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Subject:need help makin a beat??? Posted by: cream811 Date:11/29/2003 11:19:43 AM whats up guys.i been using acid to record vocals for awile now but never used it to make beats.i just started toyin with it and its seems not to be to complicated.can anybody give me tips on where to get free loops and the basic construction of the beat (ex.like do i start with first a loop or syths or drums and kicks,like i said im new so if you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated
Subject:RE: need help makin a beat??? Reply by: marcarotsky Date:11/29/2003 11:37:21 AM acid is good if you want to make "simple" beats. its not designed as a "beat box." it is designed as a sequncer. (to sequence existing loops and/or one shots, synth sounds, vocals...things of that sort) BUT, it is possible to lay down a simple kick loop, or kick/ hi-hat loop. when you bought acid, it should have come with a loop cd. there are like 4-500 loops (also one shots. which is what you would use to make your own loops) on those. if i were you, just load a bunch of loops into acid and start playing around. see how acid works...how it stretches samples, key changes, tempo markers, vst plug-ins (which, by the way is where you can download a plug-in vst to make some SERIOUS BEATS!) there are a TON of vst plug-ins for synth sounds, drum machines and so on. (fruity loops, kontact, absynth, atmospheres) just a few examples. fruity loops would be my suggestion for you. it is VERY easy to use and you can come up with some really serious sounds in it. i think its only like 30-40 bux for the full prof. version. just DIVE RIGHT IN. but learn the basics of acid first. i wouldnt worry about making your own beats yet till you learn how to use the sequenceing functions of acid. which is 90% of what acid is designed for. but, dont worry...the learning curve on acid is very quick. just take a few days off from work and you should be all set!!! :-) --marc
Subject:RE: need help makin a beat??? Reply by: cream811 Date:11/29/2003 11:59:12 AM i feel you im gonna start messin with it a lil more but rite now i get beats from other poeple to record on.so i load it into acid and record over it.now i hear everybody talkin about mpc 2000 and motif 6,sayin wi would need those peices of hardware to make some killer beats.im bout to get a book on music terminology so i could learn more about the terms taht producers use so ill understand it better.but would i be better off gettin a zoom multitrack recording studio and if som can i use that with acid or how does that work
Subject:RE: need help makin a beat??? Reply by: marcarotsky Date:11/29/2003 1:21:00 PM i have an mpc2000. dont get me wrong, its a great machine....but i havent used it in prob a year. i can do everything software based now that i could do with that machine and every other hardware machine combined (well, almost) i use acid in conjunction with reason. (reason is a propellerhead product) if you are interested in making your own beats and synths in a professional environment, i would SERIOUSLY look into REASON. to answer your question, of course, having hardware (motif, mpc, zoom, things of that sort) are great to have. BUT, i hope you have a VERY deep wallet. my mpc cost me like $1500. i bought reason for $399 and its an mpc2000, motif, korg, multi tracker, effects machine, midi controller, drum machine, EVERYTHING all wrapped into one package. i have been using it for about a year and a half, and i know how to use about 20% of the software. in other words, reason in conjunction with acid gives you a whole studio worth of hardware worth hundreds of thousands of dollars wrapped into 2 software packages and one computer!!!! youd be surprised how many producers (famous, big names) out there barely touch a piece of hardware in the production process!!! its almost all software based now. (once again, not knocking hardware...its just mucho expensive!) good luck, ask away if you have more questions. --marc

Subject:need help makin a beat???

Posted by: cream811

Date:11/29/2003 11:19:43 AM

whats up guys.i been using acid to record vocals for awile now but never used it to make beats.i just started toyin with it and its seems not to be to complicated.can anybody give me tips on where to get free loops and the basic construction of the beat (ex.like do i start with first a loop or syths or drums and kicks,like i said im new so if you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated

Subject:RE: need help makin a beat???

Reply by: marcarotsky

Date:11/29/2003 11:37:21 AM

acid is good if you want to make "simple" beats. its not designed as a "beat box." it is designed as a sequncer. (to sequence existing loops and/or one shots, synth sounds, vocals...things of that sort) BUT, it is possible to lay down a simple kick loop, or kick/ hi-hat loop. when you bought acid, it should have come with a loop cd. there are like 4-500 loops (also one shots. which is what you would use to make your own loops) on those. if i were you, just load a bunch of loops into acid and start playing around. see how acid works...how it stretches samples, key changes, tempo markers, vst plug-ins (which, by the way is where you can download a plug-in vst to make some SERIOUS BEATS!) there are a TON of vst plug-ins for synth sounds, drum machines and so on. (fruity loops, kontact, absynth, atmospheres) just a few examples. fruity loops would be my suggestion for you. it is VERY easy to use and you can come up with some really serious sounds in it. i think its only like 30-40 bux for the full prof. version. just DIVE RIGHT IN. but learn the basics of acid first. i wouldnt worry about making your own beats yet till you learn how to use the sequenceing functions of acid. which is 90% of what acid is designed for. but, dont worry...the learning curve on acid is very quick. just take a few days off from work and you should be all set!!! :-)
--marc

Subject:RE: need help makin a beat???

Reply by: cream811

Date:11/29/2003 11:59:12 AM

i feel you im gonna start messin with it a lil more but rite now i get beats from other poeple to record on.so i load it into acid and record over it.now i hear everybody talkin about mpc 2000 and motif 6,sayin wi would need those peices of hardware to make some killer beats.im bout to get a book on music terminology so i could learn more about the terms taht producers use so ill understand it better.but would i be better off gettin a zoom multitrack recording studio and if som can i use that with acid or how does that work

Subject:RE: need help makin a beat???

Reply by: marcarotsky

Date:11/29/2003 1:21:00 PM

i have an mpc2000. dont get me wrong, its a great machine....but i havent used it in prob a year. i can do everything software based now that i could do with that machine and every other hardware machine combined (well, almost) i use acid in conjunction with reason. (reason is a propellerhead product) if you are interested in making your own beats and synths in a professional environment, i would SERIOUSLY look into REASON. to answer your question, of course, having hardware (motif, mpc, zoom, things of that sort) are great to have. BUT, i hope you have a VERY deep wallet. my mpc cost me like $1500. i bought reason for $399 and its an mpc2000, motif, korg, multi tracker, effects machine, midi controller, drum machine, EVERYTHING all wrapped into one package. i have been using it for about a year and a half, and i know how to use about 20% of the software. in other words, reason in conjunction with acid gives you a whole studio worth of hardware worth hundreds of thousands of dollars wrapped into 2 software packages and one computer!!!!
youd be surprised how many producers (famous, big names) out there barely touch a piece of hardware in the production process!!! its almost all software based now. (once again, not knocking hardware...its just mucho expensive!)
good luck, ask away if you have more questions.
--marc