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Subject:When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Posted by: Halycon
Date:7/26/2004 10:24:32 AM

Anyone know when Sony plans to drop a new Acid 5.0? Im starting to have to switch to other software programs, simply b/c the currecnt 4.0 is quite old, and lacking in the new feautures department. ANyone know anything about them testing, or even trying to create a new 5.0? Im kind of upset its taken them this long... thanks for the help

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:7/26/2004 11:20:59 AM

Oh, no, not another thread. ;o)

What is it that ACID (Pro?) 4.0 can't do for you at the present moment?

Trust me when I say they are working on 5.0; if you lurk long enough around here you would find out they were.

Iacobus
-------
RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/26/2004 12:03:51 PM

" Im starting to have to switch to other software programs, simply b/c the currecnt 4.0 is quite old, and lacking in the new feautures department."

Funny!

Mario

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:7/26/2004 12:47:39 PM

This was Halycon's third post, but I can see he or she has already figured out what this forum is for: A new version!

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:7/26/2004 2:19:31 PM

> simply b/c the currecnt 4.0 is quite old

I find that keep the CD in the refrigerator next to the box of baking soda helps preserve its freshness. ;-)

~jr

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/26/2004 7:58:24 PM

it is funny, ableton is starting to become the software of choice, 4.0 is just to dull, and old at this point.

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:7/26/2004 8:42:49 PM

"How do i use plug-ins that ive downloaded from other sites? Reverb, distortion plug-ins that dont orginally come with acid? How do i use those, and what folder do i install them too? The vsti folder cant scan them, and i cant add them to my plug-in chain. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks"

Yea I think ableton would be a better choice for you

George Ware

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: coolout
Date:7/27/2004 7:26:48 AM

agreed

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: zendar
Date:7/27/2004 7:44:06 AM

it doesnt really matter what features ableton adds in my opinion...i tried it and couldnt really make it work for me in the ultra-quick and simple way that acid does, so i'm sticking with acid. too many programs are too overblown these days, i just want a quick workflow

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: BarryBond
Date:7/27/2004 7:50:40 AM

Damn, what's the deal with some of you. Sonic Foundry will come out with Acid 5 when they're ready.

I only check this forum about twice a month and everytime, out of the first 10 threads 3 of them are "When's Acid 5 coming out." Give it a rest. Talk about someing more productive than the same old drivel. We use Acid 4 at work all the time for all of our projects and it works fine.

-b

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:7/27/2004 8:26:41 AM

> i tried it and couldnt really make it work for me in the ultra-quick and simple way that acid does,

Same here. Ableton was way too complex to do a simple task. i.e., make music! I haven’t seen anything with a workflow as simple as ACID’s.

~jr

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/27/2004 10:53:28 AM

i guess itw oudl boy george... its a little more complicated, but much better results in the end... you should try it sometime. ;)

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:7/27/2004 11:32:30 AM

What?

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/27/2004 12:33:06 PM

Halycon...is that a shot directed at George Ware??
TOO FUNNY!! LOL!

Tell you what forum newbie...when George Ware starts saying that Acid is getting old and it's time to freshen it up, THEN I'll figure it must be so.

Mario

Edit: How about Halycon, you upload your best project created with Acid to Acid Planet with a link for us to follow? I'm sure it must be incredible! Then let us know what Live (or any other app) feature could have helped make a better project if it was available in AP 4.0.
Seems like a fair offer, no?

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:7/27/2004 12:56:36 PM

Again, Halycon, I ask:

What is it that ACID (Pro?) 4.0 can't do for you at the present moment?

Can we have an example?

Iacobus
-------
RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: waynegee
Date:7/28/2004 2:34:49 PM

"What is it that ACID (Pro?) 4.0 can't do for you at the present moment?"

Oh boy, I hate to jump in here, especially when I was not being addressed (and I hope I don't get flamed to death...) but how I interpret the growing discontent with no new product (and SonyFo's arrogant, ongoing, petulant silence about said product) is that some of us who are making a living with these products have had to find sometimes cumbersome, inconvenient tricks, workarounds or just use other software products in adjunct to our beloved ACID/Vegas to get results that other software has built in. But I love the flow and ease of SF products so I'm not gonna shift totally...yet. I do and will continue to use this hodge-podge of tools until I find one that can do MOST of what I need (nuthin' yet is going to satisfy all of my needs but I'm always looking...).

So, it's really not a matter of ACID 4.0 not performing now...sure, it does what it does great but I wanna know am I going to have to keep using my tricks and hacks and is it gonna get a little easier for me. I'm not gonna point out what those needs are because, as one person, my needs are inconsequential to SonyFo and may not be the needs of the masses so it just comes off as whining. Sometimes the needs are addressed in other ways, like needing better MIDI features but the inclusion of REWIRE, while not what I was hoping for, turned out to be a great boon to my workflow. So there it is, I'm not trying to speak for everyone but we are all very anxious to see what's up...some will love it, some will bitch and some will jump ship...not because they don't love what ACID is/was but because they are tired of hacks and tricks.

Please don't flame me....

JM2C,
WG-

Subject:smell that?
Reply by: waynegee
Date:7/28/2004 2:45:02 PM

...I'm married...I get flamed enough...hee.

Subject:RE: smell that?
Reply by: SonyJennL
Date:7/28/2004 3:34:56 PM

Just a quick response to waynegee's message about not wanting to whine.

If you are feeling that the product is not working well for you or that it's missing a feature, please do tell us. We don't read minds and it's the best way for us to know how our user base if feeling. (Yes, we got the memo on the want for an ACID 5 release... <g>)

We do take comments into account when discussing features for future versions. We also sit down and look at the responses we've gotten from the Product Suggestion form (You can find it under the Support catagory).

-Jenn

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: forlornsoul
Date:7/28/2004 4:12:10 PM

Ableton Live complex? Yes. Hard to use? Not if you have been using it as everything has a learning curve, some much easier than others. I bought Live 3.0.2 and upgraded to 3.0.4 and then to 4.0.1 just the other night and I went through the first tutorial in the help menu and MAN! Talk about some damn cool stuff you can do with clips/loops, midi, etc...in realtime. I am glad I got this because I was also getting tired of waiting for Acid 5.0 to come out. When it does I may upgrade but currently I don't see a need because I have Acid 4.0f and Sound Forge 7.0a as other tools to use. I would suggest those to look at the Live demo as it is a pretty cool piece of software. The stuff you can do with clips/loops/midi in realtime is pretty amazing....They finally added in some cool midi support and stuff into 4.0. My buddy has been using it since 1.0 and has been telling me for a year that I should check into it. I did and so far (just got it yesterday and did the upgrades/updates) it is blowing me away/my mind here. Lots (and I mean LOTS) of possibilities with this thing.

Still will usa Acid as/if needed.

Mike

Subject:RE: smell that?
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:7/28/2004 5:08:43 PM

waynegee,
No flame for you!

I think the problem is that there is acyually not an outcry from acid users. These threads are being led - for the most part - by people who have not been posting here for very long and who do not know how to use what they have. When you see one of these posts, just check the history of the person posting. It will tell you a lot. Now I am not saying someone doesn't have validity unless they have a lot of posts. Just look at the persons other posts.

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/28/2004 10:08:29 PM

Did you sniff to much glue as a child? Obviously alot of you are a little older in yoru thinking... but just b/c its not broken, doesnt mean its not time for a new, updated, better version. I expected some intelligent conversation, but instead i get the senior mentality of "If it aint broke, dont fix it" kind of thing. If you dont have anything to say, that directly ties in with the question I had asked above, then please, dont take time to write on here. I could do without the old man mentality. So, for the only person who can seem to help me in my quest for information about a new version of Acid, SonyJennL, can you give me any information. Thanks

Subject:RE: actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: buckaroo
Date:7/29/2004 2:36:16 AM

Wayngee

Totally agree.. Things like the MIDI, and VST support dont seem to work right , so an updated bells and whistles, Acid 5 would be great!!

Just need to know.... WHEN?? lol

(ducks rotten fruit and bottles thrown at him..)

Subject:RE: smell that?
Reply by: forlornsoul
Date:7/29/2004 8:24:03 AM

What does prior posting have to do with what a person says? I read posts here and only reply if I have input on someones problem or thoughts on using another product in place of waiting on Acid 5. I am not using this in a true pro-environment but it is being used for my music project. I take offense with your inference about "look at their prior posts" comment as that was sort of a low blow.


Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:7/29/2004 8:32:38 AM

> I expected some intelligent conversation, but instead i get the senior mentality of "If it aint broke, dont fix it" kind of thing.

Halycon,

Before you get the wrong impression of those of us on this forum, let me explain why you got the reception you did. There have been several recent hot threads where the question of “when is ACID 5 coming out?” has been beaten to death. In fact, it was beaten to death several times but it just won’t lie down. Just when we move on to more productive posts, you come in with the question: “When the hell is 5.0 coming out???”

Had you found the search link at the top of the page, you would not have need to ask this question and would have had several nights of interesting reading to keep you amused. You would have also found that Sony has stated that they are working on ACID 5 and it will be done when it’s done. In fact, you don’t even need to search. Some of them like "2 1/2 years and still no update!" are still on the first page of posts.

So I apologize for giving you a sarcastic answer. You might want to apologize for not doing a search before asking a question on a forum that has been answered a number of times. (its just good forum etiquette to do a search first before posting to a forum you are new to). But we still luv ya’ and we’re not that old.

What you did was the equivalent of going on the Sound Forge forum and asking how to remove vocals from a song. (trust me on this one... you don’t want to do that) If you ever want to have a good laugh, search the Sound Forge forum for “remove vocals”. You will pee your pants reading some of the flames.

This one, which is a spoof, was particularly funny. ;-)

~jr

Subject:RE: actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:7/29/2004 12:08:32 PM

OK, let me rephrase then:

What is it that ACID (Pro?) 4.0 can't do for you specifically at the present moment?

You mention hacks and tricks. Can I have an example of a hack or a trick?

I'm just nitpicking here, but can we stop with the "SonyFo" reference? Sonic Foundry no longer has stake in the products (but they retained the very same teams that worked on the products). They're Sony Pictures Digital's now.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page
Guitars 4 Kids

Subject:ummm,
Reply by: waynegee
Date:7/29/2004 2:56:24 PM

well, as I've said - I'm not going to get into my own selfish needs and how they have spawned my own workarounds (def: hacks and tricks...sorry if I offended anyone with this term...) but all one has to do is take look at the request list and you'll probably find a "workaround" for eack bullet point on the list.(from VST Freeze to multi-output VSTi support to better MIDI tools to punch-in and out on the same track to...well, you get the point). And like I said, I used ACID daily on everything...just wanna know if it's gonna get easier (...wit' my lazy ass...;0) )

"I'm just nitpicking here, but can we stop with the "SonyFo" reference? Sonic Foundry no longer has stake in the products (but they retained the very same teams that worked on the products). They're Sony Pictures Digital's now."

yes, I know...and since the same Sonic Foundry team is still in place for the most part, it is and will always be Sonic Foundry for me. Sonic Foundry is dead! Long live Sonic Foundry! So, no...SonyFo it is...deal with it.

Subject:RE: ummm,
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:7/29/2004 4:11:08 PM

> well, as I've said - I'm not going to get into my own selfish needs and how they have spawned my own workarounds

waynegee,

Why are you avoiding the question? You even got Sony to acknowledge you and ask for specifics. Why won’t you give them specifics? Just a simple list of:

1. ACID can’t do this: so I do this workaround
2. ACID can’t do that: so I do this workaround
3. ACID can’t do the other thing: so I do this workaround

You are not helping anyone with by stating that these are your selfish needs and you won’t discuss them. They are all our needs. If you want to see new features added to ACID that suit your personal needs, you must discuss them and explain them to the development team. Otherwise, you probably won’t get what you want because Sony does know what "hacks and tricks" you are talking about.

OK, I’ll start:

1. ACID has no click track so I have to drop a click wave on the timeline before I start recording (I use a wave of the metronome from Vegas) ;-)
2. ACID has no pre-roll so I have to constantly edit my MIDI tracks to remove the measure of silence while I sync to the beat before recording
3. ACID has no punch-in/punch-out so I have to constantly record new tracks and delete old ones to fix a loop I’ve recorded

Are any of these severe enough for me to want to spend hundreds of dollars on Ableton Live and learn a completely new interface. NO!

OK, waynegee. Your turn. Go:

~jr

Subject:RE: actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: Cquence777
Date:7/29/2004 4:20:04 PM

Ok, for starters, let me say hello to all. I am new here. If you check my profile you will see no other posts...this is the first. Now will that make this post less valid? Also, I may drift back & forth to some of the other threads I have read in the Acid forums.

See, the problem that I have seen in these forums (have been a watcher for a little while) is that people want communication. Plain and simple.
For a super-power company of "anything" to tell it's clients & supporters that it cannot give an estimated time of when a product will drop.....well, that is just BS. Marketing & "drop dates" have their own set of rules yes, but you would think this was an FBI response forum or something! You need a Top Secret clearance to get any info at all regarding product. There is little or no "actual correspondance" between client and Sony in these forums. The little bit that someone (from Sony) does write is to say "we heard ya we heard ya". That is not good business in my opinion. Henceforth, sets the tone for posts to follow. It would be different if we were talking about responding to thousands of e-mails....but we're not....we're talking about 1 simple timeline hint. "Sooner rather than Later" doesn't qualify in my opinion.....and especially after forum users had to almost pull weapons to get that!!

Now, what does Acid 4.0f "not" do?? Well, I can't say alot that hasn't already been stated in these forums.....but....I can tell ya my main example of what it can't do. It cannot fix itself of a rewire failure (error 904) without an update or extensive bug repair!
I've installed....reinstalled....deinstalled....reinstalled...and all the hoopla that one might tell ya to do. Nothing! Read around these forums and see that many will tell ya they stick with 3.0 for stability reasons. No, not everyone experiences these instabilities I know...but I have been looking for an update for quite a while to fix legitimate problems! So why won't we get such? Oh, because 5.0 is "somewhere in the future mix from Sony" and "true" support for 4.0 has long since faded.

Also, I can tell ya that these forums are definitely NOT the place that underground "crack searchers" hang out. Now don't try to read between the lines there or you may end up with a very wrong assumption about me. I'm simply saying that this place is comprised of true supporters and license holders of Acid for the greatest part. And these are the people that deserve a timeline on product "drop".

Another voice here stated the term "hacks and tricks" and seemed to get some ruffled a bit. Well, he's right!
VST effects are nonexistent....but one "can" get a wrapper.
MIDI real-time quantize is nonexistent.....but one "can" slow the very flow of creativity down to a mere halt by moving to a different window, highlighting data, selecting options (which will not remember later), and then finally.....quantizing data.
Rewire slave?
MTC slave?
Metronome?
Lead In?
Punch in and out?
Remember settings under record options?
crash errors every time I try to work on a new project??

See, I'm not unhappy with Acid or it's makers. In fact, I'm quite taken by what it can do! I just want a bit more and I think others do too. We're all looking forward to 5.0's release....some for more features, some for more stability, and some for both. I just don't see why Sony can't respond with some form of a legimate timeline and then guess what? You wouldn't have anyone "leading" posts because there would be no reason to continue with "Acid 5.0 release" threads!

Just my opinion,
Thanx for listening,
C

Subject:RE: actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/29/2004 6:05:46 PM

Cquence, i could not have said it better myself. I really didnt feel the need to write out my opinions (which happen to be just like yours down to the T), and my motives behind them, when it seemed irrelevant to what i was asking. So thank you, you hit it right on the nose. As a Sony consumer, and as a person who relies on the newest of technology in my field, information, and feedback of when updates are expected, and what kind, is always an incentive of staying with a company. ONce again, anyone with information on this specific subject, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Subject:RE: actually, that view is not quite right...
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:7/29/2004 7:53:36 PM

Dude...

>>>my main example of what it can't do. It cannot fix itself of a rewire failure (error 904) without an update or extensive bug repair!<<<

Please explain the exact steps it takes to reproduce this.

What software+version? Acid 4.0f>>>Reason 2.5? etc...
Computer specs+OS +tweaks done.
How big of a project involved?
Type of audio settings of acid project? Number of busses,24bit/44.1?
What happens to acid after the crash?

EVERYTHING.

Point being a beta tester is tired as is and shouldn't have to do a search in the forums for this. Please provide a link or a repro on your system.

Ed.

Subject:amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: waynegee
Date:7/29/2004 8:26:13 PM

...amen...

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/29/2004 8:40:15 PM

"Also, I can tell ya that these forums are definitely NOT the place that underground "crack searchers" hang out."

Really? Where did you get that info?
Here's a scoop...they do!

After my very first post on these forums I received an e-mail from someone asking for my serial number (e-mail addresses were shown at the time). So please, don't tell me they don't hang out here. Also, over the years, there's been a few "I lost my serial number, can you give me one?" posts.

Mario

PS: As far as the rest of your post...thanks for being one of the very few that takes the time to explain the shortcomings clearly.
As a side note, totally unrelated... Don't you just love those comic relief guys in movies that always show up after someone has said something smart, and says "What HE said!" ;-)

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/29/2004 10:52:46 PM

Your a jackass...

(waiting for someone to say " what he said")

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/30/2004 5:53:39 AM

"I really didnt feel the need to write out my opinions..., and my motives behind them, when it seemed irrelevant to what i was asking."
Irrelevent to what you were asking??
I'd love to see you take your car to the mechanic's..."My car doesn't work right." Mech says "What's wrong with it?" You reply "What do you want to know that for?"
You're telling Sony their software is getting old and lacking in new features.
The least you could do is tell them how the shortcomings are affecting your workflow and how X,Y orZ could help you.
You didn't. Someone else took the time to detail it, then you say "What HE said."
If you want this product to move ahead, Sony, believe it or not, would LOVE for you to detail shortcomings and ask for features. They even have a PRODUCT SUGGESTION section under SUPPORT where you can ask for different features and how they would help you. They even had a thread asking this very question a few months ago.
Try a little role reversal...
You created a software program, it works great and Pros are using it successfully. Now someone sends you an e-mail and writes; Your app is getting old and missing needed features. That's it, end of e-mail.
Wouldn't you have wanted more info??
Cquence777's post comes across as coming from someone who uses the software and would like to see it continue to evolve (hopefully in a direction that will help his workflow), whereas yours comes across as whining.

What's the use... You probably don't get what I'm trying to get across to you.
There's a small "ignore this user" tab beside my username. Feel free to clic on it.

Mario

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: waynegee
Date:7/30/2004 6:59:02 AM

yeah...what she said.

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: merlyn60
Date:7/30/2004 11:15:53 AM

Just my opinion, but if there is a function that hasn't been asked for in the original "What Do You Want In Acid 5" thread, chances are it's something like "make Acid climb out of my computer and do the chicken dance on one leg while eating sushi". Flaming someone because he didn't take the time to state something that has already been stated, re-stated, and then taken to the third power request-wise is a bit silly to me. In addition, we're all adults (or close to them I'm assuming), so we should act like it and lay off the name calling. Just my opinion which no asked for.

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/30/2004 12:21:33 PM

Once again, if you cant answer my question directly then dont reply. Its useless. There are few people on here who understand, and use the product as much as i do. Who understand, what the rest of the market has to offer with updated feautures, and products. I suggest you take sometime aside to find out for yourself, b/c your not going to get me to type out some long drawn out essay about what is, and what isnt, out dated. Ill save that for the Product Suggestion sheet. For now though, if someone would kindly provide a link to some information for the ones who are intrested in a better, more advanced version, that woudl be greatly appreicated.

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: merlyn60
Date:7/30/2004 12:57:54 PM

Halycon: The simple answer to your question is that there is no information on Acid 5 available to the public at this point in time. The only ones who have any insight on Acid 5, besides company workers, are the beta testers (if there are any) and they can't say anything until Sony says they can.

P.S. My last post agreed with you. Not sure if you caught that. I think you only caught the name calling part!

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: Halycon
Date:7/30/2004 1:29:58 PM

Yes, i noticed you agreed. My comments were directed towards Myst. Sorry if it seemed i was replying to you.

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/30/2004 2:01:17 PM

"...he didn't take the time to state something that has already been stated, re-stated, and then taken to the third power request-wise is a bit silly to me."

Sorry, but I disagree.
The more a feature is requested, the higher priority it becomes.
When's the last time a feature (not just a bug fix) was added in an update? I'm talking updates, not new versions.
Version 4 got Rewire in an update. Why? The requests for it were overwhelming.
So, please, if you truly want Acid to evolve, and address your concerns, explain clearly why this version is becoming outdated. It's really for YOUR best interest.

Mario

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:7/30/2004 2:32:16 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........ooooohhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm. "MEDITATION" sooths the soul. If that doesn't work, try "MEDICATION".

Peace :-)

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: jardeano
Date:7/30/2004 3:01:09 PM

"ohhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........ooooohhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm. "MEDITATION" sooths the soul. If that doesn't work, try "MEDICATION".



now that is funny...........LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

what medication do you prescribe? please don't tell me it's prozac 5.0......

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:7/30/2004 7:18:16 PM

"please don't tell me it's prozac 5.0......"

Actually it's Viagra 5.0. It's the medication that makes everyone happy and excited about a new "release". :-)

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: MyST
Date:7/30/2004 7:23:37 PM

Yeah, well you'd be happy and excited too when your release came if it's two and a half years between each one!

Mario

Subject:RE: amen, brother...(N/T)
Reply by: PixelStuff
Date:7/30/2004 8:02:49 PM

Boy. I sure am glad this thread was created. I thought ACID 4.0f was a flawless program. I know better now though. I'll have to start looking around for those hacks and fixes to ... fix something.

JBJones

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: Tommy_boy
Date:8/2/2004 8:07:01 PM

I can tell you the one and only feature that I want that version 4 is sorely lacking. ReWire SLAVE support.

Implementing ReWire HOST in Acid was a complete waste for me and many others who already have a dedicated DAW that they use extensively.

I use Cubase SX for all mixing and Wavelab for mastering. I don't like mixing or mastering in ACID. It doesn't have the functionality or smooth workflow of either of these two Steinberg programs. However, these programs don't have the ease of changing tempo/pitch that ACID does.

Currently I shuttle back and forth between the programs. I stretch and pitch shift in ACID, then export wave files to SX (as do many others). This topic has come up several times on the Cubase forums.

Even better than ReWire SLAVE support would be the ability to use ACID as a VSTi.

ACID is slipping and the lack of updates is not good. For the reasons I just mentioned lots of folks are switching to Live, using Cakewalk Project 5, or trying to use PhatmaticPro (although this has been discountinued on the PC.

So I reiterate the original question, when the hell is 5.0 coming out?

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: zendar
Date:8/4/2004 4:55:30 AM

when is acid 6.0f due? i need to know so i can organize my schedule

Subject:RE: When the hell is 5.0 coming out???
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:8/4/2004 5:16:09 AM

> when is acid 6.0f due?

I believe its schedule to arrive just after 6.0e, which fixes the “ACID won’t read my mind” bug. Unfortunately it introduces the nasty, "I can’t get ACID out of my head" bug. (you will be assimilated) ;-)

~jr

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