded by hate emails from users complaining about the features Vegas didn't get, and here I was commending him for a great job. |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: ATP
Date:9/16/2004 2:34:48 AM
i think Peter suffers from the same problem as you, which is being blunt spoken and not giving a damn about "political correctness". so i can see how the users who get pissed off at your comments would get even more pissed off at Peter's, especially since he's a developer of whom you'd expect a more professional approach (like all the other Sony devs posting here use, for example). not trying to bash you or Peter btw, you yourself already said you want to work on how you phrase things. i couldn't care less on how you post, if feels offensive i'll just ignore it. but i can imagine why people would have a problem with it, especially since you or Peter are considered to be respected posters despite being rather tactless when posting (or simply not caring about it, which amounts to the same). of course i realize this particular posting of mine is not very tactful either, but i feel somebody like you can deal with it. after all, this is how your own posts look like to some other people most of the time as well. so, please don't take offense, none is meant. just playing Devil's Advocate. to get back on topic, no i don't use the Ignore feature since i already have a mental Ignore feature. simply skip the offending post and go to the next one, no harm done. if everybody could do that all the flamers would leave of their own accord soon enough. :) |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: kbruff
Date:9/16/2004 4:40:33 AM
I have long since seen how much energy is wasted on "non-constructive" comments. Further just a draw a quick comparison, check out the Steinberg Wavelab forum, quite frankly users are more grateful, tech support often participates in the discussions and it just seems that it is a friendlier environment. I think of so many occassions where a response illegally presents a bad vibe, why -- I wish I knew. I honestly do not rely on getting any help from the forums, I usually try to offer what I know and my experience. The truth is Sony / Sonic Foundry has a great set of tools, and the idea should be to encourage increased usage, and not... I know this...and you dont, My opinion is better than your opinion -- it is just silly |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/16/2004 7:34:26 AM
"Red, JohnnyRoy (another helpful forum user) and I caught some flak a couple days ago in the ACID forum." Well, there goes another long winded deleted thread. So anyone know when Acid Pro 5.0 is due to be released? ...........How about Sound Forge 9.0? or Vegas 8.0? :-) |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/16/2004 1:20:45 PM
Well, there goes another long winded deleted thread. So anyone know when Acid Pro 5.0 is due to be released? ...........How about Sound Forge 9.0? or Vegas 8.0? :-) LOL Yeah, and have it make the music for me too! I'm sick and tired of having to work to get my projects done! ...because Vegas doesn't have rewire, hardware based input monitoring, midi...blahh..blahh..yada..yada. It was like every post in the forum turned into that kind of discussion focused at him. I had some personal email discussions with him right after the release of Vegas 5.0 and he was telling me how he was getting bombarded by hate emails from users complaining about the features Vegas didn't get, and here I was commending him for a great job. What a freakin' minute..."hardware based input monitoring"? Isn't that up to the audio interface itself? (I mean, I do this all the time with my Echo MiaMIDI in ACID Pro. And ACID has no input monitoring, period.) To be honest, apps like Sound Forge and WaveLab are easier to use and have a specific purpose. This forum, for example, is generally a lot quieter than the ACID and Vegas forums in terms of user behavior. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/16/2004 2:12:41 PM
"To be honest, apps like Sound Forge and WaveLab are easier to use and have a specific purpose." Ohhhh....You're going to be highly disappointed in the future. Word on the streets has it that Sony is going to discontinue all of their current software products upon the release of their new flagship software Sony Media Production Pro v1.0. In M.P.P. Acid, Sound Forge, CDA, DVDA, and Vegas will all be menu items. I might be breaking my NDA at this point, but here's a list of other targeted features for M.P.P. 1. Automix The software will have a list of presets, like "Dance mix, Rock Mix, Hip Hop mix, Jazz Mix, etc." You select the preset and the software will analyze all your tracks and do all the proper mixing for you. 2. Auto Record This one is my favorite. You scan in a copy of the written lyrics into your PC and just record a snipit sample of the singers voice. The software will then record the entire performance for you while you go take a coffee break without the talent even having to step into the recording booth. You can also do the same thing for guitar and drum parts using sheet music, but no sample is needed because there will be guitar and drum sound VSTi instruments which will have every sound you ever heard. 3. Instrument/vocal remover/extractor Yep, they finally figured it out. Through the use of these new VSTi's and vocal sampling learning algorithm's they can correctly recreate the song without the vocals in it, or just have the VSTi recreate the acapella for you. 4. Auto-mastering Once your song has been put through the auto-record and auto-mix functions, up pops an automastering option, where there will be presets like Bob Ludwig, Bob Katz, and Simon Heyworth to name a few. You can even create your own presets by inserting a CD mastered by someone else and the software will figure out all the techniques used by that mastering engineer and then apply them to your mix. The same technique also can be used by the auto-mix feature. Optional plugin 5. Auto-song This is a truely amazing plugin, that obviously won't be included in the M.P.P. boxed version, because of the added value. You enter in the number of albums you would like to sell and M.P.P. writes you a hit song that correlates to that number. It does this by doing a scan on the internet to see what people are listening to the most and using algorithms which can diagnose, why people like those song so much. Then once you complete the song and enter in the release date of the song, it further uploads the information on the internet, where it spreads like a computer virus and people just start pulling out their wallets and buying your song. Sony really continued on with their intuitive GUI. It is truly the simplest user interface as like all the other Sony software. It's basically 4 buttons (ie automix, autorecord, automastering, and autosong.) Within 4 mouse clicks you can have a song done and on your way to selling a million copies. For those of you who like to tweak the settings and add your own style to it, that's what the Acid,Vegas and Sound Forge view menu items are for. If you want to tweak the mix, you go to the Vegas view window and it brings up the entire Vegas UI with all the tracks and mix settings and you start tweaking away. Samething for mastering with the Sound Forge view, and Preproduction tweaks with the Acid view. I can't tell you the release date of the software, because that's definately against the NDA I signed. I did receive the first beta build last week though, but there seems to be a bug in the auto-song plugin. It creates the song fine, but when it goes to upload the information for the album sales incentive, it connected to my own personal bank account and withdrew all the funds and deposited them into some Swiss bank account under the name "SonyPCH". Peter told me they're working on fixing that bug in the next beta release, but so far he hasn't been successful in getting my funds back into my account.....hmmmmmmm? I can tell you I'm not going to do any further audio recording, because I know this is on the horizon and why would I want to work so hard when I can have software do it all for me? Just try and keep all this information on the downlow for now though. I don't want Sony to come in and ban me from the forums or delete this thread, so other users can't get in on the inside scoop. Legal Disclaimer 1. Opinions may vary 2. No offense intended for disagreeing viewpoints 3. Advice comes free of charge and is therefore exempt of any legal litigation due to the exact correctness or misinterpretation of information contained within. 4. This message contains information, which is not privileged or confidential, or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 5. The author of this message is in no way affiliated with Sony Pictures Digital Media Software or any other subsidiaries of the Sony Corporation. 6. Any viewpoint expressed may or may not be the viewpoint of Sony Pictures Digital Media Software. 7. If any user is offended by the information expressed within, please use the "ignore this user" button located next to the authors name to avoid any further offensive subject matter. Red |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rareburto
Date:9/16/2004 4:40:37 PM
Rednroll, The trend with software is the swiss army knife all-in-one. So you had me going for a while. Then I got to the part about "Auto-Song" I began to laugh my ass off. I enjoyed the whole thing. Pretty good science fiction humor. Your writing style gave it a lot of credibility, so it took me a while to catch on. Everyone, Why am I not getting any support for my earlier post? It was: A suggestion to save time and stop flame wars. When things have degraded, respond with "This discussion is going nowhere. I am going to let you have the last say and I will not respond anymore, even though I disagree. Yours truly, and signing off. " Is it personal pride that makes this too hard to do? Or what? |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: rraud
Date:9/16/2004 5:55:23 PM
Will the Sony Media Production Pro v1.0 Auto Record process have a Rap, Gangsta Rap, Hip-hop drum machine and lyric & rythme process' And will MC Rednflow endorse it? |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: MJhig
Date:9/16/2004 6:41:40 PM
Will the next version of M.P.P locate the best bank account providing the top dividend and locate my "producer" mansion for me at a below market rate once I get my Gold Record? Will it also handle my legal concerns 'cuz I don't want anyone else to get my money? If not what software will be better? Oh, and will I finally be able to record my little MIDI keyboard played with my mouse in Sound Forge and make MP3 loops without gaps? If not what software will? Hey, can I get a crack of M.P.P.? Oh, and will there be a data base link for the best bling bling prices? TIA MJ |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: MrMenace
Date:9/16/2004 7:16:59 PM
Rednroll, I tend to lurk on this forum and look to see what useful tips I can glean. I have always found your advice to be useful when you offer it and your wit to be quite good. This post about auto song is just too good! Dennis |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:9/17/2004 6:21:11 AM
"Will the Sony Media Production Pro v1.0 Auto Record process have a Rap, Gangsta Rap, Hip-hop drum machine and lyric & rythme process'" Oh course, those have all been analyzed styles of music and hve been redcuced down to a single button push preset. And also as I mentioned earlier if the preset isn't available, alls you have to do is insert a CD of this or any new style of music and M.P.P. will analyze the style create a new preset and mix your music to match that style of music. "And will MC Rednflow endorse it?" I've actually been pushing them to add a DJ Mc Rednflow as a preset in the auto-record vocal section, that will create that certain flava rap stye dat I be puttin down. My name is Red my rap is phat.....I be bringing mad hitz.....are you down wit dat!?......Media production pro.....1 point Owe...is where it's at.......don't cha disagree...I'll cap ya wit my gat.........what up my niggas!!?? Let's tear da roof off dis mutha f**ka!!! For some reason with my style they just haven't been able to duplicate it into a preset. They told me they're gonna target that one for M.P.P. v2.0. "Oh, and will I finally be able to record my little MIDI keyboard played with my mouse in Sound Forge and make MP3 loops without gaps? If not what software will?" Unfortunately those are tasks too difficult even for Media Production Pro. I heard you might be able to do it in the new wavelab though. "Hey, can I get a crack of M.P.P.?" Yea, but you have to be careful, because Sony has come up with a new copy protection where if it detects that the program has been altered through a crack, Mini Me pops out of your monitor and shoots you in the head. That feature still has a few bugs in it right now. When I went to complete the online registration process, I lost internet connection right in the middle of the registration. Mini Me popped out and busted off a few shots....luckily they had the drunk mini me installed and he wasn't able to hit me. "Oh, and will there be a data base link for the best bling bling prices?" I got that up now at WWW.DJ_MC_REDNROLL.COM\BLING\BLING |
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/18/2004 12:49:17 PM
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Subject:RE: Ever use the "Ignore This User" button?
Reply by: pikshirtkr
Date:9/22/2004 7:33:47 PM
How about an ebay style approach to the problem. When you get feedback in ebay, you get a number by your name. In the forum, set it up so if someone is being rude or whatever, any number of users in THAT THREAD ONLY can give him/her a point. When the antagonist reaches a certain number of points (pisses enough people off), I would say 10 is a fair number, then they are not allowed to post to that thread anymore. These forums are so helpful that anyone in their right mind wouldn't want to be eliminated from joining in. I thought that's what aol and yahoo chat rooms were invented for, for idiots that have nothing better to do than bitch at nothing, with no one to listen to them. |