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Subject:selling my 90-cd loop collection
Posted by: imemine
Date:2/13/2004 10:28:16 PM

i need input/help here....

over the past 5 years, ive purchased EVERY single loop cd from sonic foundry, except the value-priced $20 ones they released.
so its about 90 cds here, and receipts totalling $4100 over the years. and im wondering, now that im through the 'gotta buy them all' phase, wheres the best place to sell them, and i am allowed to sell them, arent i ?(having bought them all and not keeping any on my system because i simply dont find them of interest anymore after making my own for the past year)

im thinking, ebay? sell them as one giant package? could i expect at least $1500 for them all? please give me some direction as to the best place to sell them.
thanks!
gg

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:2/14/2004 6:56:33 AM

ebaY is a good idea, but i would group them into smaller collections. Put all the heavy bass into one collection, all the techno into another, etc. This way you're much more likely to find buyers who want just a certain group and don't have a lot of money to spend. Make sure you set a high enough minimum bid. I've bought a few things lately that started out as penny bids and gotten them for $0.01 because no one else bid. I kinda feel sorry for the sellers. They were brand new to ebaY and probably never realized that it could sell that low.

$1500 for the lot? That works out to $16.67 each. I think that's being optimistic. I think a more realistic expectation would be $5 to $10 each. But, hey, you might get lucky and get bigger bids. If you want to be cautious, set an initial bid of $1 and a reserve of $15 x number of discs in the group (or whatever). This way you'll see what people are willing to bid but you won't actually make a sale unless they go over the reserve. All you have to lose is the small posting fees if you don't make a sale.

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/14/2004 11:58:09 AM

I would imagine that you can sell them, as long as you don't keep anything relating to them.

Iacobus
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Subject:how about this?
Reply by: imemine
Date:2/14/2004 12:09:55 PM

thanks so much for your input. heres whats i did then, i went thru and sorted them into bundles of 10 collections each. and maybe ill hope to get $15x10=$150 for each set. looking on ebay i guess selling depends on popularity of the CD, as they range from right under $10 and i see many right now at $25 for the better ones.
so heres the breakdown, is this a good setup? thanks so much again for responding to my post chienworks!


HEAVY BEATS---------------------------------
ugly remnants, volume 1
ugly remnants, volume 2
machine language
bunker 8:abrasive synths
steve tibbets: friendly fire
rapoon: sci-fi tribal
spurkel: electro-world percussion
toyz construction set
esoterik beats
bunker 8:abrasive beats

FILM / AMBIENT-----------------------------------------
david torn: textural elements
fractalized grooves and atmospheres
numina: emotional peak sounds
slow silhouette: extended sound elements (2 CDs)
spektral minimalism: classic amibient forms
ma ja le: ethereal textures and psycotropic rhythms
vir unis: bug report
chromosphere: electronic imprints
cinematix volume 1
cinematix volume 2

HIP HOP / DANCE-----------------------------
bass-x
intelligent dance music
hiphop/r&b vocals
stylus pressure: urban grooves on digital wax
hydroponic hip-hop
bunker 8: nu groove pop
bunker 8: abrasive beats
mac money r&b 101
underground soundlab: hiphop construction kit
dj puzzle: scratch tactics

DRUMKITS-----------------------------------
junkyard rhythms: joe vitale
discrete drums volume 1
discrete drums volume 2
george pendergast essential percussion
mick fleetwoord: total drumming
hi-carb acoustic drum grooves: drum sugar
george pendergast: alt.rockdrums
r&b drums: groove spectrum
latin percussion
processed drumkits: zero gravity

DRUM n BASS / TECHNO----------------------------------
prototechno: techno foundations
euro techno: ground loops
futurist drum and bass
designer dance tools
electrocution: darkside construction kit
twine: electronica
mark pistel: electronic point blank
fluid dynamics: computational drum n bass
endless flow: knutrix drum n bass
trance nrg

GUITAR / ACOUSTIC INSTRUMENTS------------------
electro lounge
total spanish guitar (2 CDs)
acid rock
jade hill: rock pop guitars
bradley fish: unstrung
crimson, blue n fab: horncraft for r&b
the songwriters acoustic guitar (2 CDs)
jazz trap kit
doug colosio: american piano
psychedelic guitar

BASS BEATS / ELECTRONICA-------------------
bill laswell, volume 1
bill laswell, volume 2
bill laswell, volume 3
bill laswell, volume 4
downtempo beats: leo cavalio
bass taster: leo cavalio
rudy sarzo: workingmans bass
headstrong grooves
aural e: eclectic electronica
celestial windowpane, third party

ORCHESTRAL / ETHNIC-----------------------
world pop
orchestral 1: classical
orchestral 2: modern
orchestral 3: cinematic
orchestral 4: rock and pop
essential sound 3
brian daly: metarock visions
new roots reggae
1001 sound effects of sonic foundry
loop sampler of 6 other CDs


Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: L25
Date:2/14/2004 12:16:35 PM

Are interested in selling just a few? I know of a few I want. Can you post an email or link to discuss off line?

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: imemine
Date:2/14/2004 12:17:46 PM

no. i would say 'that would require 75GBs on my hard drive'! but nowadays thats nothing. the only proof besides my word is the fact that my receipts show from 99 to 2003 i bought them all, and i wouldnt of sat on them for all these years if i was just ripping them to a hard drive. i just simply dont find them useful, having heard them all, and now knowing how to get my own loops down to a science now. i think once you get it down how to do your own, the loop cds lose their fascination.

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: walden
Date:2/16/2004 5:47:22 PM

imemine,
I, interested in buying some cds, but i live in guadalajara, mexico. Which could be the best way to send you the money?. Im talking about 20 cds, please find out the shiping amount, to send you that too.

Thank you.
Sergio naranjo

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: grasshopper
Date:2/17/2004 6:50:51 AM

Could you contact me about your loop collection. I would be interested in some as well. You can contact me at abuscon@yahoo.com

Grasshopper

Subject:contacting
Reply by: imemine
Date:2/18/2004 11:25:44 AM

you can contact me at gg@terranaut.com, email me there if you want a 10-pack for $200 or the whole set for $1500...

Subject:contact
Reply by: imemine
Date:2/18/2004 11:25:58 AM

you can contact me at gg@terranaut.com, email me there if you want a 10-pack for $200 or the whole set for $1500...

Subject:contact
Reply by: imemine
Date:2/18/2004 11:26:38 AM

you can contact me at gg@terranaut.com, email me there if you want a 10-pack for $200 or the whole set for $1500...i dont want to turn the acid forum into a classfieds site...

Subject:RE: selling my 90-cd loop collection
Reply by: jumbuk
Date:2/19/2004 6:48:57 PM

I'm not an expert on this, but ...

With most sample CDs, what you are actually buying is the license to publish music containing the samples. You don't actually own the CDs or the material on them, they are just the medium for supplying the material you are licensed to use. You can't usually transfer the license by selling the CDs.

Not sure about Sony libraries - you should check the user agreement on them. If the new user is not proposing to publish anything using the loops then they would probably get away with it. If you are planning to use the loops comercially, I would read the agreement first.

Having said that, Sony libraries are sold across the counter all over the world, so they probably haven't got very good license records.

- jumbuk

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