ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? -ACID Product Family

Subject:ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? Posted by: winky Date:11/19/2003 5:03:22 AM Is there a way to change the BPM of a track? -- if I have a DRUM track that's 110 BPM, can I change it to 112, 123, etc? Another thing that's been driving me crazy -- I have all these samples with inaccurate "root notes" in the preference files. I'll have an A MAJOR CHORD, and it'll say ROOT NOTE: D, or something. ... Can I edit this somehow? If I change the ROOT NOTE to A, it changes the pitch of the track. ...If anybody know anything, it'd help me out alot.
Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? Reply by: xxFT13xx Date:11/19/2003 4:13:24 PM 1.) In a sense...no. What you can do is open the drum loop in Sound Forge, edit the BPM in there, then put it back in AP and make it a One Shot, then just copy and paste it 2.) if you right click on the track, then go to the properties, change the root note, then double click on the actual wav in the track and pitchshift it down -Sin
Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? Reply by: DKeenum Date:11/20/2003 7:40:04 AM I hope I don't say this wrong: 1. Double click the wav so it shows up in acids track window. 2. right click and choose properties. 3 you can change the number of beats and the root note here. 4. If you click "save" it changes the wav. If you don't, it is changed only while it is in that track in acid.
Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? Reply by: Iacobus Date:11/20/2003 2:26:41 PM You can try to access the properties of the loop as DKeenum mentioned. Double the number of beats to halve the tempo; halve the number of beats to double the tempo. Note, however, this is not exactly a precise method of getting the precise tempo you want. The method above guarantees the rhythm stays...well...rhythmic to the overall project tempo. A way to get the precise rhythm that you'd want is to solo the drum track, set the Loop Region over the area you'd like to bounce down and use CTRL+M with the "render loop region only" option enabled. When the track is bounced down, the newly rendered sample should take on the properties of the overall project's key and tempo. (Be sure to set the project's key to none when bouncing drum loops.) I should note that when using this method, be sure that the selection you make is correct beat-wise (unless you intend otherwise). For example, be sure the Loop Region begins and ends over four entire beats. You mentioned you have samples that have an A Major chord but are specified as having D Major as their root note in the ACIDized properties. Are these yours? In any case, changing the root note to A wil change the overall pitch of the sample. When ACID applies its key stretching abilities to a loop, it must have something to go on. For example, let's say I create a simple four note melody for a loop: C E G C Let's also say I want this loop to be in the key of C Major, so I assign it as such in Sound Forge, using its ACID Loop Creation Tools. (I'm essentially assigning metadata to the loop, effectively "ACIDizing" the loop.) If I bring this loop into ACID, ACID will look at the metadata for the loop and then take that into account when it key stretches to the overall project key. So, if I brought this loop into ACID, and my overall project key is D, the loop will sound like this: D F# A D Again, that's because ACID sees that the ACIDized loop has the key of C embedded in it and stretches it to D since that's the overall project key. So the same is basically happening to you. ACID is noting you want the loop's root note to be A, and then stretches it to fit the overall project's key. Did that help any? HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page
Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM? Reply by: ATP Date:11/20/2003 2:40:33 PM seeing as you only want to increase a few bpm's, isn't it then easiest to make the track disk-based and then manually change the bpm ?

Subject:ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM?

Posted by: winky

Date:11/19/2003 5:03:22 AM

Is there a way to change the BPM of a track? -- if I have a DRUM track that's 110 BPM, can I change it to 112, 123, etc?

Another thing that's been driving me crazy -- I have all these samples with inaccurate "root notes" in the preference files. I'll have an A MAJOR CHORD, and it'll say ROOT NOTE: D, or something.
... Can I edit this somehow? If I change the ROOT NOTE to A, it changes the pitch of the track.
...If anybody know anything, it'd help me out alot.

Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM?

Reply by: xxFT13xx

Date:11/19/2003 4:13:24 PM

1.) In a sense...no. What you can do is open the drum loop in Sound Forge, edit the BPM in there, then put it back in AP and make it a One Shot, then just copy and paste it

2.) if you right click on the track, then go to the properties, change the root note, then double click on the actual wav in the track and pitchshift it down

-Sin

Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM?

Reply by: DKeenum

Date:11/20/2003 7:40:04 AM

I hope I don't say this wrong:

1. Double click the wav so it shows up in acids track window.
2. right click and choose properties.
3 you can change the number of beats and the root note here.
4. If you click "save" it changes the wav. If you don't, it is changed only while it is in that track in acid.

Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:11/20/2003 2:26:41 PM

You can try to access the properties of the loop as DKeenum mentioned.

Double the number of beats to halve the tempo; halve the number of beats to double the tempo.

Note, however, this is not exactly a precise method of getting the precise tempo you want. The method above guarantees the rhythm stays...well...rhythmic to the overall project tempo.

A way to get the precise rhythm that you'd want is to solo the drum track, set the Loop Region over the area you'd like to bounce down and use CTRL+M with the "render loop region only" option enabled.

When the track is bounced down, the newly rendered sample should take on the properties of the overall project's key and tempo. (Be sure to set the project's key to none when bouncing drum loops.)

I should note that when using this method, be sure that the selection you make is correct beat-wise (unless you intend otherwise). For example, be sure the Loop Region begins and ends over four entire beats.

You mentioned you have samples that have an A Major chord but are specified as having D Major as their root note in the ACIDized properties. Are these yours?

In any case, changing the root note to A wil change the overall pitch of the sample. When ACID applies its key stretching abilities to a loop, it must have something to go on.

For example, let's say I create a simple four note melody for a loop:

C E G C

Let's also say I want this loop to be in the key of C Major, so I assign it as such in Sound Forge, using its ACID Loop Creation Tools. (I'm essentially assigning metadata to the loop, effectively "ACIDizing" the loop.)

If I bring this loop into ACID, ACID will look at the metadata for the loop and then take that into account when it key stretches to the overall project key.

So, if I brought this loop into ACID, and my overall project key is D, the loop will sound like this:

D F# A D

Again, that's because ACID sees that the ACIDized loop has the key of C embedded in it and stretches it to D since that's the overall project key.

So the same is basically happening to you. ACID is noting you want the loop's root note to be A, and then stretches it to fit the overall project's key.

Did that help any?

HTH,
Iacobus
-------
RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid
mD's ACIDplanet Page

Subject:RE: ROOT NOTES are off/Can I CHANGE BPM?

Reply by: ATP

Date:11/20/2003 2:40:33 PM

seeing as you only want to increase a few bpm's, isn't it then easiest to make the track disk-based and then manually change the bpm ?