Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! Posted by: P2G Date:1/19/2004 8:38:02 AM when i open my music, everythings fine, great quality, everything. then i go to SAVE AS, and save as a .wav file because i want to get the best sound out of it, the hard drive space is not a problem so i dont save as .mp3 then when i open it up again, or play it in winamp etc.. the sound quality is remarkably reduced, why does it do this? can someone please help me out? thank you
Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! Reply by: planders Date:1/19/2004 11:22:50 AM There should be absolutely no change in the sound data simply by saving it--unless you've selected a lower quality template in the WAV export. WAV files can have any combination of sample rate and bit depth, so if you've previously selected a lower-quality template you might be unintentionally resampling the file while saving. In the Save As dialog box, make sure the Description box describes the format you actually want; if not, select a different template from the dropdown or click Custom to correct the settings yourself.
Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! Reply by: metrazol Date:1/20/2004 10:13:55 AM On another note, you say "saving my music." Is that your music as in things you recorded, made in ACID, etc. or your music as in "tracks ripped from my cd collection?" If you're decompressing from an MP3, well... loss is unavoidable. MP3's are danged lossy (before y'all complain, remember, most people still us 96k instead of 128 or 192) and so any WAV you save from an MP3 is usually going to suck, but that all depends on the source file's properties, what you have a recording of, and so on. A little more detail should help clear this up...
Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! Reply by: P2G Date:1/21/2004 5:20:22 PM when i record into it, or when i even open a mp3 OR wav, i edit it, sound is perfect.. then i go to save it, and it totally ruins the sound quality, my soundcard is a very very good one so i can tell immediately. the settings are all on the correct ones, 44000 or something? sav as wav file. still the problem. what are the ideal settings to SAVE AS? someone please write them so i can set mine to it thankyou :)
Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!! Reply by: kumar Date:1/21/2004 5:47:20 PM The ideal format to save in is certainly the Wave format. Hands down, no doubt. It is not a lossy format like MP3s - however, 1 minute is ~ 10 MB. The lossy MP3 format is great for transmitting over the Internet and squeezing around 200 songs on a CD, as it is compressed at a 10:1 ratio - 1 minute ~ 1MB. The problem is that once you save it in MP3 format, especially at 160 or less, the bottleneck will remain at that bitrate if you decompress it back to Wave. Stick to Wave. I believe either your PC or the software is malfunctioning. I record in Wave and get incredibly faithful copies of the originals. Hope this helps.

Subject:Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!!

Posted by: P2G

Date:1/19/2004 8:38:02 AM

when i open my music, everythings fine, great quality, everything.

then i go to SAVE AS, and save as a .wav file because i want to get the best sound out of it, the hard drive space is not a problem so i dont save as .mp3

then when i open it up again, or play it in winamp etc.. the sound quality is remarkably reduced, why does it do this? can someone please help me out?

thank you

Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!!

Reply by: planders

Date:1/19/2004 11:22:50 AM

There should be absolutely no change in the sound data simply by saving it--unless you've selected a lower quality template in the WAV export. WAV files can have any combination of sample rate and bit depth, so if you've previously selected a lower-quality template you might be unintentionally resampling the file while saving.

In the Save As dialog box, make sure the Description box describes the format you actually want; if not, select a different template from the dropdown or click Custom to correct the settings yourself.

Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!!

Reply by: metrazol

Date:1/20/2004 10:13:55 AM

On another note, you say "saving my music." Is that your music as in things you recorded, made in ACID, etc. or your music as in "tracks ripped from my cd collection?" If you're decompressing from an MP3, well... loss is unavoidable. MP3's are danged lossy (before y'all complain, remember, most people still us 96k instead of 128 or 192) and so any WAV you save from an MP3 is usually going to suck, but that all depends on the source file's properties, what you have a recording of, and so on. A little more detail should help clear this up...

Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!!

Reply by: P2G

Date:1/21/2004 5:20:22 PM

when i record into it, or when i even open a mp3 OR wav, i edit it, sound is perfect.. then i go to save it, and it totally ruins the sound quality,

my soundcard is a very very good one so i can tell immediately.

the settings are all on the correct ones, 44000 or something? sav as wav file.

still the problem.

what are the ideal settings to SAVE AS? someone please write them so i can set mine to it

thankyou :)

Subject:RE: Editing - Sound Quality Is Reduced!!!

Reply by: kumar

Date:1/21/2004 5:47:20 PM

The ideal format to save in is certainly the Wave format. Hands down, no doubt. It is not a lossy format like MP3s - however, 1 minute is ~ 10 MB. The lossy MP3 format is great for transmitting over the Internet and squeezing around 200 songs on a CD, as it is compressed at a 10:1 ratio - 1 minute ~ 1MB. The problem is that once you save it in MP3 format, especially at 160 or less, the bottleneck will remain at that bitrate if you decompress it back to Wave. Stick to Wave.

I believe either your PC or the software is malfunctioning. I record in Wave and get incredibly faithful copies of the originals.

Hope this helps.