tracklisting help for recording from vinyl -Sound Forge - PC

Subject:tracklisting help for recording from vinyl Posted by: firestarter Date:10/20/2003 5:58:47 AM hello everyone. i'm using sound forge studio 6.0 to record mix cd's form vinyl, as well as recording some old tracks. my question is, how can i change a 70 minute mix of music into 70 minute mix of (for example) 15 tracks that can be skipped through on a cd. or, if i record an album from vinyl, how can i have a cd that contains all 10 album tracks instead of 1 long track (ie one side of a vinyl album) your help would be greatly appreciated rad d
Subject:RE: tracklisting help for recording from vinyl Reply by: Waskel Date:10/20/2003 9:50:27 AM If the vinyl is separate, discrete tracks with silence between them, just record each track individually. If all the tracks crossfade into each other (i.e. Dark Side of the Moon), then you have to make some choices, and they depend on what software you happen to have. Record the entire side of the LP as one file in SF. If you have CD Architect or a similar product, you can then use it to set track markers and burn it, and you won't hear any gaps between tracks. Otherwise, you can use something like Nero, which has an indexes and splits tool in the track properties page. If you use this to split up the tracks, then change the between-track pause to zero it accomplishes almost the same thing, but you WILL hear a very brief silence at the track change. HopeThisHelps. Waskel
Subject:RE: tracklisting help for recording from vinyl Reply by: MJhig Date:10/20/2003 9:53:31 AM Repost; Here's my method of converting my vinyl to CD using Sound Forge. This works well for me. First and probably most important is to make sure the LPs are as clean as possible, the stylis, turntable, preamp and connections are in excellent shape of course. Keeping in mind "less processing is more"... Set the recording level peaks at about -6 to -3 dB. This makes the Plugin Chainer settings work without much tweaking. Record the whole album as one file, this way the relationship remains intact between tracks as it was originally mastered. When recording is complete, Delete the spike sometimes produced by the stylis making contact at the start of each side of the LP. Set up a Plugin Chain this way in this order; Click and Crackle Removal (More conservative, for vinyl recordings) > Graphic EQ (Really don't do much here, just roll off Freq's below 20 Hz and compensate for LPs cutting everything below 7 kHz by -3 dB) > Wave Hammer (using the preset "Limit at -6 dB and maximize, change the maxamizer's threshold to -4 dB and the output level to - 0.3 compressing just enough to compare to today's CDs). Save as a Preset chain called something like "LP". Highlight the hottest part of the file either by visually looking at the waveform or using Tools > Statistics > Maximum Sample, open the Plugin Chainer, preview that selection adjusting the volume fader on the Graphic EQ until the peaks are as close to 0 db without going over in the input meter on the Wave Hammer Volume Maximizer page. This saves an extra process (normalize) on the data. If there is no blank space between songs; Place the cursor at the start of the audio in the file. Press "m" to insert a marker. Press the spacebar to start playback. Press "m" again at the crossfade location to insert another marker. Repeat to the end. Click Special > Regions List > Markers to Regions, when prompted click yes or ok. In the Regions List window highlight a region click enter to edit name. Click tools > Extract Regions and save them to a folder and burn them all in your burning software using DAO (disk at once) to prevent spaces between tracks. If you have blank space to eliminate between songs; Press "[" at the start of the song. Press spacebar to start playback. Press "]" at the end. Press "r" to create region and name it. Repeat to the end. Fade heads and tails of each track Click tools > Extract Regions and save them to a folder and burn them all in your burning software using DAO (disk at once). MJ

Repost;

Here's my method of converting my vinyl to CD using Sound Forge. This works well for me.

First and probably most important is to make sure the LPs are as clean as possible, the stylis, turntable, preamp and connections are in excellent shape of course.

Keeping in mind "less processing is more"...

Set the recording level peaks at about -6 to -3 dB. This makes the Plugin Chainer settings work without much tweaking.

Record the whole album as one file, this way the relationship remains intact between tracks as it was originally mastered.

When recording is complete, Delete the spike sometimes produced by the stylis making contact at the start of each side of the LP.

Set up a Plugin Chain this way in this order;

Click and Crackle Removal (More conservative, for vinyl recordings) > Graphic EQ (Really don't do much here, just roll off Freq's below 20 Hz and compensate for LPs cutting everything below 7 kHz by -3 dB) > Wave Hammer (using the preset "Limit at -6 dB and maximize, change the maxamizer's threshold to -4 dB and the output level to - 0.3 compressing just enough to compare to today's CDs). Save as a Preset chain called something like "LP".

Highlight the hottest part of the file either by visually looking at the waveform or using Tools > Statistics > Maximum Sample, open the Plugin Chainer, preview that selection adjusting the volume fader on the Graphic EQ until the peaks are as close to 0 db without going over in the input meter on the Wave Hammer Volume Maximizer page. This saves an extra process (normalize) on the data.

If there is no blank space between songs;

Place the cursor at the start of the audio in the file.

Press "m" to insert a marker.

Press the spacebar to start playback.

Press "m" again at the crossfade location to insert another marker. Repeat to the end.

Click Special > Regions List > Markers to Regions, when prompted click yes or ok.

In the Regions List window highlight a region click enter to edit name.

Click tools > Extract Regions and save them to a folder and burn them all in your burning software using DAO (disk at once) to prevent spaces between tracks.

If you have blank space to eliminate between songs;

Press "[" at the start of the song.

Press spacebar to start playback.

Press "]" at the end.

Press "r" to create region and name it.

Repeat to the end.

Fade heads and tails of each track

Click tools > Extract Regions and save them to a folder and burn them all in your burning software using DAO (disk at once).

MJ