Subject:Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Posted by: bflat

Date:8/28/2004 7:00:48 PM

Like you suggested, I changed my Audio Device to CREATIVE ASIO & my sample rate to 48,000 Hz. This caused horrible crashes, 10+ minutes long, whenever I tried recording. (I did this about a dozen times, cuz at first I thought the XP Service Pack II was to blame.)

As soon as I returned my settings to MS SOUND MAPPER / sample rate 44,100 Hz, I was able to record again.

-- Now: I'd been having problems working with larger WAVE samples, & discovered thru experimentation that WINDOWS CLASSIC WAVE DRIVER fixed that problem.

BIG QUESTION: Can I use WIN CLASSIC W DRIVER & set to 44,100 or 48,000 & be free from crashes?

I have a Creative sound card, so I don't understand why I can't use their Audio Device setting.

Any advice? I am thoroughly confused here.

Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:8/29/2004 5:33:53 AM

Sorry to hear you’re having so many problems. Did you disable your on-board sound? (perhaps this is causing a conflict) This is why everyone here suggests that Creative sound cards be avoided like the plague. Yes, you can continue to use the Sound Mapper at 44KHz. You will not get the best sound because the Creative card is 48KHz internally so everything you record will be dithered/up sampled to 48KHz by the cards inputs and then downsample by its outputs, but if you’re OK with how it sounds then that’s all that matters.

I unfortunately also have a Creative card which I bought before I decided to turn my rig into a DAW and I use the Creative ASIO drivers at 48000 without any problems so there is definitely something wrong with your PC if it’s crashing on those settings. But if the sound mapper works and you’re happy, then keep it that way.

~jr

Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/29/2004 8:09:56 AM

You could certainly try the "Windows Classic Wave" driver. Note that you won't get as good a latency as you would with ASIO as far as MIDI is concerned.

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: bflat

Date:8/30/2004 3:17:45 AM

-- How do I disable on-board sound? --

Which card to you have, JohnnyBoy? I'm using a platinum 2 ex audigy.

I may be able to use various other settings that work; I haven't experimented with all of them. This crashing is hideous business. If I can get 38KHz to work with Sound Mapper or another non-Creative driver, will this give me good sound?

I am getting very very good but not excellent sound. Any tweaks I could manage would be helpful.

Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:8/30/2004 7:41:08 AM

As mentioned over and over- you can tweak this piece of crap until the end of time but you will never get anything usable with a Soundblaster. How much crashing etc are you willing to endure before you catch the drift?

Get rid of the Soundblaster and step up to a pro-level card...all this crashing etc will be a thing of the past...plus your time with Acid will be much more enjoyable....

Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/30/2004 9:50:48 AM

I can vouch that going from a Sound Blaster Live to an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 was like night and day in terms of performance. (Echo's MiaMIDI is just as good too.)

The problem with Sound Blasters is that they try to be many things to many people, whereas cards/interfaces from Echo, M-Audio, RME, et al. are specifically meant for pro-audio.

I'd note, however, that if you're into computer gaming, pro-audio cards are not meant for that task. This is about the only area where Sound Blasters have an advantage. It's very much like how CAD video cards are specifically suited for CAD; you wouldn't use those cards for gaming either.

Iacobus
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Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:RE: Your Settings Made Me Crash, Guys!

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:8/30/2004 7:03:22 PM

> -- How do I disable on-board sound? --

You need to go into your BIOS and turn off any onboard sound that your motherboard may have. How you get into the BIOS is different for every computer. You need to consult your PC manual for how to do this.

> Which card to you have, JohnnyBoy? I'm using a platinum 2 ex audigy.

I’m using the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum with the breakout box in an empty 5 1/2 in. drive bay. If you have an original Audigy and not the Audigy 2 then Creative flat out lied about its specs. They exaggerated its 24 bit capabilities and it's really only a 16 bit card. The card I have will go up to 96KHz sample rate at 24 bit depth.

Here are my PC specs. I built my own.

~jr