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Subject:Question about beat matching Posted by: SelecT Date:11/25/2003 10:59:13 AM Very new to all of this so please give me a little help..... I got 4.0 for doing DJ hip hop mixes. Can someone give me a simple step by step at just matching up two tracks..Simple 16 beat intro over a 16 beat outro. Any tricks to lining up the beats preciscley?? Can I stretch one track a little if they aren't perfect?? Any tips/shortcuts definitley appreciated.
Subject:RE: Question about beat matching Reply by: Iacobus Date:11/25/2003 11:12:55 AM Can we have a little more info? Are these samples ACIDized properly? If you didn't know, ACID applies a timestretching (and key stretching) method to Loop and Beatmapped tracks. This method is called "ACIDization". Such samples contain metadata info that ACID reads when the sample is added to the project. If such data is not already embedded within the sample, ACID tries its best to guess, but you're better off if the sample is already ACIDized, especially if its a Loop type track. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page
Subject:RE: Question about beat matching Reply by: marcarotsky Date:11/25/2003 11:20:59 AM 1. when you bring a song into acid, run the beat mapper on the file.. (just say its sean paul, get busy....it will beat map to 100 b.p.m) 2. run the beat mapper on all your songs in the same fashion, just say your second song is "get low" it will beat map to 102 b.p.m. 3. set your acids main project tempo to say, 102 bpm....it will stretch ALL your beatmapped songs to 102. (wether they were beatmapped at 100, 99, 103 or so on...) now you will be able to beat mix your songs perfectly! 4. just remeber, dont try to "DRASTICALLY" stretch any songs. usually a 3-5 BPM stretch is considered in audible in sound quality. anything more than that you will run into the possibility of hearing "time stretching echo" or loss of audio quality. 5. if you need to do drastic BPM changes, insert time and tempo markers in your project to change acids main project tempo. hope this helps... --marc
Subject:RE: Question about beat matching Reply by: SelecT Date:12/5/2003 12:19:51 PM Thanks to both of u for the help... I understand the basics but even when the two tracks are beatmapped, I line up the intro to the outro of the two as best I can and the tempos seem to match, but the beats and claps are still noticably off and not perfect. What am I doing wrong? Am I missing a step?? 1nce again at this point I am just trying simply blend the songs together.. Its almost looking like I should just go back to multitracking and overdubbing with my tables and Cool Edi Prot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject:Question about beat matching

Posted by: SelecT

Date:11/25/2003 10:59:13 AM

Very new to all of this so please give me a little help..... I got 4.0 for doing DJ hip hop mixes. Can someone give me a simple step by step at just matching up two tracks..Simple 16 beat intro over a 16 beat outro. Any tricks to lining up the beats preciscley?? Can I stretch one track a little if they aren't perfect?? Any tips/shortcuts definitley appreciated.

Subject:RE: Question about beat matching

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:11/25/2003 11:12:55 AM

Can we have a little more info? Are these samples ACIDized properly?

If you didn't know, ACID applies a timestretching (and key stretching) method to Loop and Beatmapped tracks. This method is called "ACIDization". Such samples contain metadata info that ACID reads when the sample is added to the project.

If such data is not already embedded within the sample, ACID tries its best to guess, but you're better off if the sample is already ACIDized, especially if its a Loop type track.

HTH,
Iacobus
-------
RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: Question about beat matching

Reply by: marcarotsky

Date:11/25/2003 11:20:59 AM

1. when you bring a song into acid, run the beat mapper on the file..
(just say its sean paul, get busy....it will beat map to 100 b.p.m)
2. run the beat mapper on all your songs in the same fashion, just say your second song is "get low" it will beat map to 102 b.p.m.
3. set your acids main project tempo to say, 102 bpm....it will stretch ALL your beatmapped songs to 102. (wether they were beatmapped at 100, 99, 103 or so on...) now you will be able to beat mix your songs perfectly!
4. just remeber, dont try to "DRASTICALLY" stretch any songs. usually a 3-5 BPM stretch is considered in audible in sound quality. anything more than that you will run into the possibility of hearing "time stretching echo" or loss of audio quality.
5. if you need to do drastic BPM changes, insert time and tempo markers in your project to change acids main project tempo.
hope this helps...
--marc

Subject:RE: Question about beat matching

Reply by: SelecT

Date:12/5/2003 12:19:51 PM

Thanks to both of u for the help... I understand the basics but even when the two tracks are beatmapped, I line up the intro to the outro of the two as best I can and the tempos seem to match, but the beats and claps are still noticably off and not perfect. What am I doing wrong? Am I missing a step?? 1nce again at this point I am just trying simply blend the songs together.. Its almost looking like I should just go back to multitracking and overdubbing with my tables and Cool Edi Prot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!