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Subject:OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Posted by: knowbody
Date:8/10/2004 9:04:50 PM
I just wonder what software people use to burn finished tracks to CD/DVD? CD Architect is outside the price range I am thinking of. I also want something that can record data and make mix mode CDs. I had Nero (version 5 I think) but it kept renaming tracks and the support was so terrible I decided to boycott them. I have a bundled version of MyDVD (version 4) but this seems to install a lot of unnecessary programs and the RecordNow element wouldn't record at rates higher than 44,100 Hz. Thanks, Chris (Hunt) |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:8/11/2004 1:02:43 PM
If you're not looking to spend a wad of cash, there's Roxio's Easy CD Creator. Don't burn audio CD's higher than 44.1 kHz even if the app lets you; 44.1 kHz is the standard spec for audio CD's. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:8/12/2004 7:59:47 AM
What type of DVD are you trying to burn? If you want to burn finished audio tracks to a DVD and put it into a DVD player and have it play, then DVD architect will be your best bet for the money. If you want to put your finished tracks onto a DVDrom then Nero v6.0 might be your best bet. Unfortunately, there are many different DVD formats like this. If you can tell us exactly what you're trying to do and expecting, when you get the final mix burned onto DVD then we can better answer your question. |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/12/2004 3:33:27 PM
Good question. I haven't thought things through. For DVD I was really thinking about backing up data. Storing projects rather than finished audio. I hadn't thought about making an audio DVD only CD. So DVD for data and CD for Audio. I have Vegas 4.0 and the version I have came with DVD architect. I Haven't used it. I just reinstalled my system and have yet to complete adding software. I had a horrible experience with Nero rewriting the names of my tracks when making CDs. Nero Help were arrogant and unhelpful. I'm loathe to go near Nero again. Has anyone used RecordNow 7.0? I liked the interface of the earlier version. but had an issue whereby for preview it would insist on using Windows Media Player rather than Winamp. I guess the direction I'm moving in is semi-pro (and I've a long way to go). This is more than just a hobby for me, but I don't know much. Thanks, Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:8/12/2004 4:08:15 PM
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Nero. I do agree, their technical support is something less than desireable, but the product is one of the best CD/DVD burning programs I have ever used. I've used v5.0,v5.5, and now v6.0 of Nero and have never seen the problem you described. Nero is written by Ahead software, which is based in Germany. So I think the lack of support and documentation, sometimes can be contributed to language barriers. If you'ld like to give Nero another chance, I'ld be willing to try and assist you with your original problem if you could give more details, of what you mean by it is changing the names. Again, you say burning a CD, so I'm a little confused as to the type of CD. Is is an audio CD, or a CDrom? If it's an audio CD, I will have to assume you are talking about the CDtext feature, and maybe it's something simple you're not doing. If it's a CDrom, and it's changing the file names, then this is definately a problem, but maybe it could be a problem if you are not selecting the proper file naming properties under the "ISO" tab. Again though, if you feel up to narrowing down that problem, I will gladly try and assist you and hopefully get you back on track and get your faith back in Nero. Another software I would recommend if you're totally fed up with Nero is CDRwin by Golden Hawk technologies. It's very inexpensive and has worked well for me. They have added DVD-R burning tools in v3.9. Visit www.goldenhawk.com for more details. I understand the frustrations of being fed up with a certain product though. I've pulled out many hairs and created many CD coasters using Easy CD Creator in the past. Maybe that has changed, but I'm very reluctant to even look at that software again and since Nero has done a good job for me, I haven't had a need to look back. At least one good thing in considering Nero v6.0 is that you have an upgrade path discount price since you own v5.0. You can get v6.0 for a $50 upgrade. |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:8/12/2004 4:19:13 PM
Nero 6.3.1.17 Here for CD/DVD roms So far no problems in two years. George Ware |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/13/2004 3:06:33 AM
Ar!g! I was just spellchecking my reply when FireFox crashed. I lost the lot. This is a shortened version! Thanks for the offer of trying to resolve my Nero problems. Version 5.0 was fine but it couldn't find the new DVD drive that I bought. V5.5 and V6 (demo) could see the drive but hacked up the name of wav files. The front half went in the author field and the back half in the track title. This is what Nero Support had to say: ---------------------------------- There is no way to change the behavior of the way Nero parses the track information. I would suggest using the naming scheme "Artist - Title.mp3 That will correctly parse your track information: Example: "Unknown artist - ants in the pants.mp3" ---------------------------------- I make my own tracks and didn't want to rename them adding my name to the front of the track. Is this the CDtext feature you mentioned? Can it be turned off? I think there may have been miscommunication between myself and Nero Support. I do remember it got very frustrating. Will check out CDRwin Thanks again, Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:8/13/2004 7:13:50 AM
"Is this the CDtext feature you mentioned?" Yes. CD text will write additional information to an audio CD which will include artist name, Cd title, and song title. When you drag a file from the explorer window into the Nero track list window, Nero will attempt to do an automatic entry of artist/song title. This does not change your original file names, this is just the CD text information that will get written to the audio CD once you burn the disk. The text that appears in the "title" column is just the text that will get written to the CD as the track title information. When this CD is played back in a CD player that will diplay "cd text" information, than the name in the title field for that track will be displyed, usually on the LCD of the cd player. If you don't care about havining CD text written to your CD, then there's no need to worry. You can easily change the CD text information by double clicking on the track title and a screen will pop up with a "Track Properties" tab. You can enter text into the "Title" and "Artist" fields. These are the CD text information fields. When you change the information in the "Title" field, this is what will be displayed when you're looking at the track playlist view in Nero. To disable it so Nero doesn't write the CDtext information to your CD, click the burn button. Click on the "Audio CD" tab on the burning window that pops up. Under that tab you will see a check mark with "Write CD TEXT on CD". If you uncheck that box, it will not write any CD text information to the CD. BTW: Nero v6.0 was the first version that allowed you to burn to DVD. v5.5 might recognize your drive and allow you to burn to CD, if you have a combo drive, but it won't allow you to make a DVD rom backup. In v6.0 when you select "new compilation", there is a dropdown box, which says "CD" or "DVD". Select whether you want to burn to CD or DVD and then all the available CD or DVD types will appear that you can burn too. |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/14/2004 2:38:45 AM
I see, thanks for the info. If CDtext is disabled does anything appear in the song title? Old versions just put the name of the track. Without CD text would the title need to be entered manually? Cheers, Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: rjt
Date:8/14/2004 6:37:30 AM
I use Record Now to burn back up data onto DVDs. I have version 6.... came bundled with the DVD burner. Works great. I am surprised to hear that it won't burn higher than 44.1. Generally, I record at 24 bit 44.1 and it records those wavs as back-up just fine. I guess one question is, when you select the type of disk you are burning do you select music or data. If music, it may default to CD "standard"... I think some others do that as well. As I use DVDs strictly (so far) for data storage, it will burn anything. Take Care |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: jardeano
Date:8/14/2004 6:52:33 AM
I agree with Rednroll, nero is an extremely intuitive app,,, as for the cd text,,youy can insert "info in your song via windows media player you can assign your name ,the name of the song etc ..but you have to burn the song to disk via windows media player,, now when you insert your disk and play the song in windows player you see your name etc, on the screen ,, I do this all the time for my clients,,, it's a simple task but makes clients happy,,,,,, |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/14/2004 7:39:42 AM
Thanks for the extra info. Do you think that Winamp will work in the same way as Windows Media Player? Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: jardeano
Date:8/14/2004 9:06:08 AM
I only use windows media player so I can't answer that for ya, but windows media player is free,,,,, |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/15/2004 3:42:28 AM
Oops, misread your post. I thought you were saying that Windows Media Player was sending information to Nero. I downloaded the demo of the latest Nero and discover that I can make a playlist in Winamp save it as a .m3u file and import it directly into Nero. I had the CDtext enabled and burned a CD. I was hoping that the information would be readable regardless of the player but it wasn't. Perhaps I did something wrong, or am hoping for too much. I can burn a CD directly from Winamp and when I play the CD using Winamp it gives a proper track listing. But Windows Media Player doesn't give any information but track 1, track 2 etc. I suspect if I burn a CD with Windows Media Player I'll find the same thing. Only Windows Media Player will be able to read the track information. I'd like it so that regardless of the Player the track information is readable.. Perhaps this is a limitation of the format I was using. I was using WAV. If I used MP3 format would the track information be universal? I get lost pretty easily when it comes to different file formats and track information. Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:8/15/2004 10:41:59 AM
No the format doesn't matter if it started off as .MP3 or .WAV. Like I previously said, it's the information you enter in the CDTEXT fields that get written as CDTEXT. The limitation is the PLAYER, must support CDTEXT features, or your CDrom, if it doesn't then the CDtext information on the CD get's ignored. It's a dual operation feature, thus you must have software that will allow you to burn the CDTEXT information (ie Nero) and you must have a PLAYER that is able to read the CDtext information and display it. Most car stereos have CDtext feature, and you may even see a "Text" button to push to view the information on the display. |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/15/2004 3:40:25 PM
Thanks, does Windows Media Player have CDtext? if so, I must have done something wrong as no text showed up when I play a CD burned with Nero with Windows Media Player (nor with Winamp). Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: jardeano
Date:8/15/2004 8:15:19 PM
in windows media player import you song into the media library ,then you have to type in what you want under title,artist,album,genre,,left click on the title or artist etc and you will see it change then right click in the black window that is outlining the song ,then click on edit ,,now you can type in the info ,,then burn to disk,,, this is not considered "cd-text" ,,,, a true definition of cd-text is what rednroll explained to you |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: knowbody
Date:8/16/2004 8:06:14 AM
Not sure I get this. I'm talking about a CD that has already been burnt with CDtext in Nero. Are you saying that Windows Media Player can't read these discs and it is necessary to re-enter the information again in Windows Media Player? Chris |
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Subject:RE: OT Can anyone recommend CD/DVD burning software
Reply by: jardeano
Date:8/16/2004 8:38:08 AM
yes,,, you have to write the info ,,as I explained to you ,,try it ,,,,,, after you burn the disk in windows media player when you insert your disk and play it through windows media player you will see the info you typed in,,,,,,,,, since most people have windows media player , I find it a useful workaround,, |