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Subject:OK, sample me up..
Posted by: Nathan323
Date:3/16/2004 5:34:31 PM
Howdy all. I am trying to get the best audio quality from all my sounds. Dah! I am new though to sample rates, etc. Between ACID (Pro 4.0f) and Sound Forge (7.0a) I can see many opportunities to change these settings. OK, here goes... * In SF I can Resample my loop from the Process menu. I have worked out that it always sounds better with a higher Interpolation Accuracy, so thats fine. Then I can resample at any rate. * Then I can save my file at any rate, throwing into the mix whether to choose 16 or 24 bit depth. * Then in ACID (using my loop) I can set the sample rate of the project to any rate, again with the bit depth. * Then I can Render As.. , again choosing bit depth and sample rate. Alrighty, I realise at some point I'm going to be overlapping, ie. if I make THAT change, then I shouldn't have to make THIS change. Is there an efficient order of events? Does one change override all others? Is anyone actually still reading this waffling tangent?!?? Thanks for your help, Nathan |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:3/17/2004 5:48:13 AM
I think you may have lost us. But let me try to answer as best I can: Yes, no, yes, yes, yes , no, maybe but I don't know how. Did that help? |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: marcarotsky
Date:3/17/2004 10:02:00 AM
ummmmmm................ i'd have to say........... WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT???????????????????????? |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:3/17/2004 11:51:52 AM
I'm not quite sure what exactly you were asking, but if you can work with 24-bit, use that resolution throughout until the final stage of mastering, then dither to 16-bit for consumption by the masses. Sampling rate isn't too important; 44.1 kHz is usually fine (since most of us can only hear about half that frequency, and that's about what can be represented accurately). You can use higher sampling rates if you want, but note the higher you go, the more stress you put on your system's performance. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: Nathan323
Date:3/18/2004 6:09:12 PM
Thanks mD. So using resample (from 41,100 to 48,000Hz) in SF is exactly the same as saving the 44,100Hz file to 48,000Hz? And when u say 16-bit for the masses, does a 24-bit .wav not burn to CD? Thanks, Nathan |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:3/19/2004 6:46:27 AM
Yes, it's the same, except that when you resample you get to pick the accuracy (highest, of course) and when you save it uses some default accuracy (probably not highest, but i don't know). RedBook standard Audio CDs are always 16 bit 44,100Hz stereo. If your finished and rendered file is anything other than this, it will get converted to this format when burned to a CD. So, when renderting, it's probably better to render to this format while you can pick the accuracy and such, rather than having the CD burning software do it for you. |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:3/19/2004 10:04:37 AM
So that's what we're talking about. I see now. My opinion is the recording in 24 bit, 44.1 kHz is fine. So is 16 bit, 44.1 kHz. I'm not as fond of 48kHz because it doesn't sound that much better (I can't hear it.) and it introduces a need to dither. If your using 16 bit loops then you definately stay in 16 bit. I generally stay with 16/44.1 because that's where I'm going to end up in the end. Keep it as simple as possible. I'm sure others will have a different opinion. |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: Nathan323
Date:3/19/2004 7:23:07 PM
Thanks a lot everyone, thats a great help. If anyone would care to comment on another unresolved thread on errors whilst saving presets, that'd be great too! http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=261619&Replies=3&Page=3 Cheers, Nathan |
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Subject:RE: OK, sample me up..
Reply by: mortalengines
Date:3/25/2004 11:55:48 AM
This is an old topic, but I just had to throw my two cents in. Typically, when I record into Sound Forge or Acid I will use the 24 bit 48,000 hz setting - I understand that increasing the word bit length on the way in will give you much higher clarity & "fullness" on the incoming track. When I am done recording I will usually do my bit/sample rate conversion in SF to 16bit/44.1khz before working in acid since most of my loops to work with are 16bit. My mix window is always in 16bit/44.1 as well. I wouldn't try resampling my 16 bit loops to 24 bit & working with them in the 24 bit mix window- I hear the results are not really noticeable & can actulally be kinda crappy. Sound Forge has some Great plug ins for your Post Mix Mastering though & I get pretty good results with using their plug ins & writing directly to disc out of Sound Forge. |