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Subject:sound forge 7 register
Posted by: Foreverain4
Date:12/23/2003 6:37:24 AM

am i correct in assuming that you must register before you can even use the trial version? and, the only way to do it is online. really, what is the market for this product? i will not connect my studio computer to the internet. how am i supposed to try this product?



Subject:RE: sound forge 7 register
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/23/2003 10:37:05 AM

I don't think you have to register unless you want to use the full version, but I'm not sure. (I never tried.)

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: sound forge 7 register
Reply by: Foreverain4
Date:12/23/2003 11:28:47 AM

actually, it wont even open until you register. you only have one option, and that is to connect and register online. however, i went to the updates page instead of the demos and trials page and downloaded it again. this time it doesnt say "trial" at the end of the file name. i will try it and see if it works the way they used to do it. there really should be an easier way to do this. i downloaded a keygen for the software that i have purchased cause i am sick of having to reregister everytime i re install something.

Subject:RE: sound forge 7 register
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:12/24/2003 11:37:32 AM

Unfortunately, there really isn't one. Feel lucky you don't have to use a USB dongle or anything like that every time you want to use the program.

A key generator? You should keep things genuine and register the right way, as using such a program may void support for your copy. Not only that, you're giving your money to people who make the money off of "users" who don't even pay for Sound Forge.

Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
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Subject:RE: sound forge 7 register
Reply by: Tortured_X
Date:1/1/2004 3:17:10 PM

I think you're missing the point here. A lot of us don't want our workstations connected to the net, in the same way that we don't overload our systems with other software (like games, graphics apps, etc) so that our systems are running as efficient, stable, and "pure" as can be. A lot of us use dedicated machines for our audio work. If Windows (Win2k in my case) wasn't structured around its damn over-bloated registry, perhaps this wouldn't be such an issue.

Ever notice that when you have a fresh install, your machine runs well, and once you've loaded 30 or more programs, it starts to slow down a bit? That's why so many of us use dedicated machines. But all this software protection sometimes gets a little out of hand.

Example: We just purchased Cakewalk's Sonar 3 Producer Edition. It comes with VSampler 3 (a softsynth DXi plugin). Sonar only needed the serial number from the case. VSampler, on the other hand, required connecting to the net, having a hardware based serial number generated, in order to return the unlock key. Sonar 3 costs $800, while VSampler only costs $150. See the irony there? Now, admittedly, and probably due to complaints from legit users, their update patch removes the hardware key nonsense. But the point is, not everyone is stealing software, and it gets really irritating to have to jump thru hoops just to reinstall something.

We recently downloaded the trial version of Sound Forge 7. Seemed great. Our bass player went ahead and registered it, and all was fine. Then we upgraded our machine a bit. When we went to reinstall it, it goes thru the annoying online registration part. But then the program won't start, and won't even say what the error is. Obviously there's some sort of communication error in the process, and we can't even get to the part to enter the serial number. So until that's fixed, it's back to version 6. I hate to say this, but when Sonic Foundry was doing Sound Forge, we never had these sorts of problems, and we've been using it since version 3. Meanwhile, he's going to contact customer service about this, and maybe they'll ship us a CD or something.


Sometimes people lose perspective when money is in question. Being an artist, of course protecting our music is an issue. But for all the people that I know that download mp3s, over half go and buy the legit CD. (That the artist will only receive maybe 6% of that is a topic for another time) And for all the people that obtain pirated software, the ones that really use it, and come to depend upon it, DO purchase the legit copies. Why? Because we want to support ones who make it, so they can continue to improve it. It's our livelihood.

I've met so many musicians who started using pirated software, because it enabled them to "get started". The one's that actually benefited from it, got somewhere, and now, they not only purchase the latest and greatest, but they almost take pride in talking about it.

Hopefully Sony will spend a little more time tweaking and improving the software itself, and not so much time worrying about a million obnoxious ways to "protect" it. Otherwise, they're just missing the point too.

Tortured X

Subject:RE: sound forge 7 register
Reply by: Tortured_X
Date:1/1/2004 3:50:20 PM

We had a similar problem. Completely uninstalling the "trial" version, and using only the update version, we were able to get it running. I guess that's a Sonic Foundry idea they kept, where the update is the program. I prefer this over having to install the older versions, and go thru all the updates to get there. I just hope that with Sony being the giant they are, that they don't go "AOL" on us, with big giant colorful buttons for idiots and dummy wizards. Keep Sound Forge the pro level software it's always been!

As for the KeyGen, well, that's a little bogus, but at the same time, I have to admit I started out as an old-school warez junky. But as the wonderful cracking group Radium (R.I.P.) used to say, use it, and if you like it, BUY IT! Point being, these people do put in long hours to create this software, they deserve to make a living at it. If they don't, they'll move on to something else, and then where will we be? I understand that as an artist, because it's the same way. With music, it has to be more than just for the money (and if you're in the music industry, you already know how hard it is to actually MAKE money) but at the same time, I have to be able to eat, have a place to sleep, etc. Once we were able to actually purchase our software legit, we did, and it's cool in a computer-geek sort of way, to brag about all the cool stuff we used to make our music.

As for all the anti-piracy fanatics, they never really consider this one point: over half the people that have pirated software on their computers, never really use it, at least not to it's potential. It just sits there on their computer, so they're not benefiting from it. The real artists out there, that do benefit from it, end up being able to purchase legit copies. In the end, it DOES come around. Stop losing so much sleep over it. As for myself, I can't wait to get to a point where I'm being interviewed by a software company for using their product!

Tortured X

ps: Latest pet peeve: Shareware companies that put out trial versions of software, that when you do buy it online, and the program is fully registered, still display the "register" options all over their software. Guess the designers stayed up so late working on their protection code, they forgot that part. A nifty little video conversion title I just bought, still has a "buy now" button on it's main interface. Lame. Oh well, for $20, as long as it does what it's supposed to...

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