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Subject:previewing in explorer Posted by: butterball Date:12/5/2003 6:07:46 PM *Sorry if it seems like I posted this twice; I'm not sure my other one got printed, but I added stuff to this post anyway* So LOOP bases its BPM on the assumption my sample is a perfect measure (or several measures). So its tempo is off (for example: 119.935 BPM vs. 131.005 BPM) when compared to beatmapped. Now, from within a project I can set a track to ONESHOT to hear something in its original, accurate, native form. But there's NOTHING in explorer that gives me the same ability? (No secret button hiding somewhere? No secret combination of keys?) This would make perfect sense if I choose a project Key and tempo at the start, and choose things to fit in. But I'm flexible about those, until I hear the loops and samples. (And I'll change KEY and TEMPO within a project -- go from 120 to 95BPM.) To preview samples in their original tempo, I have to change my project BPM for each Loop? IDEA: is there a way to strip off all tempo info from a sample and save it as a Loop? Or One-Shot? (and if so, how?) then, maybe I could preview correctly in explorer and temporarily alter/beatmap etc per project. Is there any downside to this? (Outside of all the time it'll take.) -- I could also have several sets of samples -- one for previewing, another for using in projects -- but this would take up an enormous amount of disk space. Anyway, 1) is there a way to create a sample as a LOOP, without the tempo info that's going to screw me up when I preview it in explorer at another BPM. And 2) is everybody sure there isn't an easier way to do this? Thanks for all you guys help. P.S. Thanks for MD's suggestion of RIGHT-CLICKING the sample & choosing "OPEN WITH MEDIA" -- meaning my sample will play with WinMediaPlayer. Problem here is I preview thousands of these puppies, it seems like, and it'd save me a ton of clicks to preview straight outta Explorer. Plus, it doesn't help me hear how these sound as LOOPS.
Subject:RE: previewing in explorer Reply by: Iacobus Date:12/8/2003 12:20:38 PM You're welcome, butterball. If it helps any, you can try right-clicking a sample (or group of samples) and then drag them onto the timeline. ACID will then ask you what kind of tracks you want them to become. (Loop, Beatmapped or One-shot. There's also an Autodetected type, where ACID picks the best course of action.) Answers to specific questions: 1) Outside of what I suggested before? If you had a digital audio editing app like Sound Forge (the full version or the lite "Screenblast" version), you could right-click the sample in the Explorer and choose Edit in Sound Forge. Sound Forge takes the sample at face value (i.e., no ACIDization/stretching) and also has the ability to loop a sample over and over no matter what the material is. If you use this technique, any changes you make in Sound Forge will be reflected in the actual file, so be careful. 2) Not that I know of. Did I suggest Sony's product suggestion form? If you really want to see something in ACID, be sure to fill it out, as they really do listen. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:previewing in explorer

Posted by: butterball

Date:12/5/2003 6:07:46 PM

***Sorry if it seems like I posted this twice; I'm not sure my other one got printed, but I added stuff to this post anyway***

So LOOP bases its BPM on the assumption my sample is a perfect measure (or several measures). So its tempo is off (for example: 119.935 BPM vs. 131.005 BPM) when compared to beatmapped.

Now, from within a project I can set a track to ONESHOT to hear something in its original, accurate, native form. But there's NOTHING in explorer that gives me the same ability? (No secret button hiding somewhere? No secret combination of keys?)

This would make perfect sense if I choose a project Key and tempo at the start, and choose things to fit in. But I'm flexible about those, until I hear the loops and samples. (And I'll change KEY and TEMPO within a project -- go from 120 to 95BPM.) To preview samples in their original tempo, I have to change my project BPM for each Loop?

IDEA: is there a way to strip off all tempo info from a sample and save it as a Loop? Or One-Shot? (and if so, how?) then, maybe I could preview correctly in explorer and temporarily alter/beatmap etc per project.

Is there any downside to this? (Outside of all the time it'll take.)

-- I could also have several sets of samples -- one for previewing, another for using in projects -- but this would take up an enormous amount of disk space.

Anyway, 1) is there a way to create a sample as a LOOP, without the tempo info that's going to screw me up when I preview it in explorer at another BPM.
And 2) is everybody sure there isn't an easier way to do this?

Thanks for all you guys help.

P.S. Thanks for MD's suggestion of RIGHT-CLICKING the sample & choosing "OPEN WITH MEDIA" -- meaning my sample will play with WinMediaPlayer. Problem here is I preview thousands of these puppies, it seems like, and it'd save me a ton of clicks to preview straight outta Explorer. Plus, it doesn't help me hear how these sound as LOOPS.

Subject:RE: previewing in explorer

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/8/2003 12:20:38 PM

You're welcome, butterball.

If it helps any, you can try right-clicking a sample (or group of samples) and then drag them onto the timeline. ACID will then ask you what kind of tracks you want them to become. (Loop, Beatmapped or One-shot. There's also an Autodetected type, where ACID picks the best course of action.)

Answers to specific questions:

1) Outside of what I suggested before? If you had a digital audio editing app like Sound Forge (the full version or the lite "Screenblast" version), you could right-click the sample in the Explorer and choose Edit in Sound Forge.

Sound Forge takes the sample at face value (i.e., no ACIDization/stretching) and also has the ability to loop a sample over and over no matter what the material is.

If you use this technique, any changes you make in Sound Forge will be reflected in the actual file, so be careful.

2) Not that I know of. Did I suggest Sony's product suggestion form? If you really want to see something in ACID, be sure to fill it out, as they really do listen.

HTH,
Iacobus
-------
RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page