Sony Press Release for Vegas 5

dcrandall wrote on 3/2/2004, 6:41 PM
"The latest version of the Vegas software increases its functionality with even more sophisticated features, including 3D planar motion, film-style 5.1 surround panning, external control surface support, Loops for ACID ™ "loop property" recognition, customizable keyboard mapping, real-time event reverse, network rendering, Sony DSR-DU1 and DSR-DR1000 disc recorder support, J-H3 HDCAM player support and much more."

"New features in the DVD Architect 2 software include: subtitle and alternate audio track support, enhanced disk optimization tools, external monitor previews, support for 24P DVD encoding and much more. "


Sony Vegas 5 Press Release
  • Velocity Micro Z55 Desktop Computer
  • ASUS Prime Z270M-Plus Motherboard
  • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.2GHz
  • Memory: 16GB DDR4-2400MHz
  • 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Driver Version: Studio Driver 452.06
  • Windows 10 Home 64bit v1909
  • Vegas Pro 18.0 Build 284

Comments

Rain Mooder wrote on 3/2/2004, 6:52 PM
Oh boy...This could be the thread of the year...

Got my popcorn. And my network render farm...
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:19 PM
Easily sounds like the one upgrade Ill be making this year.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:20 PM
And judging from the feature list I’ll bet is costs a bundle. I hope Sony doesn’t forget about making the upgrade affordable for those of us who aren’t professionals with deep pockets but are loyal customers from the Vegas 3 days. I would love to be able to afford to upgrade to this.

~jr
rextilleon wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:27 PM
Johnny, are you saying that you are not going out immediately to buy a Sony
J-H3 HDCAM? LOL---Anyway, yes it would be nice for Sony to take pity on us poor video schlumps who have been loyal to the brand. Does anyone know what "external control surface support" is.
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:27 PM
Wasnt there a thread sometime ago about Sony increasing pricing to give the more professional look by bringing it in the vicinity ofprice ranges comparable to other "pro" editing tools?
PeterWright wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:34 PM
> Does anyone know what "external control surface support" is.?

I don't know in detail, but I think it's something to do with controlling faders etc with external hardware - something the Audio crowd have been after for years .....
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:37 PM
It makes one wodner as well if Sony will follow SoFo's lead like last year and release a beta copy. I know for myself, that was one of the reasons I actually purchased VV4 because of the Beta and the exposure I had with it. Otherwise, I would have waited to upgrade around now. Hopefully an anticipated release date wont be too far away.
theigloo wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:37 PM

To be honest, that's not a super enticing feature list. I don't think Vegas should be trying to do things After Effects has in the bag.

I would prefer to have seen "Dual processor support" and "Timeline scrubbing that makes you feel like you're on a Pentium, not a 386." I know I'll take slack for the latter, but ALL NLE's beat Vegas on the update speed of the preview window when scrubbing the timeline.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:40 PM
Yea, I don’t care if they charge $1000 for it to attract the “jet-set” professional crowd. As long as they honor their existing loyal customers with an upgrade price similar to last time (early upgrade for $199 for Vegas and $299 for Vegas+DVD). That’s really my budget limit. All I want is a copy of DVD Architect with end-actions! ;-)

~jr
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:44 PM
rextilleon,

External Surface Support means that you can control the software from an outboard device (example would be shuttle pro, but WAY more sofisticated).

I am not sure how much I can say at this point, but to me, it is one of the COOLEST features of Vegas 5.

Gary
Lanzaedit wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:45 PM
What about EDL support?

John Lanza
kevgl wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:47 PM
I'm still hoping for non-DV hardware support of some sort.

I really would like to be able to use Vegas here with DVCPro rather than Premiere. I only use Vegas at home ...

PLEASE!!!???
winrockpost wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:47 PM
Hmmm,, deck control ? Beta SP ?
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:48 PM
Perhaps they will have some hardware assisted rendering. That would be sweet.
GaryKleiner wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:51 PM
>Perhaps they will have some hardware assisted rendering.<

acidsex,
The key words for you in the press release are "network rendering".

Gary
FuTz wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:54 PM
Grrrrreat !!! So we can split renders between 2 or more computers?
p@mast3rs wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:57 PM
Gary, I was referring to support for encoding cards. Network rendering is definitely awesome but I have some colleagues that were hoping for support mpeg encoding hardware.
rique wrote on 3/2/2004, 7:59 PM
"film-style 5.1 surround panning"

I wonder how this is different from what it has now.
Softy wrote on 3/2/2004, 8:37 PM
Hell yes! Let's hope that it means there's support for the Mackie Control Universal, and other cool hardware. This is the biggest reason I've been reluctant to go with Vegas. There's no way I'm trading my mixer for a mouse.
Chanimal wrote on 3/2/2004, 8:48 PM
Having launched over 400 products, for 150 companies (including Microsoft, Corel, Adobe, Aldus, Netscape, Autodesk, etc.), and having managed over 36 product managers, I can say I would die for a forum like this one. It is a goldmine of information as to what people want and prefer. I could have saved thousands, if not millions on primary research by monitoring a similar discussion like this in my own forums. I'm still surprised that Sony hasn't posted surveys within the forum asking for us to prioritize a feature list--we would all jump at the chance and, along with some additional research on "prospects," they would have their single greatest challenge resolved--determining a prioritized product roadmap.

The Sonic Foundry team seemed to have used this resource and responded accordingly. However, I don't know anything about the new management style with Sony. Like I mentioned after the acquisition, I hope they don't screw it up and deposition the product way up the chain, when there could be an even larger and faster growing prosumer crowd left behind. I mainly hope they listen to the request that their knowledgable and loyal following has requested (especially features that can increase speed).

I'm sure we all also hope that they don't loose any of their strengths, like rock solid stable code--I dropped Premier and started searching after it kept blowing up my critical projects (piece of junk).

Let's hope that the original wisdom that made this product so great prevails.

A potential new release is sure exciting!

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Windows 11 Pro, i9 (10850k - 20 logical cores), Corsair water-cooled, MSI Gaming Plus motherboard, 64 GB Corsair RAM, 4 Samsung Pro SSD drives (1 GB, 2 GB, 2 GB and 4 GB), AMD video Radeo RX 580, 4 Dell HD monitors.Canon 80d DSL camera with Rhode mic, Zoom H4 mic. Vegas Pro 21 Edit (user since Vegas 2.0), Camtasia (latest), JumpBacks, etc.

Nat wrote on 3/2/2004, 8:50 PM
"Realtime event reverse"

I hope this alow includes audio events, that's the only reason I need soundforge when using v4...
Jay_Mitchell wrote on 3/2/2004, 9:06 PM
So, Now that the cat is out of the bag - why don't all of you die hard Vegas Fans come to NAB and join in on the Party.

--Jay Mitchell

SoCal Vegas Users Group
johnmeyer wrote on 3/2/2004, 9:17 PM
Most new releases have a theme or a story. There is usually some segment of the market that they are trying to address, or some new group of features that relate to one another.

I don't see any story line here. What are we going to be able to do that we couldn't do before? Is the workflow going to be significantly faster, and if so, why? Will we no longer have to buy certain software programs because their functions have been integrated into Vegas? Is there a significant quality improvement? Can I render faster?

I honestly don't know yet, from just what is in the press release, whether the Sony Engineering department has created a great upgrade or not, but I DO know that -- so far -- the Sony Marketing department has done a poor job positioning and explaining it.

Message to Sony Marketing: Get your positioning and messaging clear and precise. It seems very muddled, based on this one press release.
TVCmike wrote on 3/2/2004, 9:25 PM
Interesting that you bring up EDL support. Usually if you're supporting EDL export, you would be going to something like an Avid or Discreet. A while back, I read a thread here where someone was asking for AAF support. Someone from Sony asked the question "why do you need it?" Well, let me tell you why you need it - because not everyone wants to use Vegas to finish in. Even if this isn't a reason, I think that increasing the perceived legitimacy of the tool in the professional broadcast and film industry by including AAF begs serious consideration. Vegas 4.0 is so close to FCP4 yet so far away.

And yes, hardware support is lacking (read: Canopus and Matrox), but the distributed network rendering will be extremely helpful. Now all we have to do is convince AJA to make a set of drivers for Vegas for their beautiful IEEE1394 boxes and we'll really be cooking.