Need help with tinny, whiney sound -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Need help with tinny, whiney sound Posted by: rusty Date:6/8/2004 4:26:19 PM Hi all, I'm having trouble with our audio -- after I compress our animation for web delivery the sound gets tinny -- like your in a can or like its being feed through a guitar pickup LOL. The dialog and and sound is produced or sweetened in Sound Forge 48 kHz/16 bit in almost all cases (some of the stock sound effects are less) and this is how it goes into Premiere. It sounds okay at this point and I keep the volume levels in the green. I then render from premiere to QuickTime format using uncompressed 48/16/Stereo. Then it goes into Cleaner where I use QDesign Music 2 at 44.1 kHz, Stereo, 16 bit, 48 kbits/s. I should get clear sound using lower settings but it gets really bad if I try this. Sound is not my strong point and I'm sure I'm doing something dumb. Suggestions? Thanks, Rusty
Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound Reply by: Geoff_Wood Date:6/8/2004 7:06:45 PM If the QDesign encoding is anything like MP3, then 48kbps will give you thin tinny sound as you are hearing. 128kbps is more common if you want any semblance of audio quality. geoff
Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound Reply by: Rednroll Date:6/9/2004 7:17:47 AM "48 kbits/s" Yes, 48kb/s is extremely low quality for compression, especially for anything that has other sound aspects besides dialogue. 128kbs is probably the minimum you want to go to preserve sound quality as Geoff said. 192 kbs would be a lot safer.
Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound Reply by: rusty Date:6/11/2004 9:58:47 AM I'm sorry, I use all of the highest setting offered: = In Sound Forge and Premiere: 48000 sample rate/16 bit = In Cleaner for QDesign Music 2:: 44,100 kHz sample rate and 48 kbits/sec in QDesign (again the highest options offered).

Subject:Need help with tinny, whiney sound

Posted by: rusty

Date:6/8/2004 4:26:19 PM

Hi all,

I'm having trouble with our audio -- after I compress our animation for web delivery the sound gets tinny -- like your in a can or like its being feed through a guitar pickup LOL.

The dialog and and sound is produced or sweetened in Sound Forge 48 kHz/16 bit in almost all cases (some of the stock sound effects are less) and this is how it goes into Premiere. It sounds okay at this point and I keep the volume levels in the green. I then render from premiere to QuickTime format using uncompressed 48/16/Stereo. Then it goes into Cleaner where I use QDesign Music 2 at 44.1 kHz, Stereo, 16 bit, 48 kbits/s. I should get clear sound using lower settings but it gets really bad if I try this.

Sound is not my strong point and I'm sure I'm doing something dumb. Suggestions?

Thanks,
Rusty

Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:6/8/2004 7:06:45 PM

If the QDesign encoding is anything like MP3, then 48kbps will give you thin tinny sound as you are hearing. 128kbps is more common if you want any semblance of audio quality.

geoff

Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:6/9/2004 7:17:47 AM

"48 kbits/s"

Yes, 48kb/s is extremely low quality for compression, especially for anything that has other sound aspects besides dialogue. 128kbs is probably the minimum you want to go to preserve sound quality as Geoff said. 192 kbs would be a lot safer.

Subject:RE: Need help with tinny, whiney sound

Reply by: rusty

Date:6/11/2004 9:58:47 AM

I'm sorry, I use all of the highest setting offered:

= In Sound Forge and Premiere: 48000 sample rate/16 bit

= In Cleaner for QDesign Music 2:: 44,100 kHz sample rate and 48 kbits/sec in QDesign (again the highest options offered).