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Subject:ACIDising a folder of wav files
Posted by: Neole
Date:2/26/2004 4:17:33 AM

Is there a software that can automatically ACIDise a folder of wav files that are loops, giving them the proper info (except for root note info)?

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Grazie
Date:2/26/2004 9:11:10 AM

I don't know, but what an excellent question! . .I'm listening . . Grazie

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/26/2004 12:31:11 PM

You cannot ACIDize a folder full of samples (at least not with Sony's tools).

ACIDizing samples is a bit of an involved process, especially Loops.

For example, you can't really ACIDize a folder full of samples that have different BPM's and keys you really don't know about and expect gold to come out of it.

It might be a different situation if you had a folder full of samples that are all the same tempos and keys, but I'm assuming these samples you want to ACIDize do not adhere to that situation.

Adding to that, ACID has no way of knowing what you really want with an un-ACIDized sample. ACID usually calculates tempo based upon a 4 beat selection, for example. What if you wanted/intended the sample to be 8 beats long, which would change the tempo of the ACIDized loop?

(Doubling the number of beats would actually halve the tempo, while halving the number of beats would double the tempo.)

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Big_Faced_Boy
Date:2/26/2004 2:31:27 PM

I don't know of a way to batch convert files to do this. I can't think of a particularly reliable way of achieving it. If all loops thrown at such a utility were of the same properties, eg 4 beats, you could do it. I still don't know of a utility to do this, though.

ACID will automatically acidize any loop you throw at it. This isn't exactly the answer you were looking for, as you may need to adjust some of the properties and will have to save metadata to each file manually.

To add ACID metadata to the file, hit the save button in the track properties window. The information will now be stored in the file.

BFB

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:2/26/2004 5:03:53 PM

I did it on a whole CD of audio loops. I used Sound Forge Studio. It took a loog time, but I was happy with the results. You have to edit (including crop) as well as acidize each loop. But I went ahead and replaced my audio Drum Tools CD with the acidized version. It had become, "Worth The Money!"

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/26/2004 5:12:19 PM

As DKeenum noted, Sound Forge is a great way of ACIDizing samples. (Both Sound Forge and Screenblast Sound Forge (or Sound Forge Studio) have the ACID Loop Creation Tools, but only Sound Forge has the Loop Tuner, which is great to have to tweak a Loop's end points.)

Adding to that, I'd always take a final step and adjust stretch properties in ACID Pro, as Sound Forge does not have the ability to work with stretch properties.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Erik_Nygaard
Date:2/27/2004 1:56:16 AM

Chickensys' Translator can acidize folders, but all waves within the folder will get the same acid properties.
I spent some time emailing the developer a while time back when I needed to acidize a few gigs worth of drumloops.
I've tried a couple of shareware tools that didn't pan out,
but this one works like charm.
You can get the Giga-version at a reduced price.

http://www.chickensys.com/

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Neole
Date:2/29/2004 12:01:52 PM

Thanks. I know of this, and also something called ACIDIZER. They both work, but they give all the loops the same info, i.e. 4 bars or 8 bars etc. I was looking for something that would give the correct info automatically, like ACID or SONAR do automatically for an unACIDised wav loop.

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/29/2004 4:49:52 PM

ACID (and I would imagine SONAR) usually gauges samples based upon a 4 beat selection and the length in time of the samples.

Sometimes, ACID doesn't guess it right. You may intend, for example, for a sample to be 8 beats long but ACID guesses it as 4, which can dramatically alter how a sample sounds.

And then there's the odd number of beat samples. For example, a 6 beat sample would most likely never be guessed right by ACID.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Neole
Date:2/29/2004 10:52:35 PM

Well those odd beat (3 or 6 or 9 bar) samples are rare. And between 2 and 4 and 8 bar samples, Sonar usually gets them right. Im not sure about ACID.

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:3/1/2004 10:43:37 AM

ACID doesn't usually have a problem with such standard samples either.

Odd number of beat samples may be rare, but they're sometimes necessary—especially for vocal tracks. In a common time sig, a verse may start on beat 4 and carry over for a couple measures (for a total of 9 beats), for example.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: ACIDising a folder of wav files
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:3/2/2004 8:52:02 PM

Just by default, a wave is "acidized" if you touch it in Sound Forge and have the "save metadata" box checked. I know my process involves recording in Sonar, rough cutting, then tweaking in Sound Forge, including setting the key (if any) and number of beats, then bring it into Acid to tweak the stretching properties (oh, to have an Acid that defaults to forced divisions at eighth notes instead of 16ths...). If you are acidizing files that are 4 beats long and don't need to be transposed (drum loops, for instance), all you have to do is save it from within Sound Forge and it is already "Acidized" by default.

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