Subject:mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Posted by: jeepman83706

Date:12/10/2003 3:21:46 PM

Ok, i have a 5 sec .wav loop that is in Am. I want to use that loop throught the song, but don't want that same Am chord to sound throughout. Is there a way to have one instance of the loop sound like Am, the next sound like F, and the next G? Basically I really like the rhythym of it but need a little chord variation. Is this possible? I tried messing around with the smitones, but it really wasn't working unless i was doing something wrong. Thanks in advance for your help 'o Acid master!!

Greg

Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: DKeenum

Date:12/10/2003 4:17:23 PM

You can transpose it so it is a bm, cm, c#m, etc, but you can't change it to a major chord. It will still be minor.

Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: marcarotsky

Date:12/10/2003 4:18:54 PM

if you just click on the sample you are working with (so it is highlighted) just click on the "+" or "-" key on your keyboard. this will key up or down your sample. just make sure the sample is "acidized" so that it knows the original key the sample was in and can appropiately change to the key you want.
HTH
--marc

Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: vanblah

Date:12/10/2003 6:58:12 PM

You can transpose the Am sample to a minor triad only.

You can't transpose a sample of a minor triad (such as an Am; which is made of an A; C; and E) into a major triad (such as an AM; which is made up of an A; C#; and E).

You can however add another sample to change the color. For instance, if you were to add a bass tone of F you would have an FM7 (read as F Major triad with a Major 7th) or if you were to add a bass tone of C and another midrange tone of G (these are not triads, just the notes themselves) you would have an approximation of a C6.

Doug

Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: jeepman83706

Date:12/10/2003 7:22:31 PM

Thanks for all of your replies! I guess I need to learn to play the guitar a little better :)

Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/11/2003 12:00:14 PM

Why does everyone get to the cool questions before I do? I must not be drinking enough coffee. ;o)

Seriously, to add to what everyone's said, the main reason why you can't change a minor chord to a major chord is because ACID (or just about any app for that matter) cannot change one note within a chord without also changing the other notes in the chord. This is the nature of the (digital audio) beast.

There are a couple of ways around this: Try and find loops with such variety, or record your own loops.

HTH,
Iacobus
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Subject:RE: mD (and others) - I posted my last question wrong :)

Reply by: Waltern1

Date:12/13/2003 10:57:33 AM

Adding to what others have said, in a pinch, you could possibly cheat with your Am, G, F progession, by working with the relative minors of your two major chords. The G would become Em, and the F would become Dm. So, you'd take your original Am, drop it down to a Em and then two a Dm. Throwing a single note bass A,G,F bassline, as suggested upstream, would bring back some of the character of the progression.

Working with partial chords on top of other chords is a standard method in jazz technique.

But, this all may just be an interesting exercise in problem solving, since by far your best best is what you yourself suggested -- learning to play your guitar better.