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Subject:Atmosphere
Posted by: DKeenum
Date:9/26/2003 11:58:34 AM
Is there any of you out there that are succesfully using Atmosphere as a VSTi in Acid. There were some stability issues back about 4.0b, and I was wondering if the issues had been worked out. The intrument looks wonderful, but Acid is my only host that uses VSTis. I know I'm rather limited, but acid has been working for me. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/26/2003 1:38:30 PM
I don't use it, but have you tried it anyway? I've heard a lot of VSTi's that weren't working before work just fine now. Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:9/26/2003 1:50:27 PM
I haven't tried it, because there is no demo for the spectrasonic stuff. But everywhere I turn people are saying how great atmosphere is. I'd love to be able to use it. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:9/26/2003 3:17:36 PM
Atmosphere works just fine in Acid Pro 4e. I use it extensively (NOBODY else has the strings you can get from Atmosphere!), using the FXpansion wrapper. Bear in mind the data file for Atmosphere is 3GB and place it carefully when you install it as the only way to move it is to reinstall. Also make sure you have plenty of processor power and memory - it's a hog, especially with multiple instances. But worth it, if you want seriously good sounds, and lots of them, at your fingertips. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: drbam
Date:9/26/2003 6:12:27 PM
>>Bear in mind the data file for Atmosphere is 3GB and place it carefully when you install it as the only way to move it is to reinstall.<< Waskel: Can you be a bit more specific regarding installation of Atmosphere. I'm considering purchasing it and would use it in Acid as well. Any additional input would be appreciated. Thanks, drbam |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:9/29/2003 9:40:33 AM
No problem. Atmosphere uses a separate data file, or core library, as most of Spectrasonic's stuff does (Stylus, Trilogy). When you install it (6 disks!!!) the location of this data file is incorporated into the DLL. You can move the DLL file anywhere you want to, but if you move the data file, or rename it or the folder it's in, or otherwise make the path to it different, the DLL can't find it. The only way to move the data file is to uninstall Atmosphere then reinstall it. I only make a point about this because the install is a 1 to 2 hour process, depending on your machine configuration. Try to install it on a fast drive, not your system drive, because many of the samples are large (50 to 100 Mb) and they will load faster. Hope this helps, John. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:9/29/2003 9:57:28 AM
What processor do you have? ram? I'm sure this would affect the performance. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:9/29/2003 10:33:32 AM
I'm running a 2.4 P4 with a 533 FSB (missed the 800 FSB by 2 weeks, story of my life), 512Mb of PC2700 ram, two 120Gb 7200 RPM drives, M-audio 24/96 audiophile card. The biggest impact on Atmosphere's performance will be your RAM. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:9/30/2003 11:41:24 AM
Is 512 MB ram enough? Yours doesn't bog down does it? |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:9/30/2003 2:33:30 PM
No, not really. I've had up to 5 or 6 different instances running, and it may have problems if you have a whole lot of different loops loaded as well (as they reside in memory), but I haven't experienced any problems. Then again, more memory is always better. I plan to add another 512 soon just to have it available. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:9/30/2003 7:15:58 PM
Atmosphere runs fine here on P4 1.7 to 2.4 Ghz PC800 ram Acid 4.0e build 408 Win XP Pro Sp1 Digi 001 ASIO Digi TDM Mix ASIO MOTU-2408 ASIO Darla 20 and Gina 24 ASIO George Ware |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: analoguekid
Date:9/30/2003 10:31:03 PM
I've got a tune right now that used 4 Atmos plus 1 Discovery plus 1 sample tank. I've got a 2.2 AMD AXP and 512. I haven't had any problems at all. You won't go wrong getting this instrument! |
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Subject:the real deal about atmosphere
Reply by: Jacose
Date:9/30/2003 11:52:29 PM
1. Atmosphere is WORTH the money... its really just samples, but there are tons of options with filters and such, as well as layering. 2. YOU DONT NEED TO REINSTALL!!! (to move the sounds) if you are saavy with the registry, you can find out where the .dll is pointing for the sounds, and change the path, or just use the SPECTRAMOVE util that regged users can get at the spectrasonics site. atmoshphere ROCKS~! |
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Subject:RE: the real deal about atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:10/1/2003 7:54:58 PM
We have a winner!! Thanks, Squall, for that tip. That's a utility I wasn't aware of. Stupid of me not to think about checking the registry, I had read somewhere that it actually wrote the location to the dll. John. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: DKeenum
Date:10/2/2003 11:00:09 AM
I listened to the atmosphere demos. Wow! I am impressed. I've been a little worried about stability issues, but that seems to be all good. But I'm thinking that my old 1.2 gHz is just too slow, so I guess I'll have to upgrade. sigh. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: Waskel
Date:10/2/2003 12:02:02 PM
Try it first (unless, like me, any reason is good enough to justify upgrading...). Most of the slowness with Atmosphere will be the time it takes to load samples, so if you don't mind waiting a few more seconds when changing patches looking for the right one, it will probably be ok when actually playing. John. |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: KevSca
Date:11/27/2003 7:59:26 AM
Hey, I did a search in the forum for Atmosphere users using Acid and had a question myself. Anybody who is doing dark ambient (or any ambient form) stuff with acid, how do you like using Atmosphere with it? Is the softsynth (Atmosphrere) "the" definitive softsynth for doing this type of composition? I'm cosidering buying a vsti to use with acid (I'm using Reason now) and am looking for something to do disturbing errie soundscapes with. Any suggestions and direction would greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Kev |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: L25
Date:11/27/2003 3:00:43 PM
You might consider absynth. However, they are still working out some issues since the 2.0 release. I have always had problems with absynth with ACID. So for now I end up rendering out the MIDI track ASAP. I am hoping the next update improves things. I am clingy to an ACID/Absynth potential. You might also check out crystal (free) amazing stuff, but very cpu hungry http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/download.html |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: KevSca
Date:11/27/2003 4:22:30 PM
I have an older version of absynth (1.3). Are you rendering to wav asap with ver 2.0 because of crashing? Also I was going to ask this question at one point or another about rendering from midi to wav so I'll ask now. When you do this, (usually to save cpu, right?) are the only disadavntages, not being able to change midi notes and such? I was wondering if it also effects sound quality. I was thinking not, because you eventually render everything down to an audio format anyway. Correct? Thanks in advance for any info. Regards, Kev |
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Subject:RE: Atmosphere
Reply by: L25
Date:11/27/2003 5:46:09 PM
I render the absy MIDI track to a wav for stability and patch saving reasons, cpu does not seem to be a factor for me. I still keep the MIDI track but I just mute it. Usually I have multiple instances. Absynth will switch back to the default patch when I toggle instances, some folks don't have this problem, but I do. I have not been using my computer for several months while doing some home improvements, I keep hoping that absynth gets that next patch out. L |