Ah well. That's a kick in the nuts.

Yep. That's a dead-on-too-hard-knock-you-out-cold kick in the nuts. That sucks.

Everyone always looks at the negative side of things....is the glass half empty or half full?

If you look at it on the glass is half full viewpoint, it means that rewire could be in v6.0 of Vegas, and since you never know until the day it's released of when a new verseion will be available, v6.0 could be here next week and you could get a complimentary upgrade because you've just purchased v5.0 within the last month. You see? Things don't look so bad now do they? :-)

I won't complain about it. I just wanted to know!
A lot of people on this forum complain about features not being implemented, and I think alot of it may come from misconceptions as to what to expect from Vegas. We can see that Vegas Video and Vegas Audio are now one. But, what is Vegas Audio really? Time and again we see Peter reiterate that Vegas is simply a NLE. In our case, it is an AUDIO NLE - not a music production program the likes of Sonar, Cubase, Logic, or even Nuendo. These other programs are designed primarily for MUSIC production. They support VSTis, Rewire, MIDI, tempo maps, and everything else you would expect from full blown music production software. While many of us are using Vegas for music production (due to the beauty of the UI and streamlined implementation), it may not be very realistic to expect many of these features simply because they are not what Vegas is intended to be. And, while I continue to use Vegas, I will continue to hold out hope that at least some of these features will find their way into the program eventually.

peace

But what exactly is an NLE ? :)

see

Now if it meant a full function Non Linear Editor, we'd have tempo mapping wouldnt we? Vegas isnt an NLE or a music production app or any of that.

Its just Vegas. As time goes on we see more of the designers' vision, but figuring out what its supposed to ever be is half the fun I guess

<<v6.0 could be here next week and you could get a complimentary upgrade because you've just purchased v5.0 within the last month. You see? Things don't look so bad now do they? :-) >>

jesus christ...sony PLEEEEEEEASE give REDnRoll a job over there.
He's been s**king the sony\sf c*ck for years now. he deserves it by now...right?

Glass half empty???
Blow.
The suggestion of rewire support has GONE ON LONG ENOUGH.
It's obvious Sony\SF are raising the middle finger to this feature (why - know one will ever know...it's "a secret" I guess with SF. Probably to try and con others into buying acid.

Hey I love vegas. I just am another who would LIKE TO SEE THE OBVIOUS IMPLEMENTED.
We have to hear quotes like this from RednHack only because "he" doesn't need it (with all the "extensive audio work" he does).

Sony, PLEEEASE GIVE RED A JOB SO HE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS TIME (rather than regurgitate the common "glass half full speech" daily).

J

<<but figuring out what its supposed to ever be is half the fun I guess >>

No pipe (another here who posts EVERY HOUR ON THE HOUR)...actually it is not "the fun", much less "half the fun".

Getting WORK done in a more efficient manner IS THE FUN.

Try it sometime.

"Getting WORK done in a more efficient manner IS THE FUN."

I gave that up long ago when I first fired up a PC

To be fair the one area where Vegas IS 100% more efficient than anything even close, makes up for the big deficiencies I have with this app.

Your point is well taken, and Im probably near the top of complainers, but I have finally come to understand that points that do not fall within the developers' vision, fall on deaf ears instead. We make the most of what we can with the tool, and we see if we cant nudge that vision a little bit at the same time.

hahaha!!! You are such a f*ckin tool "VegUser". Who the hell are you anyways??? Go home f*cknuts. Or put up YOUR sh*t, pronto. Rednroll and PipelineAudio are two serious cats with plenty of proven credits to their names. I've heard the work of them both and it's SOLID. So why do you quit jerking this forum off, "VegUser", and post your work too while your at it. I smell fish.

Considering all this BS this board has put up with from some of the regulars it is good to hear from a new voice. What has to be said though is that Vegas has become an impressive application for musicians in that its video component offers a means of marketing that goes beyond the standard auditory channels. Now musicians can send music/video files to potential employers or agents that are in many cases more effective than just the audio file. The video component is an unparalleled marketing tool if handled correctly and this applies not just to hopeful top 40 acts without big budgets. A post on the Reason board a few days ago suggested that some applications that try to do to much often dont work very well: thus the introduction of Rewire may render Vegas unstable given the extensive video and audio coding already present(speculation). Given that Vegas is now primarily dependent on the Video user base this would not be worth the chance. I also hope for Rewire implementation but while I wait I'm learning everything I can about the Video portion which represents alot of work. So keep on coming on Veguser and hope we can get Flanneljammies back from Traction(that app.($89) has Rewire and raised the ire of a few users here).

Not a "new voice" at all. VegUser is the infamous JoeD and and is once again offering the forum his unique brand of assistance. Do a search on JoeD to see what I mean. ;-)

drbam

Rewire Acid? so it can be rewired to giga?

What would you guys want to see rewire for in Vegas?

It isn't a sequencing program..... I don't understand .... please enlighten me on what you guys would "rewire" Vegas to. Do you want them to implement a fully functional sequencing and midi editing protocol into the program with rewire? If not, rewire alone would be completely useless.

Good call Drbam!!! It's pretty obvious who Veguser is, and look at Newf too, he was "Flanneljammies". Both trying to reinvent themselves to get some credibility, and then come in with the "breath of fresh air" statements. What a joke. Please children grow up.

who is flanneljammies?

What do you guys want to rewire to?

I'm still curious... ?

Acid to Vegas for me.
If there was a way to transfer raw Acid tracks into Vegas efficiently, or open an Acid project in Vegas, or save an Acid project as a .veg file, that's all I need. I don't really need Rewire per se.
Sony is determined to keep the two programs seperate - which is entirely fine with me, but I would like to take a project from Acid and transfer it to Vegas for adding Vocals and Drums and doing all final mixing.
As it is currently, I rebuild the entire Acid project in Vegas - one track at a time.

*******Acid to Vegas for me.
If there was a way to transfer raw Acid tracks into Vegas efficiently, or open an Acid project in Vegas, or save an Acid project as a .veg file, that's all I need. I don't really need Rewire per se.
Sony is determined to keep the two programs seperate - which is entirely fine with me, but I would like to take a project from Acid and transfer it to Vegas for adding Vocals and Drums and doing all final mixing.
As it is currently, I rebuild the entire Acid project in Vegas - one track at a time.*********

I transfer Acid Tracks in to Vegas and vise versa with incredible efficiency all the time... All you have to do is render a 2 mix of your work from either program, if it's from Vegas.... when you open it in Acid, beatmapper will allow you to apply the acid properties, then "boom", you create your acid elements, render them, and open them up in Vegas. If you're starting with Acid, render your work and let the players perform with a 2 mix when the performances are being captured...

Sometimes I need to record midi at the same time as audio, I dont know if rewire would help with that

Yeah, I see what your saying and I have done the render to 2track sometimes as well. But, for final mixing I want all the elements in Vegas. And since most of my compositions start in Acid, I end up rendering individual tracks from Acid to import into Vegas.

I know that I can lock the two programs with MIDI clock and mix what I have in Acid and transfer the 2track, but Acid isn't the best mixing/editing program and I prefer having the entire project end up in Vegas.

It's not that I can't get by the way it is. I just want it easier! :-)

I agree H2000, there should be an easier way. There's a feature in Acid, which allows you to render individual tracks all at once, which you then have to import each seperate track into Vegas. The funny thing is, is that Vegas doesn't have the same feature to render individual tracks. The only way to do it in Vegas is to create buses for each track, and route a track to it's own bus and then there's a feature to render as .Wav (All buses).

Maybe is there a way to script all tracks to render in vegas?

*********Sometimes I need to record midi at the same time as audio, I dont know if rewire would help with that*********

If you need to do virtual tracking and conventional tracking in a multitrack application, then Vegas is NOT the answer...

Under these circumstances a form (non-conventional) of rewiring would need to be institutionalized within the Sony Media platforms to have Acid & Vegas rewired to buss and sync as a single uniform application...

Now, this would be very cool .....especially if you could continue to rewire to softsynths from Acid at the same time.....

It seems a little bit off the Sony Media application model, though ....

Sonar 3 already does all of this and ironically, works with Acid loops...

Not as fun to mix with though and almost no video capabilities...