Rendering Files (save edit history) -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Rendering Files (save edit history) Posted by: Pauken Date:4/22/2004 10:04:18 AM I have been unable to sucessfully use a process such as PAN or VOLUME ENVELOPE, render the file as a WAV file and recover the work when I reopen the saved file. When I reopen the WAV file, no work was saved; only the original file with no changes. I can find the .frg file which shows the volume or pan envelopes (and I need to reactivate the functionality of the envlopes EACH TIME using the PLUG IN CHAINER --ENABLE ALL-- before they will work), but I cannot create a new WAV file which keeps my work. Help? Thanks!
Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history) Reply by: ATP Date:4/22/2004 10:31:29 AM the Undo after Save feature only works if you keep the wave file open in SF after saving. if you save, then close the file and then open it again, it will not remember the previous processes. i think you can save the wave as a Sound Forge Project (or something like that) , and then it should retain your changes regardless of whether you close the file, but the flipside is you cannot use these files like regular waves in other applications.
Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history) Reply by: Sonic Date:4/22/2004 11:19:38 AM As in 6.0, any chain effects, including Pan and Volume, must be explicitly applied to the file before saving. The "Process Selection" button in the chainer will apply the chain of effects. "Play Normal" will always tell you what you will send to file during a save (disregarding format changes or lossy compression like mp3). J.
Subject:Rendering Files (save edit history) Reply by: Pauken Date:4/22/2004 6:19:10 PM Hi J, Thanks for the missing piece of information. I had not used the Plug In Chainer before, and was not actually processing the file; only previewing it. Now that I know where the process icon is, everything works as it should. One final comment though: software would be so much more "user friendly" if it had actual buttons with names like "process", "preview", "mix", "trim", "crop" and hundreds more. The icons are difficult to distinguish, and it would be just as easy to have the actual function listed on the button. Use colors to differentiate different functions, or groups of buttons. There is room for lots of improvement here. I usually don't use tool bars because of this. I use the pull downs or keyboard shortcuts when ever possible. Fred
Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history) Reply by: Sonic Date:4/23/2004 7:37:09 AM I should point out that every toolbar button has a tooltip associated with it. Just make sure the "Show Tool Tips" checkbox is checked in Options->Preferences->Toolbars (or View->Toolbars). J.

Subject:Rendering Files (save edit history)

Posted by: Pauken

Date:4/22/2004 10:04:18 AM

I have been unable to sucessfully use a process such as PAN or VOLUME ENVELOPE, render the file as a WAV file and recover the work when I reopen the saved file.

When I reopen the WAV file, no work was saved; only the original file with no changes.

I can find the .frg file which shows the volume or pan envelopes

(and I need to reactivate the functionality of the envlopes EACH TIME using the PLUG IN CHAINER --ENABLE ALL-- before they will work),

but I cannot create a new WAV file which keeps my work.

Help?

Thanks!

Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history)

Reply by: ATP

Date:4/22/2004 10:31:29 AM

the Undo after Save feature only works if you keep the wave file open in SF after saving. if you save, then close the file and then open it again, it will not remember the previous processes.

i think you can save the wave as a Sound Forge Project (or something like that) , and then it should retain your changes regardless of whether you close the file, but the flipside is you cannot use these files like regular waves in other applications.

Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history)

Reply by: Sonic

Date:4/22/2004 11:19:38 AM

As in 6.0, any chain effects, including Pan and Volume, must be explicitly applied to the file before saving. The "Process Selection" button in the chainer will apply the chain of effects. "Play Normal" will always tell you what you will send to file during a save (disregarding format changes or lossy compression like mp3).

J.

Subject:Rendering Files (save edit history)

Reply by: Pauken

Date:4/22/2004 6:19:10 PM

Hi J,

Thanks for the missing piece of information. I had not used the Plug In Chainer before, and was not actually processing the file; only previewing it. Now that I know where the process icon is, everything works as it should.

One final comment though: software would be so much more "user friendly" if it had actual buttons with names like "process", "preview", "mix", "trim", "crop" and hundreds more. The icons are difficult to distinguish, and it would be just as easy to have the actual function listed on the button. Use colors to differentiate different functions, or groups of buttons. There is room for lots of improvement here. I usually don't use tool bars because of this. I use the pull downs or keyboard shortcuts when ever possible.

Fred

Subject:RE: Rendering Files (save edit history)

Reply by: Sonic

Date:4/23/2004 7:37:09 AM

I should point out that every toolbar button has a tooltip associated with it. Just make sure the "Show Tool Tips" checkbox is checked in Options->Preferences->Toolbars (or View->Toolbars).

J.