Subject:Autoname CD Extraction

Posted by: Rednroll

Date:12/8/2003 9:37:18 PM

I know I've complained about this before, but does anyone else find the Autoname of the extraction annoying? Or am I just doing something wrong? Let's say I put a single CD in my CDrom drive and select "Read by Track". Well if there's 3 songs on that CD, it will name them "Extact from CD1 Track 1", "Extract from CD2 Track 2", "Extract from CD3 Track 3". Hmmm...funny I could have sworn there was only 1 CD, where did the other 2 CD's magically appear from? Isn't Sound Forge intelligent Enough to name them "Extract from CD1 Track 1", "Extract from CD1 Track 2", "Extract from CD1 Track 3" ? Then when I put in another CD, it would name them "Extract from CD2 Track 1" etc. That's how I would have named them, I find it a major annoyance when a client hands me 3 CDs for mastering and tells me "the first track is going to be from CD1 I handed you and it's Track 3".....ok, then I have to do the math...that would be "CD3 Track 3" right?

Subject:RE: Autoname CD Extraction

Reply by: RiRo

Date:12/8/2003 11:00:37 PM

I thought I had been smoking crack or something. It seems pretty stupid.

RiRo

Subject:RE: Autoname CD Extraction

Reply by: drbam

Date:12/9/2003 6:09:05 AM

Agreed! Annoying as hell! I suppose one person's (developer's) vision of common sense is another's (users) insanity! ;-O

drbam

Subject:RE: Autoname CD Extraction

Reply by: SonicJG

Date:12/9/2003 3:01:08 PM

Hi Brian-

After reading your description, it just sounded like a bug. Now, after reproducing your scenario, I recall that it was designed to say "Extract from CD X - Track Y" where the X stands for Xth extraction done in this session, and the Y stands for which track on the CD is actually being ripped. In retrospect, we could've used better arrangement of the wording...

Perhaps a better way of doing it would be to autoname as "Xth CD Extraction - <CD unique code> - Track Y", or to leave the first part out, and have it be "Extract from <CD unique code> - Track Y", as in ACID/Vegas, though the current method will tell you which track got ripped first, second, third, etc.

Since we thought it'd be highly likely that people would not actually save the files using the temporary autoname, we didn't believe the name chosen would be that big of a deal, and the extraction order would have some value for the session.

Anyway, feel free to post comments, and I'll check back.

Joel

Subject:RE: Autoname CD Extraction

Reply by: RiRo

Date:12/9/2003 3:08:57 PM

"Xth CD Extraction - <CD unique code> - Track Y"

would be nice. That would keep up with tracks I rip to use as background for voice overs. It would keep the tracks in extraction order and give me the info of which CD and track, which is what I need when doing this type of work. In fact, it is pretty close to the naming I use.


RiRo

Subject:RE: Autoname CD Extraction

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:12/9/2003 4:29:45 PM

"Xth CD Extraction - <CD unique code> - Track Y"

That would be my preference. I didn't think this was a bug because I had seen the same autoname within Sound Forge 6.0. I've just learn to live with it, but it's always been an annoyance.

The way I work being a mastering engineer, a client will hand me a fist full of CDr's to start mastering. They'll usually say something like "from this first CD, we'll need Tracks 1,2, and 6". I'll therefore load that CDr into my Cdrom drive and select those tracks and do the read by track. Then they'll hand me the next CD and say, "We'll need tracks 1,2 and 3". Once everthing get's extracted, then I save everything with the default names because I am unfamiliar with the Song titles at this point. Next is when the mastering process starts so they'll say, "The first song is from the second CD I handed you, Track #3." For me to find this, I have to think back and remember how I extracted them. If I don't quite remember after 15 extractions from 4 or 5 CDRs, then I have to go preview every song I extracted that says "Track 3"and ask them, "Is this the one?" Becomes a little time consuming and looks unprofessional on my part and hurts my brain too much :-)

While I've got your attention, let me point out another annoyance during this process. Once I've gotten to the point where I've extracted all the songs, and would like to save them, I've attempted to use the "SAVE ALL" feature. I was hoping it would allow me to create a folder and then proceed with the "SAVE ALL" with the default extraction names. Well it doesn't quite work that way, it's really a "Save AS" function, because it first prompts me to "Do you wish to save the changes you made?" for each file extracted.....ahhhh...I didn't think I made any changes, except extract it from the CD and then SF further askes me the location for each file I would like to save it too.