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Subject:Normalization Posted by: Hummingbird Date:6/26/2004 8:04:50 AM I'm still using SF5.0. Usually, I normalize in stereo, but occasionally see a file in which the levels are markedly different between the left and right tracks. Using stereo normalization retains these differences, so I would like to normalize each track separately. After I scan and normalize one track, I then scan the other. However, this second scan simply reports the normalization level of the already normalized track. If I start over, and reverse the order of the tracks, the same thing happens. In other words, the second scan seems to pick up the level of both tracks combined regardless of the fact that I am trying to scan them separately. I'm obviously missing something here. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks
Subject:RE: Normalization Reply by: Geoff_Wood Date:6/28/2004 4:44:54 AM By 'tracks' I assume you mean 'channels'. If you normalise each separately, you are going to totally f*@k up stereo imaging. geoff
Subject:RE: Normalization Reply by: Hummingbird Date:6/28/2004 7:01:35 AM Geoff - The stereo imaging is already out-of-whack - that's why I want to adjust the normalization separately. My question is simply, what am I doing wrong that causes me to NOT be able to normalize the tracks (channels) separately? If I save the file, then re-open it, I can only then normalize the remaining track (channel). Hummingbird
Subject:RE: Normalization Reply by: Rednroll Date:6/28/2004 8:12:55 AM It sounds like you're doing it correctly. Just to be sure are you selecting each track seperately when you do the individual scans? I don't remember what version, but there was a bug that would not process individual tracks properly, it got fixed in an update, so you might want to go to the updates page and make sure you have the latest 5.0 version installed. Also, when you do the scan make sure it is scanning the entire file. If you get the same scan value try clicking the "scan" button, after you're sure you have the proper track selected and only that track. Geoff said: "By 'tracks' I assume you mean 'channels'." Actually Geoff, his terminology is correct. Many people wrongly interchange the terms track/channel. A stereo file is a 2 track recording, it's not a 2 channel recording. It can be played through 2 channels though. The easiest way to keep things straight is to think of the audio as being recorded onto TRACKS. Where "channels" are the strips on your mixing board that allow you to adjust the levels of your tracks. A mixing board has channels, audio get's recorded onto audio "tracks", but played through channels, thus you can say the "left channel of my monitors"
Subject:RE: Normalization Reply by: Hummingbird Date:6/28/2004 7:33:32 PM Rednroll - Thanks for the advice to check up on a more recent version of the software. I'll certainly do that. Actually it's time to upgrade to 7.0, so I'll probably do that, too. Do you happen to know if 7.0 includes the batch converter? Thanks, again - Hummingbird

Subject:Normalization

Posted by: Hummingbird

Date:6/26/2004 8:04:50 AM

I'm still using SF5.0. Usually, I normalize in stereo, but occasionally see a file in which the levels are markedly different between the left and right tracks. Using stereo normalization retains these differences, so I would like to normalize each track separately. After I scan and normalize one track, I then scan the other. However, this second scan simply reports the normalization level of the already normalized track. If I start over, and reverse the order of the tracks, the same thing happens. In other words, the second scan seems to pick up the level of both tracks combined regardless of the fact that I am trying to scan them separately. I'm obviously missing something here. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks

Subject:RE: Normalization

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:6/28/2004 4:44:54 AM

By 'tracks' I assume you mean 'channels'. If you normalise each separately, you are going to totally f*@k up stereo imaging.

geoff

Subject:RE: Normalization

Reply by: Hummingbird

Date:6/28/2004 7:01:35 AM

Geoff - The stereo imaging is already out-of-whack - that's why I want to adjust the normalization separately. My question is simply, what am I doing wrong that causes me to NOT be able to normalize the tracks (channels) separately? If I save the file, then re-open it, I can only then normalize the remaining track (channel).

Hummingbird

Subject:RE: Normalization

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:6/28/2004 8:12:55 AM

It sounds like you're doing it correctly. Just to be sure are you selecting each track seperately when you do the individual scans? I don't remember what version, but there was a bug that would not process individual tracks properly, it got fixed in an update, so you might want to go to the updates page and make sure you have the latest 5.0 version installed. Also, when you do the scan make sure it is scanning the entire file. If you get the same scan value try clicking the "scan" button, after you're sure you have the proper track selected and only that track.

Geoff said:
"By 'tracks' I assume you mean 'channels'."

Actually Geoff, his terminology is correct. Many people wrongly interchange the terms track/channel. A stereo file is a 2 track recording, it's not a 2 channel recording. It can be played through 2 channels though. The easiest way to keep things straight is to think of the audio as being recorded onto TRACKS. Where "channels" are the strips on your mixing board that allow you to adjust the levels of your tracks. A mixing board has channels, audio get's recorded onto audio "tracks", but played through channels, thus you can say the "left channel of my monitors"

Subject:RE: Normalization

Reply by: Hummingbird

Date:6/28/2004 7:33:32 PM

Rednroll - Thanks for the advice to check up on a more recent version of the software. I'll certainly do that. Actually it's time to upgrade to 7.0, so I'll probably do that, too. Do you happen to know if 7.0 includes the batch converter?

Thanks, again - Hummingbird