Bitter Sweat EQ Mag Award

Rednroll wrote on 1/9/2004, 8:33 AM
This last week It's finally hit home with me after reading this months EQ magazine and browsing a little deeper in the Vegas open media menus.. EQ magazine has put togethear a yearly "EQ Exceptional Quality Award" List. There's Vegas on page 62 with a small write up for an exceptional quality award. Let me post here and quote it, and you'll soon recognize the bitter/sweatness of the award.

Title: Sony Vegas VIDEO 4.0

"For editing video on Windows, nothing beats Vegas at this price point. Partucularly NOTEWORTHY is the attention paid to audio-it handles plug-ins elegantly, and handles low-latency ASIO drivers for snappy audio response to PICTURE."

First off you'll have to notice the "Video" in the title, which as we know it should be "Vegas 4.0", but obviously, the one time familiar name of Vegas "Audio" has disappeared and been orphaned and adopted the new "Video" worthy program. From reading this, and you have to recognize this is from "EQ magazine" an "Audio" magazine, that Vegas has now really become a Video program, which just happens to have some nice audio features. I'm sure the users in the Video forum are over joyed with their audio features, which makes it respond so "snappy" to picture. Hmmm, and I thought ASIO was an "audio" driver model for low latency input/output audio?

Now from my own background, I would say the most important Audio features that Vegas lacks from a pro audio standpoint and would be considered as showstoppers for that market would be.
1. Hardware control surface support
2. auto-input punch in ability
3. .OMF import/export
4. and maybe bus to bus routing following close behind at #4

Now it's the lack of .OMF that really ticks me off at this point. I know I've been requesting this since "Vegas Pro v1.0" and "Vegas Audio 2.0". I've had some discussions on this very forum about .OMF and got a response back from Sonic Foundry at time of, that well Yes OMF would be good so you could transport the majority of your project from one software to another, but wouldn't the majority of the users be confused because all of the FX and all the other information didn't translate with it? So now I look at that reasoning and I open Vegas and see I can directly open up an Adobe Photo shop file into a Vegas project doing video editing work. I happen to use Adobe photoshop quite a bit, so that's why I'm using this example. Didn't I just lose the majority of my information when opening the photoshop file in Vegas? Yes!!! I can't do any editing, all my layer information is gone, all my undo history is gone. But I do have a picture, without even having to render to another file format and "flatten" all the layers. I bet all those Vegas Video editors must be confused at this point? I can't even have this same type of functionality for Acid projects!!!!

Will someone please give me my multi-track AUDIO program back, I've seemed to have lost it somewhere?

Comments

farss wrote on 1/9/2004, 1:02 PM
I bought Vegas (Ver 4) because of its audio capabilities to edit video, never knew of its history. I'd assumed it was a video product from an audio company, not an audio product that had grown into a NLE.
I could make exactly the same comment but the other way around.

No matter which side of the fence you come from though I think the real point is there is a fence. That's where I think things get messy. Vegas doesn't handle somethings on the video side very well because it needs to work differently to handle audio and the other way around as well.
I suspect a lot of the things the video guys are asking for will not be possible or difficult because of constraints imposed by the audio side and the other was around as well.
If you bought into this product when it was audio only I think you have a right to be a little peeved at the direction it has taken. I don't quite know how it can move forward to everyones satisfaction.
PipelineAudio wrote on 1/9/2004, 3:48 PM
Shouldnt have derailed it early on from being the audio program it could have been
Cold wrote on 1/9/2004, 11:44 PM
Audio! Audio! Audio!
Steve S.
risenwithhim wrote on 1/10/2004, 5:48 AM
I bought Vegas 4 for editing video, not knowing it's history, but just figured it was the big brother to VideoFactory, which I had bought and enjoyed in 2001. A few months after buying Vegas 4, and visiting this forum, I realized it's potential for multitrack audio, and have since rebuilt my entire recording studio around it.
I guess promotions people have to pick a targeted selling point, and then expect that there will be some sweet serendipity in the buyer's future when they realize how robust Vegas is.
wigworld wrote on 1/11/2004, 8:07 AM
Personally, I'd love Vegas to have some MIDI functionality, even if it's just really basic, like in Acid.