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Subject:Hard Drive size
Posted by: KevSca
Date:11/20/2003 9:26:15 AM

Now that I'm doing more rendering of keyboard stuff from Reason to Acid, I do notice that the files are taking up more space. Earlier on someone mentioned in the forum that people install a second hard drive dedicated for this purpose. A couple of questions about this issue please. How big of a hard drive would you recommend for someone who is not yet a professional but but more serious than a hobbiest? I really don't want to be caught short on space. Also do you need to install the music apps. on the same hard drive that the music will be recorded on? Any recommendations will be very appreciated!
Regards,
Kev

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/20/2003 10:58:32 AM

I'd say anything in the realm of 120 GB or so is a good start. Remember that to keep things organized or it can get out of control no matter what the size.

Keep your music-related programs (and anything else, including your OS) on the boot drive. Keep anything media-related (like actual loops) on the second drive. If you have a CD or DVD burner, place it as secondary slave.

Keep your boot drive as primary master; place your second drive as secondary master on the secondary IDE channel. More than likely, you should have no problems having the CD/DVD burner sharing the IDE channel with the second hard drive.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:11/20/2003 10:59:29 AM

As big as you can get! There is no such thing as a Hard Drive that's too big!

Seriously, I've been seeing Western Digital drives on sale lately. 120 gig drives w/8 meg cashe for something like $80 after rebates. Just shop around.

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:11/20/2003 2:13:04 PM

The USB2/Firewaire externals are nice, too. I've got an 80G drive dedicated to nothing but loops. Works great.

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: KevSca
Date:11/21/2003 7:27:03 AM

So is FireWire basically somthing external you put a hard drive into and route it to your computers usb port? Sounds cool. Are there any limitations to this?
And does it act in the same manner (accessing my sound files) as an extra harddrive in the PC would? Sorry for all the questions, I'm still new to the technology.
Regards,
Kev

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: drbam
Date:11/21/2003 8:29:31 AM

Firewire and USB are not the same thing. Since you clearly have some confusion about this, its virtually mandatory that you start doing some research and educate yourself further or you'll start running into big time frustration. Although forums such as this can be really helpful, they cannot substitute for a certain degree of basic understanding of your gear. Dig in, read everything you can related to what you want to do; understand as much as possible about your particulary gear, especially your computer and software and what its capable of, then experiment like crazy, and have fun. The more you know, the better some of these veteran forum members will be able to assist you. ;-)

Peace,

drbam

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/22/2003 12:14:26 PM

FireWire and USB 2.0 are two different technologies that let you connect high-speed bandwidth devices such as digital video cameras and external hard drives to your computer.

Your computer might have FireWire ports, USB 2.0 ports or both. It's also a possibility that you might have USB 1.1 (which USB 2.0 is backward compatible with) ports or no ports of any kind at all. You can pick up and install (or have installed) a FireWire or USB 2.0 controller card if that's the case if you want to benefit from those technologies.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: marcarotsky
Date:11/23/2003 12:35:04 AM

fire wire is also VERY FAST!!! (look for the "1394" port on your computer) or usb 2.0. i run an external 80 gb hard drive on usb 2.0 and it blazes!!! it acts the exact same way as if the hard drive were installed IN your system. usb 2.0 and/or fire wire are relatively NEWER technologies, so if your system is a little oder, it might not be equipped with these technology advancements.
--marc

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: KevSca
Date:11/23/2003 8:13:24 AM

Looked under decice mngr. and under the heading, universal serial bus controllers, I have 9 subs. The fifth one says "usb 2.0 hub root". I guess my computer has usb 2.0. But does this mean that all my usb ports are 2.0 or just one? Sorry for my computer un-savvyness!
Regards,
Kev

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/24/2003 10:12:48 AM

They should be all USB 2.0. I really don't know of any systems that have both USB 2.0 and USB 1.1.

USB 2.0 is backward compatible with USB 1.1 as well, so it would kind of defeat the purpose to have USB 1.1-only ports just to get that kind of support.

Usually, each hub has two ports on them. If you double-click on a hub, it should tell you what devices are using which ports on that hub.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: KevSca
Date:11/24/2003 7:13:06 PM

Is the only advantage to having the external hard dives, be it fireWire or USB 2.0, portability? If that's the case, I might as well get more gigs for my money and go with a traditional pc housed one. Right?

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:11/25/2003 10:10:13 AM

I believe that Comp USA is advertising a 160 gig internal drive for Wednesday evening.

http://www.compusa.com/adproducts/thanksgiving03/wednesday/wed_pg1.pdf

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/25/2003 10:30:38 AM

To the first question, basically, yes.

You could certainly go with an internal drive if you don't find going into your system a problem.

I forgot to mention that drives larger than 137 GB might have problems being recognized under certain configurations. For example, a drive larger than 137 GB under Windows XP is not natively supported unless you have Service Pack 1 installed. Be sure to read the documentation that came with your hard drive or go to the hard drive vendor's Web site for more info.

Try to find a drive that has a 3-year warranty (or buy one to extend the typical 1-year warranty) if possible. You'll never know when you might need it. Keep your hard drive's packaging too. Vendors typically have strigent guidelines for returning a drive and usually recommend sending the drive in its original packaging.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:11/26/2003 10:49:32 AM

I just went and bought a Seagate 160 gig drive. I hope I'm not asking for trouble. BTW, I run windows 2000.

Subject:RE: Hard Drive size
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/26/2003 12:03:51 PM

You'll need Service Pack 3 for Windows 2000 to gain full capacity of your 160 GB drive under that OS. Make sure you visit Windows Update to get the service pack if you don't have it.

HTH,
Iacobus
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RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

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