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Subject:changing key easily?
Posted by: spinweb
Date:9/13/2004 8:34:02 AM

I have a tune in the key of E. Drums (loop), bass (recorded via sound card) and guitars (also recorded via sound card). Is there an easy way to move the key to G without going into each track and fiddling with it? If I use the drop down key changer, nothing happens because the bass and guitar tracks aren't loops.

What's the secret?

Thanks!

Rick

Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:9/13/2004 9:32:22 AM

I think you can set the key in the properties window even if the file is a "one shot." Once the key is set, it should automaticly transpose. I'm not near acid right now, so tell me if that doesn't work.

Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/13/2004 11:17:29 AM

What track type are your recorded takes? One-shot is the only digital audio track type that is not stretched by ACID in any way.

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: spinweb
Date:9/13/2004 11:52:31 AM

Uh, to be honest, I hit the red record button and let it rip. I've
always taken the default. I'll check again when I get home, but
they are probably all one shots.

Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/13/2004 12:58:34 PM

If you have the "make new track follow project tempo" option unchecked, the recorded take will become a One-shot.

What you can do is solo the track (or tracks) in question, place the Loop Region over the area of audio you'd like to keep, and use CTRL+M to bounce the results to a new track.

What this will do is automatically ACIDize your audio with project tempo and key info, usually as a Loop. (The default is between half a second to 30 seconds.)

After doing this, your newly rendered track (or tracks) should change key when the rest of your project does.

Couple tips: Mix your soloed tracks together so that they approach unity (0.0 dB) in volume without clipping. Worry about mixing the bounced down track after.

Note the newly rendered track will have a cut automatically applied based on the Preview slider in the Mixer (just as all added tracks to your project do). If it sounds lower than the originally mixed tracks, it's only because its volume slider is set that way. Set the volume slider as appropriate and you should be golden.

Note also that you shouldn't apply key info to percussion tracks because they typically don't have a definite pitch. (I know you don't have any recorded percussion tracks, but I thought I'd let you know.) When bouncing such tracks, be sure to set your overall project's key to "None." (Set it back after bouncing.)

If you're using ACID Pro, be sure to play around with the stretching properties (located under the track's properties). Add custom stretch markers to any part of the audio you feel needs stressing (like subdivisions of a beat).

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:9/14/2004 6:39:38 AM

I was wrong. You can't set the key of a one shot.

Subject:RE: changing key easily?
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/14/2004 11:05:54 AM

You can't set the pitch of a One-shot, but you can change its timbre. It's very much like manipulating the sample rate to affect its overtones.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

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