Subject:attack time

Posted by: quadjacks

Date:7/19/2004 4:03:58 PM

are there any rules of thumb, standards, protocols or just good starting points for rookies, for this level in the multi-band dynamics compressor?

i am recording 5-16 channels at once, via my pc sound card(1 input). all one mix, cant afford a multi channel recorder yet. so there are a lot of things to take into account, 4 or more mics, 2 key boards, bongoes, drum set...etc. also i record voice, minister preaching without any musical instruments.

i can imagine there are different mastering settings for voice only recording oppose to record a 16 channels mix. can some one help me. REDNROLL???

AND while we're at it, can some one also apply this ??? release time ???

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:7/20/2004 1:39:22 AM

Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of experience with the Sony Multiband dynamics. I've tried it in the past, before I owned my TC Finalizer hardware multiband compressor. I find the User Interface is not that friendly, which is an oxy moron for the Sony apps, because usually their stuff has the best UI available. Not the case for the multiband dynamics in my opinion. I have used "Izotope Ozone", and Ultrafunk's "multiband :R3". Both of these have a good UI and sound better than the Sony multiband dynamics. My multiband processor of choice is my TC Finalizer. The Sony multiband dynamics needs a visual display that shows the division of the bands, along with the knee of each crossover. It also has no adjustment for the filter order for a lowpass or highpass filter. I could give you starting point settings for each band, that I use for my TC Finalizer, but I'm not sure how well they will translate to settings in the Sony multiband dynamics plugin, because it just seems too confusing to me and I have no visual feedback to show me it's doing what I intend it to do.

Sorry, I couldn't be more help.

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: quadjacks

Date:7/20/2004 6:35:57 PM

so you're saying i should try TC Finalizer?? is this software or hardware ??

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: RiRo

Date:7/20/2004 6:46:48 PM

dbM-Multi-band limiter is a decent low-budged plug that does a nice job. The Ultrafunk multiband compressor is better, but more difficult to use. I plugged some TC-Finalizer presets into my db-M plug and it sounds nice. Maybe not what the finalizer would... but nice and way less money.

RiRo

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: rraud

Date:7/21/2004 1:13:34 PM

FYI:
The Ultrafunk plug-in series was acquired by Cakewalk. Unfortunatly they do not support or offer the Ultrafunk plugs without purchasing Cakewalk. Too bad.

As for the original question: EXPERMENT

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:7/22/2004 5:49:46 AM

"so you're saying i should try TC Finalizer?? is this software or hardware ??"

I highly recommend the TC Finalizer. It is hardware, and it's not cheap. About $1500. It will amaze you the first time you use it though. Just by running your unmastered material through a preset will give you some pretty impressive results. Once you're able to dig into it and learn all the adjustments, is when you'll become a good mastering engineer. DBX's Quantum II is another good processor similar to the finalizer.

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: quadjacks

Date:7/24/2004 6:15:13 AM

so when you say hardware... what exactly do you mean ??

Subject:RE: attack time

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:7/24/2004 6:48:46 AM

It's an external unit that does not get connected to a PC. It has it's own audio inputs and outputs, along with it's own processing power. My typical signal path is mixed audio from either a DAT player or CD player, let's say CD player for this example. So the digital out of the CD player get's connected to the digital input of the Finalizer. The spdif digital output of the finalizer gets connected to the digital input on my PC sound card and the AES digital out get's connected to my mixing board, which is connected to my monitors so I can hear everything. Sound Forge or my spectral Analyzer are looking at the digital input of my sound card. I hit play on the CD player, and make mastering adjustments using the Finalizer, where I can hear all the adjustments I make using the Finalizer and get visual level feedbacks using the VU meter in Sound Forge, and spectral feedback using my spectral analizer software. (spectralab).

Visit Tc electronics webpage for more info on the finalizer:
WWW.TCELECTRONIC.COM

Visit DBX's website on the Quantum II:
www.DBXPRO.com