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Subject:Acid is great but....
Posted by: superddman
Date:5/18/2004 3:22:47 PM
Hello, Acid is a great "LOOP" based sequencer but there is no convinient and fast way to create loops for it. The only software I know of that can export acidized wav is FL Studio. However, FL studio doesn't provide the streamlined and easy loop creation. Here is why: - when run as vsti or rewire it opens up as a full application which is not needed and takes up lots of screen space - it requires you to switch back and forth between fl and acid - you always have to mute it if you don't want it to play in the background - after you create the pattern in fl, you have to go trough couple menu screens to export it to acidized wav( find project folder, pick file name, change export settings. - after export you have to go back to acid and find that loop and import it into a new track I think there should be a faster way to do this. There should be a plugin or built in tool in acid that has a pattern/step sequencer and two buttons-one to preview the loop, and second to automatically save the loop in the current project's folder as acidized wav and import it into a new track in acid. There are couple more features that it should have but these are the main ones. Don't you think that loop creation process can be improved? |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: schirall
Date:5/18/2004 4:35:01 PM
what i hate is the process you have to go through to get your project into protools,which is what every studio uses. the best thing i found is rendering each track solo'd,which blows because first of all it takes for ever,secondly you have to run through the master fader so it's not your true loop. they should be compatable.then acid will be it for me! |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: Spirit
Date:5/18/2004 6:18:11 PM
Superddman - press ctrl-R in Fl Studio to go direct to render. Also I think what you describe is really only a few keystrokes and is marvellously easy. Wondrously easy in fact. This is the golden age for music production ! You may as well say there should be an easier way to brush teeth. |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:5/19/2004 12:59:15 PM
Adding to what Spirit said, custom loop creation for the most part is a skill. It takes time and effort to produce a good loop. If you want my opinion, it's probably as easy as it's going to get, especially where custom loop creation is concerned. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: spinweb
Date:5/20/2004 1:44:56 PM
Newbie question here.... Can't ACID Pro 4 create loops? |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: musicdog
Date:5/20/2004 1:53:41 PM
Spinweb... You "CREATE" the loop, Acid is only a tool to express that creativity. Musicdog |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:5/20/2004 2:05:49 PM
> Can't ACID Pro 4 create loops? Yep, it sure can. You can create loops from other loops using the Chopper (although you can do it without the chopper too), you can record your own audio loops, or you can record your own MIDI loops. I find loop creation to be quite easy so I’m not sure why others find it so hard. What I do is record a new MIDI track and play my part several times. Then I listen to it back and select my best performance in the Chopper. Then I just select Chop to New Track and I’m done. If I want that as a WAV file I just solo it and do a Render As using Render Looped Region Only. If you started with an audio loop there is no need to render. I can’t imagine it being any easier. ~jr |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: coolout
Date:5/22/2004 12:22:17 AM
amen brother i dare say it's much easier to do this in acid than in protools because you don't have to worry about defining regions, plus protools LE will only stream in realtime unlike acid. |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: gjn
Date:5/23/2004 9:00:42 AM
version french and english proposition pour acid pro. pourquoi ne pas créer un software à module? grâce à la technique "yamaha OPT"? rajouter des modules suivant les besoins de chacun ?serait sympathique. module loops et éditionscomme "acid ,live3.". module midi comme "genesys". module multipistes audio "comme vegas" module édition wave "comme soundforge" module effets "impulses...etc.." ainsi, chacun pourrait avoir le soft qui lui convient. moi ,il me faut acid,vegas et soundforge pour m'en sortir..et je ne suis plus satisfait sur le plan ergonomie. cela est trops lourd. l'ergonomie "de pouvoir étirer le son comme avec melodine est interressant. composer en live comme ableton live 3 ,aussi... acid ne doit pas courir derrière cubase,protools,sonar,samplitude...etc... mais il doit etre toujours novateur en ergonomie. facile à utiliser. avec aujourd'hui plus de temps réel.les pc le permettent. la solution reware est une solution de dépannage. car les soft sont trops différents à utiliser. on perd du temps et la créativité s'en va.. proposal for acid pro. why not create a software with module? thanks to the technique "yamaha OPT"? to add modules according to the needs for each one?it's sympathetic nerve. modulate loops and éditions as"acid, live3.". modulate midifiles as "genesys". module multitrack audio "as vegas" modulate edition wave "as soundforge" modulate "impulses effects... etc.." thus, each one could have the software which is appropriate to him. me,it is necessary acid, vegas for me and soundforge I am not satisfied any more on the ergonomics plan. that is overly heavy. l ergonomy "de to be able to stretch the sound as with melodine is interressant. to compose into live like ableton live 3, also... acid should not run behind cubase,protools,sonar,samplitude... etc... but it must be always an innovator in ergonomics easy to use with today, more reel time.the PC allow it. the solution reware is a solution of breakdown service because the software are too different to use. one wastes time and the creativity s'en goes. sorry for my bad english |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:5/23/2004 1:15:52 PM
Yes, ACID Pro 4.0 (and Screenblast ACID 4.0 for that matter) can help you create original loops of your own design. It's as simple as soloing a track (whether you used "canned" or originally recorded material), setting the Loop Region over a certain area and using CTRL+M with the "render loop region only" option checked. By default, anything from half a second to 30 seconds is turned into a Loop. (Note that overall project tempo and key is applied to this new loop. If your project is 130 BPM in the key of C, your newly rendered loop will be ACIDized with that same tempo and key.) There's more to it, but that's it in a nutshell. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: Acid is great but....
Reply by: spesimen
Date:5/25/2004 2:57:19 PM
schirall "the best thing i found is rendering each track solo'd,which blows because first of all it takes for ever,secondly you have to run through the master fader so it's not your true loop." i think it's easy, it's like one mouse click (render, then click export each file as a separate track). ok that's two mouse clicks. sure it takes a few minutes for it to crunch out the files but who cares? go eat a sandwich while it does it's thing. even on large projects it only takes like 4-5 minutes if you have a good comp and not too many plugs on each track. oh, and if you leave your master fader at unity then it is your true loop, mathematically. if you have a bunch of processing on the master fader, then that sorta defeats the purpose of bouncing out individual tracks to a mxing board anyway doesn't it? |