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Subject:Fades of loops
Posted by: masonjarr
Date:11/15/2003 8:32:22 AM
When I cut a loop, say in half, how do I extend that last note. It just abruptly ends. I want to extend that note and then fade it out. Thanks. |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: marcarotsky
Date:11/15/2003 12:14:42 PM
turn off snapping (F8) and just drag the loop to the right to resize it. or better yet, bring it into your editor (hopefully you have one) and edit the loop. then just insert your envelope for volume. --marc |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: masonjarr
Date:11/15/2003 12:37:06 PM
With snaping turned off, I drag the loop to the right and it just get longer with nothing extended. The note just ends as it did before. The loop is longer with nothing there. I'm a newbie so excuse my unfamiliarity with things. Could you be more precise? Thanks. |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:11/15/2003 1:54:36 PM
You've stumbled onto one of the challenges of Acid -- you can't really "extend" part of a loop. You can bring it into an editor (like Forge), isolate the sound you want to extend and stretch it (maintaining pitch), but that doesn't always sound very good and will not hold long enough for a "fade out" generally. If you're making your own loops, you can always create your "hold." If you dig around, you can find some libraries out there that offer "holds" & "sustains" as part of the package, but in general, you don't get them much of the time. If you want something to "end" without fading the whole mix out, there are some tricks you'll pick up. It just takes some practice & experimentation. |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: masonjarr
Date:11/15/2003 2:43:23 PM
Yes, I can extend the note by manually doing a short 'cut 'n' paste' of the last part of the note. I always get glitches during play back when going over each slice, though. I was hoping there was a way to do it that I wasn't aware of. Thanks for the reply. |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/15/2003 3:11:14 PM
Hello (and welcome) Charles! From the sounds of it, you want to simply extend the right edge of an event so that the note doesn't get cut off? Try this: With the Pencil Tool active, bring your mouse cursor to the right edge of the event. It should turn into a horizontal, double-headed arrow with a little event diagram behind it. Click and drag to the right. You can toggle snapping by pressing F8 as marc mentioned. You also have the option of temporarily turning snapping off by holding down SHIFT. (Be sure to click and hold before pressing the SHIFT key.) As far as fading out goes, there are a couple of ways within ACID itself. You can use a volume envelope as marc also mentioned, or you can use a Quick Fade, which is implemented by hovering your mouse cursor around the upper right corner of the event and then dragging to the left. (The mouse cursor should turn into a horizontal, double-headed arrow with a little fade diagram behind it.) With Quick Fades, you can also change the type of fade by right-clicking the fade and then choosing Fade Types and then a fade. You can use an external digital audio editor like Sound Forge to also create a fade on the loop, but note this is a destructive method. The methods I described above do not actually alter the original loop in any way. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: Jessariah
Date:11/16/2003 9:22:15 AM
You have to keep in mind that loops are waves. If you had a song in wave form and the singer shouts HEY! at the end of a line, there's really no natural way to turn that into a sustained HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY! Sometimes, depending on the actual legnth and decay of the note you want to sustain, you can try this: Duplicate the loop's track. In the first track, use the pencil tool to drag the end of the loop to where you would like the "sustain" to begin (you may have to turn off snapping). Using the chopper or pencil tool, isolate the part of the loop you want to sustain in the second track (if it has a sharp attack, make sure you exclude the very beginning of it). Duplicate that same partial loop in the first track. Now you have three elements: the end of the loop on the first track, and the short amount of "sustain" you want in both tracks. Using CTRL+drag, make several copies of the "sustain" partial loop in both tracks, then stagger them, like bricks on a wall, and fade one out as you fade the alternate one in, in effect, creating a series of crossfades. If it works, then simply fade it out using the volume envelope on your master track. The longer the sample & less decay there is, the more successful this trick can be. HTH |
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Subject:RE: Fades of loops
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/17/2003 12:43:43 PM
Jess gave a great tip. Note that the results may vary depending on the source material—it could sound artificial if not done right. Unless that's your goal. ;o) Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |