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Subject:Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Posted by: SonyJennL Date:9/11/2003 5:51:48 PM Ok, here's the deal... We would greatly appreciate knowing what users would like to see in future ACID releases but so far threads have become long, filled with crosstalk, and not so informative... just more of a debate. So here are the ground rules for this thread: 1. List 3-5 features that you feel YOU MUST have/need in ACID and WHY. List them in order of importance and if there's only 1 major thing and 2 smaller requests make that apparent. 2. Give us a brief explanation of any features you don't think are clear by your feature name. You are not allowed: 1. To comment on other users posts 2. To discuss ideas you haven't really formulated (take it to a new thread) 3. To flame. 4. To post more than five features to this thread. If you do... YOUR POST WILL BE DELETED. *This is not to be mean, just to make this thread quick and informative for us. Thanks everyone! We look forward to your responses. -the ACID team [EDIT] NOTE: If you think of something after you post... please edit your previous post rather than adding another post. Thanks! [END EDIT]
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: SonicJG Date:9/11/2003 7:11:48 PM So people can see what kind of format we're hoping for, I will start. :) Feature 1: Recording improvements. I would like recording to be moved out of the modal record dialog, so that I can: record midi and audio at the same time, record more than one audio input at once, and have real-time effects monitoring. Feature 2: Tempo-based effects. If I have a loop that's 4 measures long, I could set a flange/chorus/phase/wah/amp-mod/etc oscillating parameter to repeat its period on that track/bus once every X beats/measures, and also be able to set a phase offset for it. Even better if I could have the parameters that don't typically oscillate (e.g.-depth/wet-out) be able to change according to some period. Why? You could really get some great sounds. Feature 3: Group and collapse tracks. Self-explanatory--when a submix of a portion of my project is done, I'd like to save vertical space. Scrolling 80 tracks gets to be a bit much. FWIW, just because I work here doesn't really make it any more likely that these will happen, but here's hoping. :) Also, please don't just echo what I said, or what another poster on this thread says. Spend some time thinking about what you really could use, because you only get to vote on this thread once! Cheers, Joel
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: teknik14 Date:9/11/2003 7:45:11 PM These might already be in the works, but here's my two cents: 1. It would rock to have ACID use system RAM instead of CPU and the hard drives as much as possible, especially for 'one-shots'. Why? So that a DAW... even with tons of RAM and a fast CPU... doesn't start chugging and spewing audio when a number of one-shot audio tracks are placed in a project, bogging down the CPU... making for some VERY frustrating mix downs. 2. I'd love to see SF develop and include an FX suite in ACID similar to the 'Waves' suite (or similar) of plug in's. Why? Because it would alleviate many hours of effort and frustration that ensue trying to 'sync up' 3rd party FX that do not support ACID! Plus, the current suite of SF FX are quite limited in their functionality. Thanks! :-) teknik14
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: buckaroo Date:9/12/2003 4:52:11 AM 1. Acid as a REWIRE Slave!!!! - would be great to use acid's looping etc in conjuction with something else.. 2. If not Rewire, what about a better implented MIDI? - i know its not Acid's forte but with midi gear and Audio (i can only just finish a track completley in Acid - although the Audio side is second to none.. My 2 cents :-) - thanks
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ramone Date:9/12/2003 6:04:57 AM I'd like to see a mixer page. why? because I don't need to see the arrangement during the mix phase of production and the current set-up is a little clunky. it would be more convienent to have access to volume, fx, panning, etc all at once instead of having to select each feature from a pull down menu.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: DKeenum Date:9/12/2003 8:49:28 AM Thanks for listening! 1. Develop MIDI recording and editing. Integrate midi into the over-all application. 2. Improve recording. 3. tremolo DX - tempo based if possible.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: luces Date:9/12/2003 10:54:19 AM I would like the following: 1.To see my midi tracks scroll in sync to the main tracks when I play and record.(overall more miidi integration) 2.Better ram support for One shots. 3. a seperate mixer window for easier access to track elements without having to expand and collapse tracks. Thanks,Luces
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: dkistner Date:9/12/2003 11:04:58 AM 1. Ability to arrange small midi loops into a project, then export the whole lot to a midi file that reflects that arrangement (including channel assignments). This is by far the most important feature request I have. It would open up a whole world of compositional creativity...and it's why I originally bought Acid, because I thought it could do this. Not. 2. Ability to read varying tempo instructions from midi files, and to accept tempos slower than 40bpm. I create midi files in a scoring program that allows for smooth ritardandos and accelerandos, plus fractional tempos in general (e.g., 79.24bpm). I'd like to be able to preserve this work when it's pulled into Acid. As it stands now, I don't do any midi work in Acid because of the tempo restrictions. 3. Ability to set options with a choice of how midi files will be imported into Acid. One option could be to import them as they now come in, as one track. The other option could be to import them with the separate channels split to separate tracks. The ability to bypass the default setting with a right-click/select import option would be nice, too. (In other words, the ability to do what we now can only do using something like Geniesys' Stolen Track.) Basically, any solution that will allow us to more easily apply VSTis to discrete midi channels without a lot of manual splitting would be a real boon. 4. Ability to integrate with alternate tuning programs such as Scala and Fractal Tune Smithy, via midi router if nothing else. I now do my retunings by relaying midi from my scoring program through FTS into Chainer/VSTis. I only pull audio into Acid. This is efficient for me, but coupled with #1, it could be quite powerful to do it in Acid. 5. VST effects support. I now use a wrapper, but it would be nice not to have to do that.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Spheris Date:9/12/2003 12:50:24 PM 1. A better formulated midi editing capability or perhaps integration of the geniesys midi editor if some deal can be struck 2. drop of vst support in favor of DXI support or at least DXI support and the integration of a suitable vst wrapper in a native context. 3 better resampling facilities 4. better scaling of the pop up menus
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: SonicElement Date:9/12/2003 1:24:47 PM Improved midi recording/editing/sequencing. Don't wanna use a separate application from another company to get decent use out of my controller/synths. ACID's so close to being the only software I need to do a song start to finish.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ozzborn Date:9/12/2003 3:18:13 PM 1. vst effects only because of powercore and uad cards 2. midi scrolling when you edit notes in the piano roll editor i want to hear the music play from the project ,as well as the sound im editing. 3. more midi effects/drum editor swing,quantize, [EDIT + contents of later post] i forgot one very important feature 4. freeze tracks to save cpu cycles
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Spheris Date:9/12/2003 4:28:11 PM Thought of one additional thing 4. low latency WDM support
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: MyST Date:9/12/2003 4:36:57 PM Don't know if this is even doable but... 1: Tempo envelopes Works just like Pan and Volume envelopes. 2: A noise reduction plug-in included with Acid Pro 5.0. Even if it's a Lite version of the one sold now. Working with pre-recorded loops make this plug-in essential. I know, I purchased Noise Reduction for just this reason. I think it would be a good feature to entice more buyers. I reserve my other 3 for later. ;) M
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: dorkus Date:9/12/2003 5:54:49 PM In order: 1. As in Acid 2.0: you can hit play in a docking properties window to preview loops that are already in your project. Then you don't have to draw it out to remind yourself of what it is. (Make sense?) I will often choose 20 different loops for a part, and then start eliminating. It sucks when you have to draw them all out, mute them all, etc. I miss this feature badly. 2. Monitoring effects while recording. 3. Auto punch-in recording similar to Sonar. 4. Better and more color choices. 5. More recording inputs. Give me these and I'll never need to use another program.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Jacose Date:9/12/2003 9:07:04 PM 1. vegas style recording track, not all of the tracks, just a selectable track. i.e - Beatmapped track looops track one shot vegas style track 2. MIDI tempo track (or tempo envelope, but responds to midi and sends midi to vstis and dx 3. collapsable folder grouping 4. vsti automation envelopes for all parameters 5. reverse sample/pitch envelopes (figured it was pretty similar, such as fl's wave traveller)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Spirit Date:9/12/2003 10:06:03 PM My votes: 1) The "Super-Chopper". The chopper is a great tool, and I think has the potential to be an even more creative aid in composition, mangling and even loop creation. What I'd like to see incorporated is a simple slicer based on either time or amplitude (or both). Individual slices could then be dragged around, reversed or exported to SoundForge and mangled there. Another important function of the Super-Chopper would be direct wav export. You'd simply define the area of the track you want in the chopper, then hit a button and it would automatically save a new wave file into a selected folder. The function would be basically the same as the "still snapshot" function in Vegas. This would also be good with an improved track function. Already you can sort of create pitch envelopes, but it would be good to formalise this: one slice an octave up, next slice five steps down etc 2) A defined-length recording window. You select an area of the song that you want to record, for example, bars 14 - 19. You arm a track and hit record. You can move the cursor to start playing at, say, bar 10, but only the area you previously defined (ie bars 14 - 19) will be recorded. 3) A "delete orphan files" function. This is a similar concept to that in Tracktion. You hit this option and any file not used in the song is deleted. Likewise, if you've recorded some massively long wave file, but only a few seconds of it appears in the track, the file is truncated to only that which plays. This option could appear at the "save project" stag next to the "save all files with project" option. 4) Improved MIDI recording. I'd like to see a looped overdub option. You define the section of the track you want looped and hit record. The track loops and you keep playing - the layers build up into one thick track. 5) "No tempo" project option. I'd like to be able to start a project where whatever I dragged in would always play at it's original length and tempo. This would mean you could use the tracks in Acid to easily mix normal audio like simple voice-over narrations and an evironmental sound track.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ozzborn Date:9/12/2003 11:46:08 PM [deleted for reposting]
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: dBPLUS Date:9/13/2003 4:25:42 AM 1. Proper Midi implementation. Not needing to have to save each midi file as a separate file, punch in punch out midi recording. Groove quantise etc. All of this is what keeps me from using AICD as my main sequencer. 2. Punch in / Punch out recording. Having to stop the music when you want to record is a real pain and can really interrupt the work flow. 3. VSTi Automation. That's a big must. ALso if automation is added a midi learn feature should be added as well :-) 4. Curve drawing tool for automation (vsti, FX param and volume etc) 5. Better management of audio tracks, for example if I move a project from one drive to another then cid doesn't remember what wheterh a sample was a one shot or loop. If working on remixes I will often use some samples as a one shot and others in a diff project as loops. If I move the project I have to make a note of how each sample functions.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: BWO Date:9/13/2003 8:28:36 AM Better 5.1 surround tools 1. Surround panner with discreet center channel. 2. Set of 5.1 effects (reverb, delay, eq & dynamics).
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: slcrz Date:9/13/2003 11:56:37 AM Hi, here are some main features I would like to see in the upcoming Acid. 1. Direct Input Monitoring, for use of Vocoder and Fx in real time. 2. Proper audio mixing console (with correct handling of VSTi multi outputs). 3. Proper Midi editing capabilities and/or correct location of edited midi part in playback. 4. Multitracks recording capabilities. 5. Punch in, Punch out !!! 6. Automatic Crossfade between parts ( Vegas Style ) 7. VST FX support. 8. Metronome !!! I think that with the implentation of some of these main features, Acid will get close of being Perfect. TX Sofo.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: plastique Date:9/13/2003 2:49:46 PM Feature 1: better filemanagement , something like having project folders , somehow without having to collect all different sources together again after having made changes Feature 2: possibility to use VSTFX/VSTi/DX/DXi and to control/envelope their parameter automisation Feature 3: curve/line drawing tool (where it suits) Feature 4: to be able to record midi/audio at the same time Feature 5: surprise us ... ! thanks and best regards, plastique
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: IanF Date:9/13/2003 5:51:01 PM 1. Metronome with count in for recording 2. VST FX 3. Direct Monitoring with FX while recording 4. Rewire Client Ian F
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Tech44 Date:9/14/2003 1:20:12 AM Feature 1: VST Effects to increase the amount of flexibility of effects available in ACID Feature 2: VST/VSTi automation to add flexibility to generated/effected sound Feature 3: Improved MIDI editing/recording facilities Feature 4: A facility to render to a .veg Vegas-compatible project for finalizing and multitrack work.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Zacchino Date:9/14/2003 1:39:14 AM 1. Direct Input (that's what i call real time creativity) 2. Crossfade on the same track, Pitch Envellopes, Reverse capabilities 3. "Track Mixer Tab / Acid Style Track's Direct Mixers" as tool bar switching button, AND in the option menu,as a default when starting check box. (i've read the other posts and i think that's the best way to make everyone happy) 4. VSTi Automation Envellope (drawn in a MIDI-OPT style default tab), VST effect support with their full automation. ACD file saving, equals Saving midi track file that has been modified by Acid. I know that must be a lot of work, but it's the price so that peeps don't change software sequencer thinking that it'll go "has been" !
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: RasKeita Date:9/14/2003 2:44:45 AM 1) Rewire slave capability... Improve on the features that already exist in Acid. Perhaps refine Acid 3.0 as a VSTi that way Acid can remain stable and affordable. Retain the stability and actions of 3.0 get rid of MIDI and all the other new features. Enhance what has been shown to work effectively, dump the rest. Keep Acid what it truly is the ultimate professional loop based production tool. Adding all sorts of new features and functions would make 5.0 less stable then 4.0, and no doubt increase the cost considerably. 2) Free Upgrade... For those of us that have proven to be loyal SF supporters/customers. Those that endured the initial 4.0 release debacle deserve a break some incentive. What with all the talk of improvements and added features, I find I'm leery. MIDI implementation,VSTi support,5.1 Surround Sound functions still leave me a bit disappointed in 4.0 so why invest in yet another newer, bigger, better. 3) Improved Audio Engine... The difference between Acid and other appz is apparent. 4) Vocal Remover, Inspiration Button, Virtual Producer, Instant Chart Topper Device... Just a little levity...Level Vibes
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: doctorfish Date:9/14/2003 7:38:24 AM 1. Save as .veg file. This would be a great time saver when I have a rhythm bed and I want to export the tracks to waves and open them in Vegas to add guitar, bass, keys, and vocals. I would like to see two ways to go about it. One is to export each track (effects and all) as a wave and create a .veg file in which all the tracks line up as they are in ACID. The second way would be to export each bus (again effects and all) as a wave file (this is my preferred way) and likewise have a .veg file created in which the bus tracks are arranged accordingly. 2. Correct me if this already exists, but I'd like to be able to render each bus (not each track) as a wave file. I thought this was already a feature but I just tried to do it and couldn't find a way. The help file has a listing to "Render each bus as a wave" but this only gives information on rendering each TRACK. My first idea for exporting as a .veg file would take care of this, but if we don't get the .veg export, I'd at least like to see this. 3. Better recording capabilities, more Vegas style. Let me create a track and name it first and then choose to record. I hate having to retype the recorded track name EVERY TIME I want to record something. And also having to delete all the extra tracks created in those times when the musician needs more than a few takes to get it right. 4. Destructive recording. I've seen this in Pro Tools. I'd like to be able to choose to record over an already existing file. I don't mind having only one loop, sound, wave, or whatever per track but that considered, if I record something that I'm not happy with, I'd like to have the option to be able to record back on the same track, with the same file name and erase the unusable file, just record right over it so that I don't have to find it and delete it later. This makes file management easier, saves disk space, and saves me a lot of time later deleting unwanted tracks. 5. Also with recording, I'd like to be able to set a default project recording folder like in Vegas, or have it at least default to the same folder (or have the option to set is as such) as the ACID file itself. I don't like having it default to "My Documents" or to the ACID program folder.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fuzzy Date:9/14/2003 8:00:25 AM 1. Add VST effects & DX instruments support. 2. Make Acid a ReWire client.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: slcrz Date:9/14/2003 12:37:20 PM [DELETED FOR REPOST]
Subject:RE: ACID 5 feature requests = my two cents Reply by: coolout Date:9/14/2003 4:35:27 PM i didn't get a chance to finish this...so here we go 1. of course rewire slave 2. dedicated mixer page with support for external controllers like the mackie and tascam stuff - yeah i know some people don't want the clutter of another page, but mixing on horizontal faders can be tough to get use to. 3. live triggering of loops with quantize - let's kick abelton's ass 4. support for recording more than stereo - i just might need to record a full band or strings someday and i'd rather do it with acid 5. vst support 6. please no metronome, punch in or count in i always hated that stuff cluttering up the transport 7. freeze - (as i'm mobbin wit the dog pound feel the breeze...biiach) 8. i almost forgot...NON-DISTRUCTIVE REVERSE - the only time i have to use an external editor is to reverse cymbals, guitars, and profanity.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: bitbopper Date:9/14/2003 4:59:25 PM 1) vst effects fully automatable in realtime (along with the onboard effects) There are so many VST effects out there that it is a must ACID have them. You can even build yours with Synthedit and with the coming of Pluggo for Windows, it is a must! 2) Rewire Slave. I wanna be able to sync Acid to an host sequencer. I found that the looping functions in the major SEQ suck major. 3) A freeze function. I wanna be able to freeze the audiotracks or VSTis tracks with the effects so that I can use more things inside ACID. A freeze like the one in Samplitude, Logic 6 or tracktion is what I'm talking about. 4) A metronome and a count-in - Sometimes, I just like to start with me playing something on the track without having to set-up a cowbell on a track or use a sampler to make a click. Too much work for nothing. 5) better midi editor. I would like to be able to edit velocity on a note basis for stacked notes. In Cubase or logic, when ya click on a note, you can edit the velocity for that note only. It is quite useful for drums which are stacked mostly.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: DJ_Don Date:9/14/2003 6:10:30 PM Since mine are pretty much covered already, let me just elaborate a little on what I'd like as it relates to what's already been listed: 1) As far as better MIDI functionality, I would love to see something like a mini piano roll view that's right in the main Acid window along with all the rest of the tracks. You could record MIDI right into the track from there in step time, real time, or be able to draw the notes in. 2) Be able to use the current preset envelope curves with MIDI CC's right in the main Acid screen as well. You could then draw in (for instance) a filter frequency CC and see how it rises and falls right along with the rest of the track. Doing this in the current piano roll view isn't very accurate, and you have to leave the main window to draw them in. 3) A metronome would be cool, but not essential. I usually just paint in a short hi-hat hit in quarter notes across a project, and there you go. However, a dedicated metronome would save on having yet another track in an already-crowded project, so go for it, if it's feasible. 4) Collapsible track groups would be amazing, especially when you can easily have up to 10 or more tracks just for drums, 3 - 5 tracks for different bass parts, etc. Better yet, allow a function for combining tracks into one stereo track like Vegas. I realize you can do this with rendering, but simply dragging 3 or 4 tracks into one would be even better. I have more, but this will do for now. Thanks for listening--if you even do a couple of the things that have been mentioned, 5.0 will absolutely smoke. I can't wait! Peace.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jazzspin Date:9/15/2003 10:40:46 AM Hi There. In short ; 1)Sonic foundry would produce a machine like tascam fw 1884 or digi 002 which could both record directly with the firewire connection into the acid five and than the pods should be automated and the mixing would be a breeze (daw mentality) . I would be the first one who would buy this machine. :) 2)There would be a mixer window that showing all the mixer functions in detail. it would be like in the protools 5.3.2 that i am using. it is so simple.Or like in the cubase with great detail like the pro tools with the same easy usage but little more detailed than protools. 3)There should be plug-ins loaded with acid 5 like it is in the fruity loops. It might be a drum machine , a synth , scratch generator (with a proper usage , most programs have it but mostly all are a piece of crap )... etc. So the vst power also be in it..
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: QuincyJ Date:9/16/2003 8:27:57 AM For this one feature along i would pay for an UPGRADE: 1. Support the IMPORTING of MULTI-CHANNEL .wav File. 2. TimeStamping (BWF format) for exported files. These options would greatly increase the ease of LOADING Acid Built Tracks to dedicated DAW (DPS24)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ATP Date:9/16/2003 10:17:42 AM 1. - ACID as a VSTi. why? let's face it, Midi implementation in ACID is cumbersome, user-UNfriendly and basically severely lacking in the functionality department. PLUS, since the Midi implementation is supposed to fit into ACID's paradigm (which has been eloquently explained by Iacobus in previous posts) i don't expect spectacular improvements in this area. ACID as a VSTi would allow me to use the superior Midi functionality of Cubase in conjunction with the (obviously) superior loop based functions ACID is renowned for. this way, i can combine the best of both worlds without diminishing the importance (or amount of usage) of the ACID application. i think it's time SF learned that it's not a bad thing to combine multiple audio programs and use them together to create music. should point 1 prove to be asking too much (which i can imagine, considering the amount of work that needs to be put into ACID to make it a veritable VSTi) i would have to opt for 2. - better Midi implementation now, i can mention a lot of things here that need improvement. but i won't, because i know they won't happen. in order for Midi to actually be of any use in ACID, the whole structure of Midi implementation needs to change, and we all know that is not going to happen, like it or not. so let's just skip to some other points : 2. - track grouping similar to how you can assign several audio tracks to a certain bus, with the difference that these bus tracks (or group tracks, however you want to call them) are plainly visible in the project, and are not hidden somewhere between the actual tracks and the mixer panel. the cool part of this is that it can make your project more managable. for instance, if one were able to take 9 drum tracks and put them in 1 drum "folder" (which you can collapse and expand) it would create room for more samples, without having to scroll up and down all the time. yes, i have a 19" monitor running at 1600x1200 and i still need to scroll up and down a lot. cumbersome.... another fine detail is that you should be able to assign FX to the folder itself, thus affecting all child tracks inside the folder, similar to the functionality of the current BUS tracks. 3. - envelopes improvement i always thought it would be a great idea if envelopes like panning, volume and FX were to be shown in a seperate track, perhaps one that you can expand from the main track. it can be quite hard to see all the different envelopes on a track, especially considering the wave form is showing as well. put all envelopes in a sort of "sub" track, right below the original, and show nothing but the envelopes. this makes it a lot easier to work with them. to make things more clear, i'm NOT talking about the volume changes that you can make on a PER EVENT basis. i love how you can simply draw a fade out on 1 particular event in a track only. i am talking about the envelopes that affect the entire track, that is to say the (V)olume envelope, (P)an envelope (F)X 1 etc etc. i have submitted all these suggestions to SF using the Product Suggestion form that can be found on the site long ago btw, but it can't hurt to re-iterate the things i care about most once more in this thread. thanks for reading. ATP
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Iacobus Date:9/16/2003 1:51:04 PM In order of importance to me: 1. Media/Event Pool I would really like the idea of placing sections and phrases of a project into an area, kind of like Vegas' Media Pool but without having to add the entire media file's contents to the timeline. I was thinking maybe like taking an entire selection of events and having ACID take a "snapshot" of these events to be added to this pool, so that it can be easily dragged back onto the timeline when desired. I usually find myself taking entire sections and copying/dragging them to the extreme right for use later in the project. I then have to select all these events and work with them accordingly. Having a pool would greatly help in this regard. 2. Chopper Pool/Timeline On a related note, it'd be nice to have a temporary area where you could assemble a chopped up loop before actually applying it to the timeline. Maybe under or next to the Chopper itself? This would also help out a lot, as I like to create something completely different from material and find myself experimenting a lot before committing it to the project. 3. Tempo Envelope or Effect? (Maybe if you use the Loop Region's mark in and mark out points to indicate a tempo to start and end with respectively?) Kinda like the idea of gradually speeding up/slowing down without having to add tempo markers every so often. 4. Time Signature Beat Assignment Fix Have the time signature actually reflect which note value gets a beat, especially with elements such as One-shots. For example, if I set the project's time signature to 4/8 and paint in a set of One-shots using 8th note grid resolution, it does not accurately reflect what note value gets one beat; ACID still assumes quarter notes get one beat. 5. Custom Colors for Track Icons. Find myself having to reuse a color merely because I have so many groups (usually more than 8, which is the present limit in ACID). Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Likwid Date:9/17/2003 4:47:29 AM In order of importance: 1) VST instruments automation & VST effects support 2) enhanced MIDI features: recording and editing, drum editor, key editor, quantize, midi scrolling, ecc. 3) FREEZE tracks to save important resources 4) Channel GRUOP, or 'track grouping', collapsable folder grouping 5) TEMPO automation via graphic envelope (like volume & pan) hey .. a simple 'REVERSE' sample function like soundforge? oh, eerhm .. a new GUI with more brilliant colours would be so coool! BEST REGARDS!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: bwb Date:9/17/2003 9:27:16 AM I would like to add a note about how I like to use ACID as a preface to my feature requests since it has a bearing on why I want these features: What I like to do is start laying down a base of music by jamming, recording long, non-looped audio tracks with ideas. I then like to use the chopper to break up pieces of these tracks into loops which I can then rearrange into a new track. I currently do this by recording the tracks into a different multi-track application (because of the pain in ACID's recording mechanism), bring the track into ACID and chop it up, and then use a bus to combine the tracks back into a new virtual track (because of the lack of track grouping). I would like to do all of this in ACID and to have a better mechanism to group the separate loops into a virtual track. Here are the feature requests: 1. Track Grouping I would like to have the ability to group a bunch of tracks that contains loops of the same instrument together. This would serve both as an organizational tool, allowing me to view all of the loops as a single, virtual track, and also serve as an effects and mixing aid by acting like a virtual bus so that I can apply effects and adjust the level for this virtual track without having to create a separate bus. 2. Better Recording I would like recording of both audio and MIDI to work like audio recording in Vegas. I would arm a track and hit record on the transport bar. It may seem like a small thing, but the currently painful recording mechanism discourages me from using ACID as much as I might.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: stebsly Date:9/17/2003 1:38:28 PM So I already posted this but here goes again as I just remembered another much needed feature for me! 1. I'd like to reverse a part of a track within Acid rather than always having to edit it offline in Sound Forge .. I like to use reversed instruments a lot and if I could highlight just a section of a loop and reverse it easily, I'd be soooo grateful 2. I'm also needing a one shot / loop toggle switch in the EXPLORE window in Acid .. it drives me nuts when I'm auditioning a bunch of sounds and they have defaulted their acid properties to "looped" sounds instead of one shot (or vice versa) .. this way I could instantly change their Acid property without having to draw in a track and change it on the Track Properties screen 3. I love the way the Sound Forge allows you to select a section of a waveform the "drag and drop" it to a new window. I wold love Acid to do this as I often layer the same part together many times and instead of having to always ADD a new track of the same sample, just dragging and dropping that section of the track to a NEW track would be great! Most of the DAWS on the market do this. Cheers, Steb Sly
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: grainerr Date:9/18/2003 1:00:44 AM These might be more in the cosmetic realm but here goes: 1. In order to avoid scrolling and panning could you implement a method to save and restore unlimited user defined views through some sort of dialogue or toolbar method 2. More Flexibility for adding, moving and customizing/rearranging toolbars. Incorporate user defined macros to simplify repetitive tasks into toolbars as well 3. expanded and user defined right click menu customization in order to add and remove items/functions as needed. Improve and expand upon context sensitive Right click menus allow for user added commands and ability to have keyboard shortcuts be user defined 4. concepts of grouping and freezing of tracks as mentioned by others....good 5. make all portions of interface/desktop in acid movable/dockable/floating ie entirely flexible and positioned to user's desired and optimum location
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Zendorf Date:9/18/2003 1:29:16 AM 1: Audio recording enhancements: Realtime fx monitoring and non-modal recording workflow (like Vegas). Also being able to export in Vegas format with AC-3 still intact 2: Midi editing : Once again non-modal...ie would like to be able to zoom in on midi track and move notes around/delete etc (like in the software Tracktion) without going into separate window 3: Built in Midi triggerable beat slicer (like Phatmatik pro)...you already have the Chopper built in...so being able to chop out say the snare and kick out of an audio loop and then trigger these via midi notes on a midi track would be awesome. The old style acid way of allocating a separate audio track for each oneshot is getting old and is cumbersome and space filling! 4: Another idea that Tracktion/Sonar do so well that Acid would really benefit from , would be to have multiple loops on the same track. This would really save on screen estate would be more easliy navigable...maybe a special option of multiple loop tracks that can have more than one loop on each. 5: Midi loops...being able to import or create a midi loop and paint/pencil it in like audio acid loops
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: nfx Date:9/18/2003 11:20:38 PM 1) Group tracks that can be bounced (non destructive) to look like a single track. I often do my drum tracks as kick, snare and hats all on seperate channels. It would be great to group them and then be able to control the volume and FX as if they were one track. 2) Better MIDI piano roll and recording. If you have seen FL Studios piano roll it's pretty good without being complicated. It does export/import of a score (as opposed to a MIDI file), quantize, chords, etc.. The zoom in should be as much as possible to do position 64 th notes easily. 3) a freq analyzer plugin. It is so useful to be able to monitor a frequency scope when mixing down and applying EQ 4) a mono switch. Sometimes it's useful to listen to audio in mono when setting levels and listening for phase problems. 5) VST plugins
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Federico Date:9/19/2003 1:37:39 AM All that Ableton live 2 can do... I want make the same think with Acid please, And copy the skin of its beauty interface
Subject:Photoshop Fades Reply by: Nechromatic Date:9/19/2003 7:22:03 AM 1. GROOVE DETECTION a tool to copy „grooves“ from one loop to another one... lets say you got an easy drumloop A (bass drum on the 1 and the snare on the 2). On another track you got a similar drumloop B but lets say the snare is a lil behind the beat (2.09 or sumpn) If acid could determine this (as it already does since it shows you the markers) it could be possible to transfer this to the „straight“ drumloop so the snare in loop A would be shifted a lil to the right... This feature could also be used on other loops of course) 2. „PHOTOSHOP“ FADES playin around with photoshop i got the idea for a wicked xfade tool: lemme illustrate: in photoshop you can mix two pictures, but you can determine HOW it does it...for example...just layer one picture over the other...or use only the parts with light shades from picture A to bleed thru to picture B....lets say you got one picture of a landscape with a blue sky ...and on a layer beneath it you got a picture of a night sky with a full moon --- now if you blend the two pictures only the moon would bleed thru since it is lighter in shade than the blue sky...the darker night sky would not blend into picture B since it is darker in shade than the blue sky in picture A aight...now how would this work for audio ... lets say you got a drumloop on track 1 and another drum loop on track 2 ... if you choose a sorta „hipass“ fade only the cymbals (hi frequencies) from loop 2 would be audible...but the whole loop on track 1... you could have all sorts of routines for this tool....hi pass fades, lo pass fades, multiplication fades... (where the frequencies are multiplied ) and so on if you would combine it with the paint tool ... it would be possible to only crossfade/blend tracks for a number of beats as specified in the grid... possibly (sorta like in photoshop too) you could specify a fade time before n after the xfade (so the fades could vary in harshness...) i know that these things are possibly right now too, but this tool would make them way easier.... i think this would be an awesome feature to have 3. easy one-click reverse thanks if theres a utility that does this please lemme know acidbeats@gmx.de thanks
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: mr_williams Date:9/21/2003 9:06:53 AM 1. reverse function on samples -> its not very userfriendly to copy samples in soundforge and edit them there just for a reverse effect 2. possibillity to hide tracks -> its kinda hard to have an overview of the project, when you have a lot of tracks in acid. additional it would be great to have an overview of the whole project, where you can select the part you like to edit, like in nuendo 2. 3. freeze tracks -> the logic and cubase 2 feature please also in acid ;-) 4. advanced midi (pianoroll) editor. the editor is very basic and i cannot even copy events with pressing ctrl key and moving events. 5. probably hard to implement, but if possible highly appreciated: put fx on a simple sample in acid. also like in cubase or nuendo where i can choose "new version" and the fx is only applied to this single sample. 6. preview of pitched sample in chopper also should be pitched. if i change pitch of a sample with + or - and then "select in chopper" it will play normal pitch. exact editing of such a sample only in the main window with very high zoom possible. beside of that acid is the BEST music application there is ;-)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:9/21/2003 11:15:56 AM yes absolutly; acid is the best...for the creation... please how to use several instruments, with different tracks midifiles, since a plug vst like "orchestral of edirol"?¶ it' possible whith acid 4? regards
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: luceses Date:9/23/2003 12:00:20 AM I have already posted once before,but I want to reiterate.......MIDI,MIDI,MIDI,MIDI!!!!!! I know Acid is not intended to be a midi sequencer, BUT, I love the direction that the Acid paradigm could take midi(e.g.the Chopper) and being able to add DX plugins to the soft synths! It all ROCKS!!! The thing is, if Acid had more traditional midi implementation it would be the ONLY program I would ever use. If Sony(SOFO I'm a diehard) could manage to do to midi what Cakewalk "attempted" to do with looping (sonar), I think people would abandon Cakewalk for AP!!!! I'm not trying to flame, I just want to say that I believe that the Acid team is VERY good at what they do and I just wish that I could use one program for all of my creative needs! That's my 2 cents. Luces
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Nechromatic Date:9/23/2003 9:35:17 AM I forgot one thing... I would greatly appreciate it if i could set cd tracks before burning a project on a cd...in my version it doesnt exist yet... also i would really like it if i there were keyboard shortcuts which allow me to set cd tracks WHILE RECORDING ... ok maybe this is too special, but hey
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Akicita Date:9/23/2003 7:36:14 PM Here's one (and it may be possible now, but if it is I don't know it): Instead of having to create a whole new track to change a sample sound, addf an option so that at a certain point IN THE SAME TRACK you can change what file the track uses as its sample. That way I don't have ten drum tracks for ten style changes in a song; I can run ONE drum track and just trigger the use of a different sample file as a designated point.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jumbuk Date:9/23/2003 8:49:08 PM #1: A way of collapsing related tracks into one - either by making it possible to have several different loops on the one track, OR by using "folder" tracks like Cubase. #2: A dedicated mixer. The existing structure is Ok (a bit like the inspector in Cubase), but too clunky for final mixdown. #3: Fix the odd time signature feature so it can properly handle odd times with a denominator greater than 4 (see my other posts on this topic some time back if you think this already works correctly - it doesn't). #4: A variable tempo beat mapper - this would really rock. The current beat mapper has to apply the same tempo to the whole file, which doesn't work in some cases. #5: Don't mess up any of the existing features which make Acid such a good product! - Jumbuk
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: stusy Date:9/23/2003 9:36:01 PM 98SE compatible...
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: coldc Date:9/24/2003 9:53:04 AM Hi all, I would like: 1) EITHER Acid as Rewire Slave OR Acid as a VSTi (I don't mind which, as long as it works) OR both if you want. WHY: Because I would like to sync it with my main sequencer Cubase, without having to render...close acid...open cubase...import wav...close cubase...open acid...change loop slightly...(repeat x100) 2) VST effects support please (also with full automation along with the VSTi). WHY: Because I would like to use many of the freeware and payware effects natively in ACID. 3) Recording Improvements, (as sonicJG mentions) perhaps have a "record enable" button on the tracks. WHY: Becuase choosing a filename and location everytime I want to record something can ruin workflow or creative flow, and should be transparent or automatic. 4) "Favourite Folders" dropdown boxes for the Explorer window, the record options box, the export window, the save new miditrack box, etc. (basicly on all new/open/save/export/render windows and Explorer window). Also, we must be able to add to and delete from these favourite folders. WHY: To reduce mouseclicks / aid workflow. 5) Have a prefernces option to embed midi files in the ACD file. WHY: So I don't have midi files called "New MIDI track 4079.mid" all over my computer.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: skagoogee Date:9/24/2003 2:08:31 PM 1. Ability to punch in on tracks and have multiple files on the same track. Generally, more functionality as a full DAW for recording.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Polaris20 Date:9/24/2003 3:12:26 PM 1. Improved Audio recording 2. Better mixing capabilities 3. VST effects Basically Vegas Audio+Acid+VST's = Sonar fighting Acid 5
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: vicdmise Date:9/24/2003 9:14:29 PM Hi guys - I'm a huge Acid 2.0 fan. I've worked with Acid 4.0 and again and agian it's occured to me that some of the flexibility and quick moving feel of Acid 2.0 is missing. I do a lot of splitting, pitch shifting and changing of individual loop tempos in my work and with the exception of splitting it all happens more intuitively in Acid 2.0. Specifically, having the properties page open up below you and the pitchshift drop down menu at the left really help me move quickly. Also the midi sequencimg was far less than intuitive. A sequencer more like Reason's would be helpful.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: SkZ Date:9/25/2003 3:44:57 AM intigrated VST automation istead of having to use third party wrappers to automate filters lfo's ect ect ........
Subject:READ this one! Reply by: skulldrill Date:9/25/2003 12:33:34 PM 1. High contrast/ high color track coloring: --- being able to set the color of your tracks to high colors, 256 colors, and high contrast colors. This is especially useful in a live or darkly lit environment. Those dull gradient default colors can be difficult on the eyes sometimes. 2. Track grouping: --- being able to group tracks into one collapseable group. When you're working with 40 or more tracks, it'd be very useful to be able to group tracks that are similar (or not) into 1 group and minimize/ expand that group. Also an idea would be that you could send the entire group to 1 bus etc. You could easily implement this by having a menu item- "Insert group" from the 'Insert' menu. Users could drag tracks to the group track, name the group track, possibly send the group track to an effect bus or output bus, and minimize the group track. 3. A sample offset envelope: --- just a sample offset envelope for the track (similar to the implemented pan & volume envelopes etc), useful for mangling samples and beats. You could even take it one step further and have a separate "sample offset" properties page (like the track properties and chopper page), and have a sample offset "grid" that let users pencil in or paint sample offsets for the global sample. 4. Make sure Acid stays Windows 98 SE compatible.
Subject:RE: READ this one! Reply by: MBerger Date:9/25/2003 4:38:28 PM The content of this message was deleted by the owner.
Subject:RE: READ this one! Reply by: MyST Date:9/25/2003 4:49:32 PM My vote is for a stand-alone app that works with all Sony software (S.F, Acid, Vegas). Better media management sounds like a great idea. M PS: make it usable for past versions of your software if possible.
Subject:RE: READ this one! Reply by: DJ_Don Date:9/25/2003 7:01:46 PM That would be great. It's not WAY at the top of my list of wants, but I have definitely wasted a lot of time searching for loops when I couldn't remember which folder I put them in. But if it was a standalone app that worked with all current and past versions of SoFo (or Sony's) products, that would be killer.
Subject:When is it due? Reply by: buckaroo Date:9/26/2003 4:42:25 AM Im just counting the days to Rewire slave! - Anything else is just a bonus? [edited per thread rules]
Subject:RE: When is it due? Reply by: analoguekid Date:9/26/2003 8:49:46 AM Here's my list: 1. Rewire Slave compatible. 2. folder tracks ala Cubase. 3. VST Plugins for effects 4. the file management (media pool) sounds like a good idea...
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jazzspin Date:9/26/2003 11:20:29 AM Hi there 1) There would be a new dialog screen added to the mixer preview section that it would include the one shot- loop - beatmapped options to review the samples in my hard disc.. If this is added than there would be no problem in previeving the so slow or the so fast loops . 2)What if acid uses rewire (or another new tech - you name it) technology and so that we can built the song in acid with a great ease and than transwer it to a 3rd party sequencer program easily? 3) Just like volume and pan envelope i still want effects envelope just like it was in acid pro 2.0 so that ALL types of effects can be controlled better. Pleasepleaseplease :) see ya
Subject:Ooh, I have a simple idea! Reply by: Akicita Date:9/26/2003 6:37:07 PM In the FX window, we need a scroll bar so we can navigate up and down. Some of the FX control panels I use are so large than even when I expand the window upward to the absolute top of the screen, I still can't access controls at the bottom. A simple scroll bar is essential! If I'm not expressing myself clearly, I'll upload a screenshot to a url you can see.
Subject:RE: Ooh, I have a simple idea! Reply by: MyST Date:9/26/2003 7:47:56 PM I believe I'm still allowed a couple more requests. How about a more flexible "SPLIT AT CURSOR" function? I'd like to be able to select an event and right clic and instead of just having split at cursor, I could select SPLIT AT GRIDLINES or other. What I'm getting at is that I'm often splitting events into ALOT of sections and this easy one right clic method would be a time saver. M
Subject:RE: Ooh, I have a simple idea! Reply by: oneya Date:9/26/2003 10:03:59 PM 1. Vst or only Powercore & Uad support 2. Direct Input Monitoring, for use of powercore or uad Fx in real time. 3. precise pitchshift 4. media poll with "delete unused record takes"
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: plastique Date:9/27/2003 7:42:10 AM since i can't edit my previous post , i'll add this note that for point five in my list i'd swap for the proposal that ACID should become VST System Link compatible in its version 5. Well ... in fact i guess it's more of a question if this would be possible at all. regards, plastique
Subject:RE: Ooh, I have a simple idea! Reply by: drbam Date:9/27/2003 9:20:16 AM It seems now that VST support is almost madatory to be competitive. I'm referring here to being able to use Powercore and UAD with Acid (and all Sony apps). Its clear that the sound quality of these systems far surpass many if not all of the DX plugs. There will never be a truely professional sounding DX verb and the compressors and eq's on the Powercore and UAD are close to sounding like the mega bucks outboard originals. drbam
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: digitalson Date:9/27/2003 9:45:00 PM rewire...rewire....rewire.......dont try to be the everything in one software...stick to what you do best,, looping.....a mixer would be nice.....nudging ....oh did i say rewire!!!!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: MyST Date:9/27/2003 10:03:19 PM Here goes...final request. More ZOOM controls. At work on my CAD station I have multiple zoom options, and I think they would be very handy in Acid as well. I have a ZOOM+, a ZOOM-, and also, pushing down on the scroll wheel while moving forward increases the zoom, and backwards decreases the zoom. M
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: MJhig Date:9/27/2003 11:25:24 PM I don't belong here since I have 0 interest in loops but I have a vested interest in Sony, ahem, diving deeply into MIDI as I want to kick Twelve Tones to the curb so if Sony has no plans to incorporate MIDI in Vegas... 1.) STAFF VIEW. Why must those who can read be punished, Piano Roll View is sooooo slow compared to Staff/Score View? 2.) MIDI channels to separate tracks upon opening MIDI files. 3.) Oh, if incorporating # 2 means no staff view then forget about # 2. MJ
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Hookup Date:9/28/2003 8:33:24 PM 1.Fully function MIDI sequecer MIDI editor now nothing to do with it so we need more powerfull sequencer like Sonar or Cubase 2.group track Difficult see every track if I had many tracks. Track folder allows to easy to understand. Also save only group tracks capability is good function I guess 3.MIDI controll Every controll and automation using via MIDI controll (CC staff)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Arno Date:9/28/2003 10:18:26 PM The main new feature I'm looking for in Acid (as several people have also mentioned) is the ability to punch in on a track. If I record a vocal and I need 50 takes, I end up with 50 separate tracks. Even though you can then mix them down to 1 track it is still a very inconvenient way to work.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: tuesbien Date:10/2/2003 2:52:46 AM Hi every body. -It would be great to add a groove function in the piano roll editor. -Please add a Knobs remote control editor with a midi learn fonction to remote acid from a keyboard for: volumes, effect, vsti. -Please, add in the midi tracks a FX automation for the vsti as it works for audio tracks. Regards
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fREEmASTER Date:10/3/2003 11:10:50 AM 1. Track Grouping with import and export. I like all the ideas about grouping tracks but would also like to be able to import and export these groups from one project to another in Acid and Vegas. This would allow for a more modular approach where multiple users could contribute mixed elements to a project. 2. Mixer page with realtime recordable automation of all parameters. Live has this. It's great for going over the mix and tweaking pass after pass until it's just right! 3. Improved windowing. I spend half my time resizing windows! Make them all have tabs to user configured views. 4. Optimize for realtime perfomance with uninterrupted adding of effects and quantizing of events (Live has this already). 5. All the rest...Vst, Rewire, better Midi, better chopper (acid loop tools, triggered slicing, etc.)!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: adamagain Date:10/3/2003 7:13:44 PM How about using Ctrl Key to select multiple slices in the chopper and drag them to the acid window..could be very interesting..
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Supertoy Date:10/5/2003 6:39:26 PM 1.) Making Acid more CPU efficient, as found in other music applications such as Propellerheads Reason. Apparently, most of the new soft synths are very CPU cycle intensive and so making Acid much more "responsive" to the CPU demands would be a very nice feature. 3.) An intergrated Mixer for recording midi and audio. This mixer should be placed on the lower right hand side of the screen. it should be dockable, and display all audio/midi choices quickly in front of you. An undo/redo feature should also be present(not intergrated with the toolbar above, but separate). 3.) An improved Interface. I really do believe it is time to overhaul the Acid look and feel, and not just add a new splash screen for Sony. There should also be a "skinable" feature for the application. When thinking about a new look, think about Macromedia's Dreamweaver or adobes photoshop and how all windows float allowing for more space and less restrictions. Hope this helps
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Nechromatic Date:10/7/2003 5:28:05 AM 1. copying and pasting of multiple envelopes at once 2. similar to what myst has said: an improved split at (cursor) tool suggestion: "SPLIT AT REGIONS" would be very convenient to copy parts of a project .. . 3. free drawing of envelopes (as in pencil) with automatic "smoothing" 4. a sort of quantize function for envelope points and or obejcts ... (like the snap to grid" function, but let's say you draw in envelopes without a grid at first, you should be able to - select the track with "unsnapped" objects/envelope points - choose "snap to grid" and it would snap already existing objects/envelope points on that track to the grid then ... (without manually draggin already set envelope points / objects to the grid)
Subject:Selection ? (to SonicJLC & SonicJG) Reply by: Zacchino Date:10/8/2003 4:15:20 PM I know it's a bit arrogant but, can you guys let us know which features you found interresting to embed in the 5.0 retail ?
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: JasonMilo Date:10/8/2003 5:18:48 PM 1. WMA lossless 5.1 exporting and importing for creating 5.1 loops. Currently, you can export 5.1 ecoded WMA's, but there is not a 5.1 format available for import. 2. True 5.1 surround effects (reverb, Acoustic Mirror, compressor...etc.) 3. Automated export / import of 5.1 projects into Vegas for mastering 4. Real time recording of surround panner via joystick 5. Support for Control surfaces I guess I would be considered the surround sound guru on ACIDplanet (KLIM), and I would love these features in ACID 5 and Vegas 5. Thanks, Jason Milo
Subject:Volume Reply by: merlyn60 Date:10/8/2003 8:50:19 PM This one is easy, but I don't think anyone mentioned it yet. I'd really like to be able to type in numeric values for volume control. The faders aren't that exact, so it can be a pain to get specific volume levels by adjusting fader position. Merlyn
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: FFred Date:10/9/2003 2:04:37 AM rewire slave ability! please.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: marcarotsky Date:10/9/2003 6:37:57 PM i saw the thread on ideas for upcoming acid releases, but to be honest...it was quite long and i didnt want this lost in cyber space!! 1. REX FILE SUPPORT to be able to import recycle and reason samples would be AWESOME!!!! i know of A LOT of professioanls who, like myself rely on acid and reason together. so, the ability to directly import rex files would make our lives MUCH MUCH easier!!! 2. IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING "CHOPPER" a resampling type "chopper" would be excellent!! (take an existing sample and chop it into individual parts and have the ability to resample it any way you like!) 3. BETTER AND MORE ACCURATE BEATMAPPING!!! the beatmapper with acid is just, in my oppinion, "OK" a more accurate one, with better timestretching would be imperative!!! (less echo and signal degradation) 4. A NATIVE VOCODER PLUG-IN. granted, you can use a VST plug-in for vocoding, BUT...a native ACID one would be great! --these are just a few of my ideas. hopefully they can be implemented. ACID is an amazing program, and trust me...ive used em all....live, logic, pro-tools, sonar...ACID still has my heart. its just as good, if not better than these. ESPECIALLY for remixing, which is my bread and butter! :-) adding some of these suggestions, i think, would put ACID back on top where it should be again! :-) thanks for your time and consideration. -marc
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ElCaminoJones Date:10/10/2003 11:09:27 AM 1. An option to arrange samples by BPM & properties (Loop, OneShot, Beatmapped..) in the explorer window. 2. An option to use a computer keyboard to control VSTis. 3. An option to crossfade the loop points when chopping to a new track. Thanks!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: dafduc Date:10/10/2003 3:10:08 PM More bug fixes than enhancements: 1) playing tracks in solo mode does not suppress control info on non-soloed midi tracks. workaround: route non-soloed tracks to unused device. desired fix: treat non-solo-tracks as muted. 2) zero-length midi events result in a stuck note. workaround: find stuck note (good luck!) and change duration. desired fix: force zero-length events to .001 length. AND: provide better event search/filtering so we can find zero-length events more easily. 3) Steinberg Model-E unstable behavior - patch change is erratic - numbers leap by unpredictable intervals. workaround: none. desired fix: Make it work! 4) Midi devices do not fully reset when track interrupted, resulting in stuck sustain pedals, mod wheels, pitch bends, etc. workaround: Close and reopen Acid Pro. desired fix: provide reset option. AND/OR: auto reset on replay. 5) Can't record mono audio tracks. workaround: Record in stereo, "channel convert" in Sound Forge. desired fix: allow mono recording.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Weevil Date:10/10/2003 9:18:22 PM Okay, this has been kinda buzzing around in my brain for eons. It hasn’t got a hope in hell of getting up, but someone mentioned a similar thing on the Vegas feature topic so I thought I may as well just spit it out now and get it all over and done with. The idea is simple enough but some of the implementation takes a bit of explaining. I’d love to have inbuilt Fruityloops style drum machine tracks. I always seem to end up building loops in ACID; I start drawing in all these zillions of individual hat, kick and snare hits everywhere. I end up with literally hundreds of samples all spanned across multiple tracks. ACID’s timeline was never really designed for this sort of thing, editing it is mega cumbersome and the whole thing becomes very messy. In terms of ACID’s interface there are a couple of ‘little’ hurdles to jump: Firstly you would need a drum grid editor. Just like fruity this would be a simple sixteen beat, one bar pattern display for you to do your basic editing on. It could live in the window docking area. When you clicked on a pattern in the timeline, that pattern would be instantly loaded into the editor. In this way it would work kinda like the chopper. (You could also view the track properties to get an overall view of the entire track) So now back on the timeline you simply use your pencil to draw your drum pattern (one bar at a time) wherever you want on your drum track. Problem is that currently in ACID each track can only have the one loop. Whereas throughout a song, your typical drum track is of a whole bunch of different loops (or patterns) all strung together. This could be sorted in kinda the same way that Vegas handles events with multiple takes. All the separate patterns could live on the same track, but they would be treated as separate underlying takes of the same basic event. So as an example, you have two patterns, one for the verse and one for the chorus. On the timeline you use your pencil and draw a bunch of pattern 1. The number 1 is actually displayed on the events on the timeline so you can readily see what is going on. You cycle through to pattern 2 in the grid editor and then start drawing it on the timeline. Okay that’s about it...You know in how the Chief in Get Smart looked when Max said or did something really stupid and annoying...That’s what the Sony guys are looking like after reading this...
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: SPP Date:10/11/2003 3:13:41 PM 1. The ability to have more than eight colors for tracks...or at least significantly different colors. It would make grouping things much cleaner. 2. The ability to selectively minimize a given group of tracks to keep them out of the way when working on projects that have a large number of tracks. 3. Have recorded parts automatically default to the current project's folder without having to set it up each time.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: peahix Date:10/12/2003 1:24:13 AM 1. more complex/detailed "beat length" defining capabilities. ie, very often i would like to use, say, a hi-hat pattern that lasts, say, eleven 16th notes. i like to set odd-length patterns like this against a more typical 4/4 groove in order to get a more complex overall repeat cycle. but the way acid is set up now, it only allows to to define how many "beats" (ie, quarter notes) any given loop is. basically, i'd like to be able to tell acid "this loop is exactly eleven 16th notes long," as opposed to just being able to say that it's "five 1/4 notes long" or "seven 1/4 notes long." i know that there are workarounds using the chopper, etc, but i'd REALLY like for this sort of loop-length defining complexity to be built in. 2. since i almost never use acid's time-stretch mode for looping samples, i would LOVE to have an option to default new tracks to the pitch-shift stretching mode instead. as it is, every time i create a new track, i have to go in and manually switch it to pitch-shift mode. 3. it'd be great if you could work out SOME sort of scheme where i could have several different related loops share one single track. very often i'll have many different variations on essentially the same loop, which, when you're just listening to the finished result, SOUND like just one single track, but it can be very awkward to manage a whole series of, say, 16 different tracks which all basically amount to just one musical element in the song. is there any way at all to assign multiple loops to a single track? thanks- peahix
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jocks Date:10/12/2003 10:49:21 AM hi there, here are my suggestions. perhaps someone has suggested this already, but I haven't read all comments (too many). 1. ability to record more than two tracks at once. nowdays many sound cards have 4 or more inputs. very usefull for bands to speed up recordings and increase flexibility. for instance sep. drum tracks. 2. mixer faders, fx-sends and pan controls should show mix automation motion that is used in productions. 3. MIDI quantize should be realtime for faster changes, since it's a low load for CPU. this is why so many still use old Atari's with pattern based sequencer Notator or Creator. Sweet 16 midi sequencer is a PC sequencer resembling those programs, that even runs o old 286 PC's . /jocks
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: 2020 Date:10/12/2003 2:05:44 PM Joel. . if you improve the recording features alone that would tremenduously enhance the Acid Product. . .My biggest frustration is having to go outside the Sonic Foundry(Sony) Family to do my voice recording. Real time effects during recording would definitely be key. Can't Wait!! thx, 20.20
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fuzzy Date:10/14/2003 4:59:33 PM Oh... and make that "multichannel" vst support.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Paulie Date:10/14/2003 5:45:29 PM 1. A Freeze/unfreeze feature that converts MIDI to AUDIO to conserve resources ( Like in Logic) 2. Better audio recording 3. Ability to delete the audio source file when you delete the track in ACID. i.e. delete all of my duff vocal takes !
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: tascolas Date:10/21/2003 2:56:28 AM Hey I got 5 on it :-) 1. Multitrack and simultaneous recording of midi and audio with real time monitoring please. 2. Advanced crossfades and edits inside the tracks in Vegas style 3. A proper mixer like Cubase has ,where u can work mixing with automation and sends/returns simulating a real mixer. 4. Improved midi and vstis handling - many glitches in Acid 4 -too many to mention 5. VST plugins as native Why ? Multitrack we all need -its a waste of time to record in Vegas and then go back in Acid . Edits like Vegas because Acid can be the fastest hard disk recorder since with a little tweaking can load all audio material used inside a project in ram - most pros have 1-2 gigs of ram so its essential we have the pro editing too thnx a lot..Mixer because its very clumsy trying to mix a big project with no '' real '' mixer .The rest is self explainable so i wont bother u more - thnx and keep up the good work - Cheers
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fuzzy Date:10/28/2003 7:04:46 PM You know how we can scroll vertically through tracks with the mousewheel + ctrl... well how about adding vertical scrolling with just the mousewheel when the pointer is positioned over the track names.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: paulw9 Date:10/29/2003 8:46:47 AM 1) Media search capabilities - I have over 45,000 loops and it is very difficult to find the loop I'm after. If I was able to search by instrument, style, tempo, key, etc. it would be a BIG help. Perhaps you could give each loop library author a program that would allow them to enter information about every loop in each of their libraries. This information could be merged into a single database that ACID could access to find loops (ACID could search the disk drive to determine what loops are available and where they are located). It would also be nice to have an option that could be selected to show what other libraries are available (but not installed) with perhaps a link to the product page or a low resolution version of the loop that could be auditioned. 2) Precomposing - I've been asking for this since version 1. If you've composed a rhythm or a groove with 20 tracks, it would be nice to save that as a self-contained element that could be placed into other compositions and looped without rendering it first. To precompose, you would select the tracks and set the time range with the loop range markers and select a “Precompose” option. ACID would save the selected tracks and range as a file which could then be dragged into the composition and used just like any other loop. When you double-click the precomposed loop, it would expand (or open in a new window) so that it elements that comprise the precomposed loop can be edited. This precomposition could also be added to any other project allowing you to build up a library of custom loops but without loosing the ability to edit them. 3) Folders - Some of my compositions have over 80 tracks and it becomes difficult to manage and organize them. The ability to create folders that contain selected tracks would be a big help. 4) Channel Functions – There should be integrated basic channel functions in ACID like Channel Swap and Stereo to Mono. Currently I have to open Sound Forge, apply the channel operation, and create a copy of the loop.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: atomic_afro Date:10/29/2003 8:46:42 PM Reverse Audio selection - I've been waiting for it since 2.0 and I feel that it is something that other loop-based sequencers don't have (sonar, live, etc). It may seem like a simple request, but it's a time saver over having to render a selection, reverse in soundforge, and import it back to Acid. I just want it simple and easy to reverse very, very small slices of audio, period. Decimal points for # of beats - I would like to fine tune the exact length of loops so that I'm not stuck to syncing to whole beats. VSTfx/DXi support - should have been supported in 4.0, nuff said. MIDI routing to insert effects - For MIDI automatable VST effects, I would like to use the OPT MIDI editor to add loopable parameter curves like I do for my VST instruments. Modular studio design - Rework the entire mixing environment as to resemble Audiomulch or console (sorry console boys). In other words, have the audio tracks as individual blocks, same with the MIDI tracks, instruments, effects, etc, and allow the user to patch the audio & midi however he/she wants, making it a flexible environment, while still retaining the ease of Acid-style sequencing.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: kingklong Date:10/29/2003 9:12:43 PM 1 Keystroke improvements. More &/or assignable keystrokes. Acid is becoming a resource as a professional tool and we need to see that kind of support; keystrokes=speed and efficiency; at least for my team. 2. Soother midi recording/editing. Having to create midi files for each track and then edit them in the somewhat functional key editor is not as easy and speedy as I'd like, easy to improve I'd think. 3. Midi to VST instrument export and replace on track. you can certainly render and then add the rendered track to a new track...but would be better if you could design a macro of some sort to do it. 4. Back to keystrokes again...sorry, quantize/grid values, zooming....sorry really need it. 5. folder tracks....Check out Cubase/Nuendo. It's a way to group and hide tracks in use, it's the smartest development I've seen in a while. thanks for letting us in on the next version
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: grainerr Date:10/30/2003 1:15:53 AM Interface, Interface and Interface. How bout updating, revamping and modernizing it. Of all the "technical" requests/improvements that have been suggested make sure that the execution of those features are implemented with ease of use as the driving feature. All windows, panes and control tools are to be entirely user defined, ie dockable, hideable, groupable and customizable. Allow users to control colors, appearance sizing and functionality and that means right click customization, macro definitions, user defined keyboard commands to access standard commands, avioding having to use pulldown and cascading menu commands, "if you want to". Take a long look at other softwares and see what they are doing in terms of improved methods of command and control as far as interface is concerned. This include I/O (input/output) mouse control, right-click and user defined buttons (many mice are utilizing 5 buttons and scroll / tilt wheel), modify and allow for for Right-click and Shift+right-click or Ctrl+right-click menu commands to do whatever anyone feels is important to their own workflow demands. Some operators/musicians to do the same things that everyone else does (copy, paste, etc) and others do things or perform actions that might be not the norm or done less frequentyly by the majority of users then they may do. I'm saying basically "Let the user have full and customizable control of everything they do" . Take advantage of colors, resizable windows, use of views/snapshots to easily display "Scenes" ie recoding scene allow for toolbars or anyother desired componenets to display in a user defined position. And then recall your "Mixing Scene" to redisplay the interface components again positioned the way you saved them. These are some of my interface suggestions. They are just the basics. Mostly cosmetic but they would make a huge impact if thought out and executed correctly...just take a look at the way some other softwares have done it (ie Autodesk Inventor, Microsoft XP) and let us have some means and ability to do things the way we want. Other than that I can't wait for next release
Subject:Whens it due? Reply by: buckaroo Date:10/30/2003 2:22:15 AM I know this list has been here for a long time, but any news on when Acid 5.0 is due?? As like most people on here - i can't wait!!!!!!!! - just a timescale if there is one would be great... :-)
Subject:more requests Reply by: aress Date:10/30/2003 2:29:47 PM 1] it would be great to have a loop auto crossfade if needed, [like vegas] 2] let me group and ungroup [like in vegas.] 3] save a copy as, in file menu 4] give us 256 colors to code groups and tracks! [ive been reqesting this since version 2!] 5] insert/split [ i.e. you want to add 4 bars to a song, you should be able to split all regions, and insert the 4 bars, while the regions on the post side, move automatically. when you insert the clipboard, this should also move all fader and automation moves]
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: valiumart Date:10/31/2003 8:12:52 AM My desires for 5.0: 1. Enhanced beatmapper - it would be great to be able to map audio that fluctuates in tempo (like all my old vinyl!). This alone makes ACID the perfect tool for doing remixes. 2. Rewire slave support. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to feed back. Steve.
Subject:RE: READ this one! Reply by: coolout Date:10/31/2003 11:52:06 AM here's one i made up... i usually start with a simple percussion loop in acid, record all my audio elements (live instruments, vocals and vsti without quantize) and then edit, arrange, and mix the crap out of audio. i was reading a advert on the TDM vocal align plug-in for pro-tools. for those who haven't heard it's a utility for tightening up background vocals and doubles based on aligning the waveforms. so instead of doing my hold shift and nudge by ear on this project i went through and aligned each event strictly by waveform and duration at acid's closest zoom, hill to hill...valley to valley. i mean on EVERY element not buy grid but in relation to each other: vocals, bass, drums, synths...everything. bam...instant tight groove without even auditioning the audio. now i'm not trying to be BT with 1400 edits in 30 seconds (a friend of mine was playing some BT stuff and i swear his use of granual synthesis sounds just like someone hitting seek on a cd player...i don't think it's worth the trouble) , but couldn't some type waveform alignment quantize be put into acid. kinda like groove quantize but for audio...and not based on a grid or static template but an actual user defined element in the song. add multitrack recording and a dedicated mixer page and i can see the full page ads now: "ANY AUDIO APP CAN CAPTURE YOUR PERFORMANCE...BUT ACID JUST PLAIN MAKES YOU SOUND BETTER!!!" remember to give me a shoutout if you guys use this or i'll just settle for a beta. coolout
Subject:RE: more requests Reply by: coolout Date:10/31/2003 11:53:46 AM here's one i made up... i usually start with a simple percussion loop in acid, record all my audio elements (live instruments, vocals and vsti without quantize) and then edit, arrange, and mix the crap out of the audio. i was reading an advert on the TDM vocal align plug-in for pro-tools. for those who haven't heard it's a utility for tightening up background vocals and doubles based on aligning the waveforms. so instead of doing my hold-shift and nudge by ear on this project i went through and aligned each event strictly by waveform and duration at acid's closest zoom, hill to hill...valley to valley. i mean on EVERY element not by grid but in relation to each other: vocals, bass, drums, synths...everything. bam!!!...instant tight groove without even auditioning the audio. now i'm not trying to be BT with 1400 edits in 30 seconds (a friend of mine was playing some BT stuff and i swear his use of granual synthesis sounds just like someone hitting seek on a cd player...i don't think it's worth the trouble) , but couldn't some type waveform alignment/quantize be put into acid. kinda like groove quantize but for audio...and not based on a grid or a static template but an actual user defined element in the song. add multitrack recording and a dedicated mixer page and i can see the full page ads now: "ANY AUDIO APP CAN CAPTURE YOUR PERFORMANCE...BUT ACID JUST PLAIN MAKES YOU SOUND BETTER!!!" remember to give me a shoutout if you guys use this or i'll just settle for a beta. coolout sorry guys duplicate post
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: sugiere Date:10/31/2003 7:39:07 PM yeah jazzspin, i agree with you on everything. Acid 5 to be better than protools and fruity.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: sugiere Date:10/31/2003 7:49:06 PM yes, tempo envelopes.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: xxFT13xx Date:11/2/2003 1:12:57 PM VST Effects-youve finally added VSTi support, now how about VST effect support? Unlimited MP3 export-Enough of this 5 free encode crap....give us unlimited!! Better Acid effects-Sure we could go out and get other DX plugins, but Acid should beef up their effects, making us go "Damn! I guess i dont need Waves plugins afterall!!" Acid's Own Instruments-Hell, even the cheap-o programs like Magix have their own Instruments, so how about Acid jumpin in the pool? i think thats all...for now... -Sin
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: stuffedspacedog Date:11/4/2003 4:32:49 AM 1. Simple VU meters or even a blinking LED in the track list so that you can identify which sample is playing (handy when you have 40+ tracks). 2. Multi channel midi files can be imported as multiple tracks. 3. Multi track midi clips can be exported as a single multi channel midi file. 4. DXi Synth + VST effect support. 5. MFX support, e.g. Infinity & MidiFo. 6. One click from midi clip to piano roll. 7. One click quantize buttons on the piano roll for note start, end and velocity. 8. DVD Surround mixing & burning capabilities as standard. 9. Ability to reverse the sample without having to export to SoundForge. 10. Buffer underrun protection for CD burning that works as well as CD Architect. Acid 4 is still for me the most rewarding and enjoyable environment to work in, and it's handling of audio loops is still the best (Sonar 3 is still not in the same league)... better MIDI functionality and a couple of bells and whistles is all that's needed.... I'm very much looking forward to Acid 5. Alan
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Snappy Date:11/5/2003 7:58:49 PM #1 The ability to create your patterns on Loop/One-Shot/Beatmapped tracks (i.e. - non-midi tracks) via some more 'intuitive' (jam-oriented!) means than painting with the mouse: such as 'jamming' them in with a midi controller. Think about it: giving us just ONE trigger note would allow us to play our rhythms right in, but melodic triggering could map to individual event transposition! (another zany approach: triggering events in via the impulse of another audio file (which could be automagically converted to project tempo using the core acid algorithm!)) #2 True soloing and bussing behavior, like that of a classic hardware mixing console in all regards. I'm not talking about _anything_ regarding fidelity. I'm talking about functionality: currently there are multiple bugs involving soloing and effects - things that don't work in Acid the way they do on a real board. Also there are bugs involving soloing/bussing while using bus automation. i currently have demo projects that demonstrate 1 or 2 of these bugs, but the rest of them will take some trial and error to reproduce, and i wanted to make sure i got this post on the thread in time. [two off the top of my head: #1 - when you solo a track which is sending to an FX buss, you will still hear the effect return even when it's not included in the solo! #2 - continuing from #1, now solo the effects buss... now you can't hear the track!!! if we were in analog land i'd say something got out of phase...... ;-)] #3 Provide the ability to select multiple tracks at once to simultaneously edit any of their properties from the Track Properties tab. ...All properties. ...During playback. >:) If this is 'impossible', then give me whatever you can in this area - any properties that _can_ be multi-edited _should be_ enabled on a multi-select (Track Type, Pitch Shift, the Stretching Properties, etc.); any that ABSOLUTELY can't be could be disabled/grayed-out - (no, i don't expect to be able to manually edit stretching markers for a multi-select ;-) or then again, do i?!). Modal track property editing is too restrictive! #4 Better project management: convert projects from old versions ACCURATELY! (it does not do this now!); Automatically find missing files with a MINIMUM of user intervention - maybe using 'Favorite' folders so the thing doesn't have to search 'all local hard drives' to find a sound that is most likely in one of 4 or 5 places. Include matching of partial filenames, so it can suggest files whose names are similar to the one you're looking for. (we often add a prefixes & extensions to a filenames, but Acid could find still find them if it would just search for file names 'containing' the base filename. At the very least, provide some means of excluding folders from the search (permanently, as a Preference - it doesn't need to be searching Temporary Internet Files, C:\windows, etc...) #5 general interface improvements (there's tons more than i list but i don't want to get nuked by teh @dm\|n$): intelligent 'open file' dialogs based on file type - expect that my projects are stored in one place and my media files are stored in another (don't you hate when you use the 'replace file' command for a track and it looks in the folder where you opened the .acd from?!); file dialog settings should remember last settings - if i viewed by 'details' and sorted by 'date modified', it should remember!; a 'fullscreen' mode - one-click 'maximize/restore' of track window (identical to dragging/undragging the Track Window/Properties Window divider to the bottom of the screen, but using an instantaneous single click/keypress, not a click+drag); user-definable track colors; the list goes on... it was tough putting these in order... i have a pile of other JUST-PLAIN-CRASY [sic] ideas that would never make the mass-marketing cut, but i'll post them up from time to time just for discussion's sake if nothing else... *BOTTOM LINE: in All Things, make us more efficient please! =) Thanks & thanks for all you've done already! =)* Acid is my #1 (basically, only) audio production/composition tool. I would LOVE it became even MORE self-sufficient, ground-breaking, and 'A Thing Of Beauty Unto Itself' all at the same time! But i am also fully behind all the reasonable interoperability suggestions! No workstation is an island! =P THANKS!!! ------------- (now what do i do with my other 5 billion suggs...? (sugg. #6: make it open source! =P)) PS - sorry about the verbosity but i should be given leniency for the fact that i had to 'waste' one of my suggestions discussing bugs...! :P PPS - #1 was actually a late addition - something i'd thought of long ago but almost forgot to mention. it's HUGE!!! former #5 is going up in a new thread... it's another interface/convenience feature - look for it! =)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: xxFT13xx Date:11/6/2003 1:42:07 PM oh...btw... MULTI TRACK RECORDING!!!!!!!! had to throw that in there.. -Sin
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: sugiere Date:11/6/2003 2:34:09 PM 1-multitrack recording and monitoring: because i do not want to learn another software just for that. 2-vst dxi support and automation. 3-invert/flip, synth, drum, scratch generator... 4- track collapse 5- every request from all people if you can, Yes!, you can!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fatbenelton Date:11/9/2003 6:45:23 AM patch name/instrument definitions for external midi instruments - along the lines of Freemidi (MOTU), OMS(opcode), COREMIDI (apple), patchname scripts (Cubase) etc etc. I want to be able to use acid as the hub of my studio!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: freakybeatz Date:11/9/2003 2:18:35 PM Only one request. 1. Support for hardware controllers such as Mackie control, Yamaha 01X / 01V96 or even a specific "ACID Control surface" This would enable me to integrate hardware control with the flexibility and ease of use of Acid, which in turn would help me to phase out software such as Cubase or Sonar. This is the only thing holding me back from purchasing ACID and making the transition. Infact I cant believe this hasn't been implemented already as it would open up ACID as an option to 1000's more user who want that hardware control. cheers Freakybeatz
Subject:must have features Reply by: ozzborn Date:11/9/2003 9:27:04 PM 1. vst effects. only because of uad and tc powercore. 2. a real mute button self-explanitory 3. midi sroll in the piano roll editior. the piano roll editor needs to scroll inorder to edit better in the piano roll editor 4.copy region,delete region,move region ive been using acid for 3 years and i just discoverd regions, it would be better if you could copy,move, and delete by regions so you could put your song together faster. 5.increased stability and realiabilty(espically midi) acid keeps getting better but midi is still a little inconsistent,sometimes it sees the incoming midi, sometimes it dosent
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: acidchild Date:11/12/2003 4:44:56 AM MIDI CLOCK SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Acid is pretty much useless to me w/o it! I can't sync it to my 707, which is REALLY frustrating. I want to use it as a MIDI sequencer, but i need to slave it to my 707 to use my 303 with it. I don't know why this wasn't included already, seems to be an industry standard. That's all i ask:o)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: knowbody Date:11/13/2003 6:14:51 AM Not sure if these have been covered but please improve navigation: 1. Have a back forward arrow somewhere in the explorer panel so it's easy to jump to previously used folders. 2. Allow the user to specify directories when searching for lost files rather than just an entire drive. I recently had to change my set up and it is taking ages to search a 160GB drive - over and over again. And I have to keep specifying the drive each time I search for a file - why can't Acid remember my previous selection. 3. Allow the user to group sets of tracks together so they can be moved up and down the track list on mass. Have an easy way to move a track eg type in a number to move the track from 1 to say 30. 4. Have more than 10 markers that can be moved to easily. 5. Allow the user to customise shortcut keys and have more buttons available on the tool bar. I'd like a short cut for Insert time. Also I have a Japanese keyboard and I can't type a tilde easily so I can't quickly minimise all tracks which is a pain. Sorry if any of these have been covered - this thread has got too long!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Spy Date:11/18/2003 1:00:15 PM Greetings All, 1. Limited multitrack capabilities - e.g. incorporating Vegas LE, which ships with Acid anyway. 2. Improved latency - not being too technical myself I don't know whether that's something which requires less CPU loading, improved driver support (ASIO, WDM, etc.) or both. 3. Giga support 4. A lot of what's been asked for is already available in Acid, so perhaps a bigger, clearer and more comprehensive hard copy manual. One Love, Spy!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: txharp3 Date:11/18/2003 6:30:01 PM For the love of God, please add an audio and midi record count down function.
Subject:THE SON OF VEGAS AND ACID Reply by: ZAZKUASH Date:11/26/2003 3:50:44 AM 1)Many Loops or one shots in only one track: Ctrl+right click with the paint tool show you what sample you are going to drag or work wit ,(all of they are in media pool or in a new "Sample Pool" before) 2)Integrate multiple MIDI-compatible control surfaces (Mackie, CM Labs, Tascam , HUI compatibility,more) 3)Multitrack recording like Vegas (i cant leave Sonar beacause of this), i dont like the window recording for audio and midi 4)Zoom in the MIDI Track and edit from here not in another window 5)Make a son of ACID and VEGAS a real competitor of CUBASE and SONAR , an Audio and Midi Sequencer of SONY
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: juan2003 Date:11/27/2003 8:52:54 PM Very well, Joel !!! The features that you requested for Acid Pro 5.0, they have been answered like never before (more than 100 replies). We are very thankful to Sonic Foundry - Sony, by to have allowed to contribute to us to the development of this new version for Acid Pro. We are very sure that Acid Pro 5.0 will be the best update of all the previous versions. If Acid Pro 5.0 could be release for twenty of December, it would be an excellent Christmas present for us. (is only a desire) Thanks!! So long! Juan :)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: christensen Date:11/28/2003 5:06:34 AM Hi there Alongside many of the other great suggestions, I would like to be able to arrange a projects grid lines in ways, which are not so mathematically accurate. In other words, the ability to snap events to rhythmic feels instead of perfect 1/8-notes, 1/16-notes etc. I guess it would be a bit like groove quantize in a midi sequencer. Keep up the good work! S. Christensen
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Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Studio_de_Lara Date:12/4/2003 5:30:02 PM 1. REWIRE Slave Mode- This would address alot of VST issues when used with a VST capable sequencer (like Cubase / Logic/Tracktion). The VST sequencer can use all the VSTi's, ACID can access VST effects via the Rewire host. This way, ACID can focus on being ACID. 2. Ability to have Rewired apps (lke Reason) use FX busses. For those instances were ACID is the ReWire Master. I use this combo when my PC is slaved to my Mac (Logic is the main DAW). 3. Multitrack recording. If not then........ 4. Ability to EXPORT an ACID project to a VEGAS project. I think this would be easier than having Vegas import. ACID would define all the regions / audio files (maybe even render new files at the proper BPM) for each track. Start in ACID, complete in Vegas. Regards, Rich
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: blacker Date:12/5/2003 5:50:56 AM Hmmm. Tons of great suggestions here. I haven't had time to read through all of them, so here are my $0.2: 1) VST effects 2) A dedicated mixer page that looks more like a Logic/Cubase type mixer, i.e. with vertical faders, panpots, inserts and buses on channels, etc. Then there'd be more room in the "arrange" page too... You could use simple key commands to flip between arrange page and mixer page. 3) Ability to reverse audio in a track - useful for many (creative) reasons... 4) MIDI improvements. That's the biggie. I realise that ACID is a Loop sequencer, but add decent MIDI functionality a la Logic, Cubase, etc., and ACID would be the only program I'd ever need to use. As others have mentioned, the ability to simply create a MIDI track and zoom in for step/realtime input in the arrange view would be awesome. Cheers!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: SHTUNOT Date:12/11/2003 12:33:37 AM Here's my list... 1)Either give me the option of rewiring acid to vegas for obvious reasons or give me vegas's audio section...done. BUT if your not going to get rid of this modal method then get rid of that dum recording window...All I want to see is a audio track open up like in vegas ready to record audio. No big stupid unintuitive box in the way of me looking at the timeline...please. The same thing should be done for the midi track as well. Make sure you have your inputs from the keyboard and your done. 2)Song template dialog...Pretty much you can take any song and break it down to what happens where...intro/verse/chorus/etc...This dialog would give the producer arranger a template so that he can work around. Great for structuring projects that need to have a time limit. Great for someone doing cover work and needs to create a song quickly. These templates gives the user control over tempo/time/etc per section. The ability to add lyrics/notes/etc...per section as well. Nice when you can have the first few words of each part of the song to help in your composition. After you hit ok the timeline is already setup for the user to work out of. a) Sorry...But a user defineable "count-in would be nice as well. 4 beats/4 measures. Like a slider handle on the timline gui next to where it says 1.1[the very beginning]. I could drag it to the right a bit so when I start recording this bands measure 9 is measure 9 of the tune. Not 13...get it? I don't have to highlight the whole tune and drag it to the left for it all to "line-up" correctly. 3)Automated FX...Right now you have to add nodes by starting/stopping playback...this sucks. I would like the ability to adjust nodes during playback at the "cursor" position. Each time I change a direction a new node appears. I'm automating the fx from the plugin window ofcourse...And hopefully soon from a Mackie HUI ;) 4)To be able to create arrangements files. Like "acid arrangement file.acd" or something. ie:I have 10 tracks of loops/one shots/audio/whatever and its already drawn in to the timeline with whatever fx I wanted on whichever track. I can open this arrangement in any project whenever and have the ability to have the drawn in data on the timeline be whereever I choose. Great when you have multiple ideas for a tune and you want to save screen realestate. It would help a composer mix and match ideas by slightly changing sections and be able to open/close them plus move them around the timeline freely. A arrangement pool similar to vegas's media pool would be nice to have it "at your disposal" in a moments notice. 5)An option to add a audio file[one shot] to the timeline and have it fully exposed...ie:NOT having to paint it in. Thats not such a big deal so I'll tag onto that a "auto-resize" for the plugin window. Like when you go from izotope ozone and go to sonys track eq you have that empty space. You have to now double click on the top of the window for to resize. Please fix this. Hell how about a phase invert switch on the tracks too. The ability to route between busses and assignable fx without causing a feed back loop. Have the mute+solo work correctly with pre/post volume settings. When you drag the mouse cursor over the fx icon a "pop-up" states "track fx". How about when you have plugins on that track and you do the same a pop-up states what plugins are on that track. A freeze function please ;) Ed. (I'm glad I got that off my chest finally)
Subject:ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: lukievan Date:12/13/2003 9:38:45 PM 1) more flexibility with detaching, moving and resizing the different consoles/panels 2) a conventional-style mixer window with vertical faders and controls for pan, eq, fx 3) ability to record more than 1 track at once, through different inputs 4) software control via firewire from hardware control/input control surface hope that's not too redundant but I didn't have time to read everything on this post ACID inspires me all the time and I thankya for it...
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gunhed Date:12/15/2003 9:34:35 AM - Ability to automate more if not all the effects and their sliders/values. - Track Export / Import: I spend a lot of time developing variations on tracks and also collaborate projects with friends. I run into "synchronization issues" where I like what my friend has done on a track and must painstakingly paste it into the "current" project and reproduce a mountain of settings to get it just like my friend made it. It would be nice to export an entire track and everything that goes with it (which synth or WAV associated with it, all envelope settings, FX, patterns painted onto the track, everything needed to fully reproduce the track). Perhaps save it with an ".act" extension. Then, when working in another project, that track could be imported and function exactly as it did before. - It would be nice if I could copy surround keyframes and paste them at other locations. This would be a nice feature for other markers as well, such as being able to select a range of volume markers or panning markers and paste them into another VSTi or on top of a loop track - useful if you're repeating a pattern of changes or trying out a new synth and need to duplicate the volume/panning layout. - MIDI tracks should optionally be able to have their own, unique envelopes (like loops do) instead of always having to place them into the Bus Tracks view. This would not only allow the envelopes to be viewed more easily during playback, it would allow multiple tracks (i.e. tracks 2 and 4 using synth 1) of the same VSTi to automate different volumes and panning, etc. without having to add an additional instance of the same VSTi (i.e. track 2 using synth1 and track 4 using synth 2, where synth 1 is a clone of synth 2).
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: buckaroo Date:1/2/2004 11:21:35 AM Just tried Ableton Live 3 - with Acid 5.0 what about - 1. Editor to use different edited loops within the same track? 2. VST fx ? 3. OMF protools support Ableton was pretty good, although im a big Acid fan , and am looking forward to Acid 5.0 - When though??!! hehe
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:1/2/2004 1:21:25 PM ableton live3 and melodyne in acid5. he..he...he... multi tracking as vegas
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:1/2/2004 1:21:28 PM ableton live3 and melodyne in acid5. he..he...he... multi tracking as vegas
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: androgyne Date:1/3/2004 3:53:50 PM metronome with count in that can be used with live audio recording and will not be picked up by the resulting audio recording Thx Flo
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: mortalengines Date:1/3/2004 10:09:43 PM I would like to see Acid support Multi-track recording or at least be compatible with other multitrack recording platforms like pro tools, cubase, or Sonar- -the ability to use Acid as a rewire slave would be nice as well- -Better Reverb & Delay - that too would be good - -true VST support would really rock- -the ability to play loops in reverse...hot diggity!!!
Subject:STAFF VIEW Reply by: bakerbud9 Date:1/11/2004 7:27:47 PM 1. The ability to edit MIDI data in a Staff View, ala SONAR. 2. Armed recording for audio and MIDI.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: JD57 Date:1/13/2004 1:04:26 AM OK MOSTLY BETTER MIDI SEQUENCING FEATURES: 1) A METRONOME FOR RECORDING WITH COUNT DOWN 2) EXPANDED QUANTIZE CONTROL Swing feel etc. so that you can make tracks feel real. 3) SYNC MIDI EDITOR WITH TIMELINE PLAYBACK FOR FEEDBACK ON EDITING So that you can tweak notes and get instant feedback on how they sound within the other tracks and/or against a specific part (also there is no real intuitive way to know where you are in a midi track as it relates to what you just heard on the timeline if you decide to edit a bad note let's say. 4) AUTOMATIC FILE NAME ON RECORD I record alone usually. When in a creative mode I hate having to stop between takes and type in a name each time and I don't like the idea of having to go back and rename all of the files later. It should be: You initialize record and type in the name: "Piano Chords Verse" You hit start and then begin playing -oops made a mistake. Hit cancel then record right away to stay in the groove and you don't have to type the name in in again then re-orient yourself on the keyboard and settle in. You just keep recording this way keeping some takes and discarding others and each time it names the kept ones as "Name" (1) "Name" (2) etc. This is better than looping mutiple takes because on long takes usially you don't get through the whole take before stopping.. 5. ABILITY TO INTEGRATE WITH VEGAS Make One Shot File Tracks able to copy and paste into Vegas so that you can just transfer final tracks - some loop tracks perhaps rendered to new track if need be and converted to one shot - so that you can do mix down in Vegas Video. Specifically so that you can compose music and then rather than do a stereo submix ib Acid, you can mix separate tracks along with dialouge and effects in Vegas. I find this an incredibly usefull idea for getting the perfect mix for film scoring. You can do this now by saving files and loading into vegas but you loose things such as cross fades etc. thanks Richard Culver
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Gordian Date:1/14/2004 1:50:57 PM Here's a good idea for acid I got from the latest Sonar update: if upon opening a project a previously used plugin is missing (ie it has been uninstalled) acid should replace it with a "placeholder" that keeps the settings until you reinstall the missing plugin. Does this make any sense? Thanks Gordian
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Djipy Date:1/16/2004 12:34:42 AM I won't read all fhe posts of this topic, so my wishes may be duplicates ;-) - A "true" console for final mixing (vertical faders and knobs for all other parameters, ) - A powerful MIDI editing with all functions (mix tracks, unmix tracks, split by note, split by range, automatic event removal, velocity adjust by absolute values or factor, etc... the same way CAL functions work in Sonar The best MIDI sequencer I ever used is EditTrack on Atari ST (powerful and VERY EASY to use). For more information, visit this page.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: buckaroo Date:1/26/2004 12:49:18 AM The ability to change sections of the wav file loop and add fx like ABLETON ie: Pitch the kick down in a loop and snare up etc or add individual fx to each hit...
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Big_Faced_Boy Date:1/26/2004 7:46:35 AM 1. An LFO for envelope automation. This could be applied to any envelope to allow for autopanning, cutoff automation in filters, and a whole host of other things. 2. A lin/log function for envelopes. 3. vstfx support 4. Master track envelopes lock to timeline. At present, when envelopes are inserted in the master track, they do not lock to the timeline like other envelopes, probably as there is no specific reference, unlike when placing envs on samples. When a chunk of track is moved, any envelopes on the master track remain in place at present and hours of work on the master track are then useless and have to be reapplied. This could be done as a "lock master track envelope" icon on the master track section of the screen. 5. Destructive recording would be helpful, for all those times my playing is gash or my routing is bad! This would save lots of disk space. Fanx BFB
Subject:RE: MIDI,MIDI,MIDI!!!! Reply by: luceses Date:1/26/2004 8:29:15 AM I know that Acid is now a Reason host and that's cool unless you DON'T want to buy more crap! My wish would be to improve on the midi capabilities. I posted way back ,but I wasn't specific....so here goes; 1.It would be great to keep recording or punching in along 1 midi file...so that everytime you make a mistake you don't have to make a completely new track. 2.It would be great if you could view your midi tracks(via the OPT editor)playing back in sync with the project, so that you could microscopically edited parts in the appropriate spot on the timeline. 3.It would be really cool to have some kind of undo feature in the OPT editors. 4.Also, if there was a way to either merge midi files, or better yet, be able to continue recording(via external controller) on an existing midi track. Right now you have to ADD a track in the OPT editor and then use the Piano roll to paint in notes and it takes for ever!!!! This ties in with the #2 suggestion. 5.It would be great to also select a time signature in the OPT editor. Right now if you record from the main window it will automatically default to the project meter, but sometimes if you are doing complex polyrhythm stuff it is nice to only think in those terms. Also, sometimes it is nice to "Insert a Midi File" for very short phrases, but if you do that it defaults to 4/4 everytime even if the project is set differently. Basically, just having the midi feature be more like a "REAL" sequencer as opposed to an after thought. I am looking forward to the new version, because I LOVE MY ACID PRO!!!!!!! Luceses
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jtxx000 Date:1/26/2004 4:38:35 PM 1. VST Effects 2. VSTi freezing like on cubase 3. Group and collapse tracks. Make it so that you can have groups within groups, and also be able to apply effects to entire groups. Each group should also be able to be assigned to a bus track, and you can have a group of only one track (so that you can have a track be on multiple busses at the same time) 4. Cursor follows position in chopper and midi editor 5. Folders for VSTi instruments (like directx plugin page)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: eppik Date:2/4/2004 10:16:02 AM Here are some suggestions: 1. Adjustable control over the 1.1 position 2. A lead in of "X" amount of bars before beginning to record - I guess this would actually be a punch in feature - either automated or pre-determined. 3. Keyboard to Command to follow the playback cursor or not 4. Hardware support [JLCooper CS-102 please :)? ] My reasons: 1. If I want a drum fill to introduce my song, being able to (visually) adjust where the actual song begins at "1.1" would be super. 2. Being able to listen to a bit of the song before actually recording my overdub would add in some nice functionality and would prevent a lot of editing of silent parts that take space before the recording. 3. If I playback a song and hear an error, acid currently gos back to where the cursor last was. If I want to stop in the window I see in front of me during playback, I have to either click in the window as its playing back or manually find that spot after I stop playback.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: eppik Date:2/4/2004 10:17:53 AM Here are some suggestions: 1. Adjustable control over the 1.1 position 2. A lead in of "X" amount of bars before beginning to record - I guess this would actually be a punch in feature - either automated or pre-determined. 3. Keyboard to Command to follow the playback cursor or not 4. Hardware support [JLCooper CS-102 please :)? ] 5. Custom Color Control of loops, beatmapped, one shots, etc. My reasons: 1. If I want a drum fill to introduce my song, being able to (visually) adjust where the actual song begins at "1.1" would be super. 2. Being able to listen to a bit of the song before actually recording my overdub would add in some nice functionality and would prevent a lot of editing of silent parts that take space before the recording. 3. If I playback a song and hear an error, acid currently gos back to where the cursor last was. If I want to stop in the window I see in front of me during playback, I have to either click in the window as its playing back or manually find that spot after I stop playback. 4 & 5. Self explanatory
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: spesimen Date:5/26/2004 4:40:06 PM i wish i had seen this thread back in the day. i sorta lost track of this forum after the switch to sony and found it recently again after some talk on kvr.. Feature 1: Ability to nudge the grid snapping with swing so it's not perfect 1/16 or 1/8 notes all the time. Feature 2: Record more than a single 2-track file at a time. Feature 3: Collapsable tracks - if i edit a few different vocal takes , i'd like to be ablie to "combine" them into one track on screen with one fader and insert fx for all of them. I get some unruly 60-90 track projects sometimes when doing lots of vocal takes and overdubs. an alternative would be to break the "one file, one track" model but that doesn't really seem necessary if i could just select a few tracks and click a "link" option. i'd still like that to just be a relative setting (so each underlying track has its own insert and level) kind of like a a little master bus that they all go through instead. Feature 4: the midi support just isn't that useful to me..partly because the "1-track, 1-file" model doesn't let you do overdubs to fix notes on a bad take for isntance.. i'd really like a simple grid based pattern sequencer that i could slap on a track and drive a vsti..something like the old v909 app or the matrix sequencers in reason. i mostly just use reason as a slave to get around this so it really doesn't matter too much to me but i'd love to do it with other vsti. Feature 5:When beatmapping a track, let me set arbitrary stretch points like in ableton live!!!!! i would absolutely love to be able to sync up recordings of live drums and things that aren't a fixed bpm..the beatmapper really only works with music that was made with a click or drum machine to begin with. oh well, i'm sure i missed the boat on this but thanks for listening!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jroditis Date:5/26/2004 11:40:29 PM 1 I really like this plugin idea! 2 scroll up and down for patch sounds on midi same as cubase 3 enable the description of track to go to a second line instead of being cut off if name is to long 4 right click and tools of your choice appear on floting window Cheers............
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: fresnog Date:5/27/2004 10:41:55 AM My vote for 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 new features: Acid as a ReWire Slave!!!!!!!!! That would be all I need. GregJ
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: TDuck Date:5/27/2004 11:55:59 AM More sophisticated midi quantize function would be nice Possibility to merge midi tracks
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: JohnnyRoy Date:5/27/2004 3:06:02 PM Sorry to be so late to the party. here's my list: 1. Pre-roll/count-in with metronome. You really can’t do any MIDI recording without this since no one can start playing at the exact moment they press start. Right now recorded MIDI files, always, always, always have to be edited to remove lead in time. (I guess the same is true for recording audio as well) 2. Render Busses to WAV files. While we do have the option to automatically render each track as a separate wave, often you have lots of instruments that span multiple tracks but you want them as one WAV file (i.e., rythmn guitar, lead, horns, etc.) to export to Vegas or ProTools. The only way to do this now is to manually solo those tracks and render them separately. 3. Import a MIDI file across tracks. If the MIDI file has multiple tracks this would give you the option of loading it into one track as we have now or each MIDI track as an ACID track. Right now I use Stolen Track to do this manually after the fact but it’s very tedious when there are a lot of tracks. 4. Punch-in/out with takes. Whether it’s a Loop or One Shot, you need the ability to fix mistakes. Right now I record a loop several times and then manually highlight the performance that’s best in the Chopper and render to a new track. That means I always have to make two tracks just to get one. It would be nice to select the take you want to keep like you can in Vegas. 5. When using Render As... with the Save each track as a separate file option, it would be nice if you used the name on the scribble strip (i.e., track header name) as the name of the WAV file instead of the name of the loop (which is often very cryptic and meaningless) Of course then it would be nice if Vegas would name the tracks appropriately when imported but that’s a Vegas request now isn’t it. 6. I would like to be able to save the labels on the additional buses you can set up in the Project Properties. I always have my Number of additional busses set to 4, but they default to Bus A, B, C, D. I’d like to make them say, Percussion, Bass, Rhythm, Lead. so I don’t have to retype that for every new project. ~jr
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Baxter1 Date:5/28/2004 12:59:33 AM I gotta agree with Fresnog: If Acid 5 is a Rewire slave I'll upgrade for sure (although I must admit that VST effect support would be cool, too).
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: slacker Date:5/28/2004 3:32:42 AM I'm with Baxter1 and fresnog - Rewire Slave is a must. It would certainly mean I would upgrade. Slacker
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: METAFOR Date:5/28/2004 8:07:43 AM THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF IS BETTER SYNTHS FOR THE MIDI PLUG-IN
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reverse/Rewire Reply by: tekn0 Date:5/28/2004 12:30:11 PM Im Not Sure If Any Of This Stuff Has Been Mentioned Allready But Here are 2 Functions I Would Really Like To See. 1. Track/Sample Reverse it would be really nice to be able to reverse samples and or tracks in a project like mabye adding a check box or button in the sample properties window to allow the sample or track to be reversed. Or Mabye even adding a hot key like "r" or somthing so when the sample is selected in a track for a project just the selected samples could be reversed. that way not the hole track would have to be reversed just the selected samples in the track. 2. Rewire Slave Support It would also be awesome to be able to add TDM and RTAS plugins vi rewired channel strips in pro tools in real time All In All acid is one of the best programs out and thiese 2 feature requests i think would make such a wonderfull thing even greater :) Thank You For Your Time And Such An Awesome Product.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: last_8 Date:5/28/2004 12:38:31 PM Features: 1. Acid on a G5 Reason: Obvious 2. Acid with the abilty to use an external mixer interface (such as a Mackie) Reason: Faster mixes, Better feel w/mixing on a board, User friendly 3. Acid with the ability to maximize the usage of a PC (or Mac) dual processor Reason: Obvious 4. Acid to make this equation UNTRUE: AP4 + Vegas5 = Cubase or NUENDO or Logic Reason: Acid is the most user friendly/ comprehensive production tool when coupled with VSTi or Rewire software NOW IMAGINE if it was able to harness those same benefits as a monster recording software (ie: multi trk recording, better 24bit capabilities, effect processing on inputs (like a compressor on vocals), or even better acid plugins and better third party usage.) 5. Better displays (maybe darker colors, or more 3D windows/buttons/icons/faders) Reason: More pleasing to the eye
Subject:RE: Endorsee's ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: tmrpro Date:5/29/2004 8:49:37 AM I think ACID is going in the right direction. I haven't read any other user's posts, so if I'm being redundant with someone elses requests, then please forgive me. I've been mixing with Vegas since V3 and using ACID since ACID2. I would like to see the following implemented into ACID: 1. Multitrack Audio/MIDI Record capability Because I'd like this to be my primary Multitrack Audio Application 2. Auto Input with Direct Monitoring for audio Because post application latency is unacceptable 3. Multitrack Audio interface to look, edit and feel exactly like Vegas 5 Vegas is the most intuitive and easiest program made to mix in and if I could cut all my audio, do all my midi tracks and mix everything I do in ACID... it would be the ONLY program on my seven pro studio DAWs.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: xenno Date:5/29/2004 7:10:22 PM I think you're moving in the right direction, basically incorporate acid and vegas together. 1) Full VST/VSTi and directx/DXi implementation. 2)Create a full fledged video/ACID/music/audio/midi/compositing program. I hate the fact I have to switch through all of these programs when they all do similar things. i.e.: Cubase, fruity loops, ACID, Premiere, Combustion, Sound Forge. 3)A loop re-arranger. An internal program that uses the slices to seperate and allow you to move parts around. Even a drum part detector, something that analyses the frequencies of a drum loop and breaks down each part and can turn the process into midi and allow you to utilize one loops beat with another loops sounds and randomize the beat structure to create an entirely different beat.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:5/30/2004 4:16:53 AM reflexion for L ' evolution of acid pro. ¶ ¶why not create a software containing modules? ¶ ¶thanks to the technique "Yamaha" to add modules according to the needs for each one would be sympathetic nerve. ¶ ¶modulate loops and editions ¶modulate midifile ¶audio module multitrack ¶modulate edition wave ¶modulate effects "pulses… etc." ¶ ¶thus, each one could have the software which is appropriate to him. ¶ ¶me,il is necessary acid, vegas for me and soundforge for me ..et I am not satisfied any more on the ergonomics plan. ¶ ¶that is more heavy. ¶ ¶ergonomics "to be able to stretch the sound as with melodine is interressant. ¶ ¶to compose into live like ableton live, also… ¶acid should not run behind cubase,protools,sonar,samplitude… etc… ¶but it must be always an innovator in ergonomics. ¶ ¶easy to use. ¶ ¶with today more time réel.the PC allow it. ¶ ¶finally, of the video demonstration of the functions of acid for pedagogy, would be indispensable.on would save much time to integrate leusr uses. ¶
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:5/31/2004 5:34:29 AM Sirs of sony.... We know that you work with passion. You are for the listening of your customers and your shareholders. It is normal to choose. It is normal to make sortings in the propositions. We like products sony. We sometimes ask for everything and the opposite following the user. But our remarks are not to criticize you. We pass of time on products acid, vegas, and soundforge. Our new demands, are partially connected to the changes of orientations of acid and vegas. Acid was a tremendous to tracker it changed by opening at the idifile and vst. Vegas pro was an exellent multitrack audio. It changed it open in the video. Then here is. Those who exclusively wish to make of the audio, find with regret of the functions and the tools to the competition, who are very useful and miss now in acid or vegas. It no speak not no to redo " samplitude or nuendo. or ableton live3 melodyne etc.... No. We just have to buy them. But to continue the spirit of departure; easy to use, effective tools and of audio quality. What annoys me, it is not to take advantage of essential tools otherwise with " rewire ". Furthermore when I invested in vegas " video " I buy video function which I would never use. You cannot thus be also effective as the competitors. You have to develop for an identical ;money in 2 different domains. Good courage.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: rome Date:5/31/2004 9:24:13 PM I'm really interested in Fireware Control Surfaces. I would like to see out the box integration with the most popular ones.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: VMP Date:6/1/2004 4:16:42 AM Animated Graphical meter that shows frequencies from 20 - 20.000 Hz So that I can tune every instrument loops (separate tracks) to different frequencies. This wil help seperate the frequenties of the instruments better and make the listening experience better. ( like the video scopes in Vegas video ) For example 2 hihats - 1 set on 10.000 Hz and other to 16.000 Hz.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: wazer Date:6/4/2004 6:45:47 AM wow! ..let's see. (sorry if there are some double-posts) FEATURE 1 : LOOPABLE FOLDER TRACKS / ALIAS / GHOST- containing many "real" tracks, one-shots and loops. WHY : HOW TO BUILD for e.g a 4/4 loop without listening the guide track wich is for e.g. 16/4 long?!?? when my 4/4 loop is "ready" i'm NOT gonna bounce, becouse of the later variations and mixing. i need to keep the one-shots separated!! plus this could save vertical space.. when a folder track is opened it should show all the repeated contents LOGICALLY COPYED. a simple move of a "foldered" instance should move in ALL "foldered" of course. FEATURE 2 : SNAP OFFSET - just like in Vegas. WHY : all of my samples containing some pre-noise before they start, i love to work with them. i find this very handy to give the loop some "natural groove feeling", plus they fill some gaps.. the PEAK position needs to be quantized, not the start. FEATURE 3 : SIMPLE NAVIGATING CURSOR. WHY : i feel unconfortable to navigate with the pencil. Vegas got it. I love it. FEATURE 4 : CROSSFADES. WHY : without this i can't design my sounds, what i can do in Vegas.. FEATURE 5 : MIDI TRIGGER FOR PLACING SAMPLES WHY : placing samples via my masterkeyboard is faster than use the mouse or my rat. like the MIDI tracks, but wanna see the SAMPLES, not the MIDI events. i hate MIDI. ... well, this is my concept in 5 (restricted) steps to turn ACID a PROFESSIONAL LOOP SEQ. i'm searching for a SERIOUS LOOP BUILDER app, i do not plan to use beatmapped / streched methods. i work similar to Recycle, but i do that (and much more) in SF. FOLDERS, please do loopable folder tracks! thanx w!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: METAFOR Date:6/4/2004 12:21:53 PM TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO REVERSE A SAMPLE IN REAL TIME
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Iacobus Date:6/4/2004 1:24:41 PM So what you're saying is you'd like to be able to reverse a sample in real time? ;o) Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page Guitars 4 Kids
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: rome Date:6/14/2004 11:39:08 AM I would love to see a sheet music scroll a la Sonar.(Can be used in place of piano scroll)
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: The_Boy_Flood Date:6/14/2004 1:16:14 PM 1 - Reversing of samples on the fly 2 - Better Midi 3 - Better FX 4 - MORE STABLE!!! 5 - Compatability with as many plugin types etc as you poss can Thank you for asking our opinion Namaste The Boy Flood
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: funkrabbit Date:8/3/2004 12:14:49 PM 1. The ability to trigger samples (most importantly one-shots) physically, and have the resulting sequence recorded. For example, i might want to program my kick/snare pattern in the sequence by using my computer keyboard or a MIDI controller. This feature would be a huge attraction for more hip hop style producers who are used to the MPC method of banging out a drum sequence. Ableton Live does it.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Monki Date:8/3/2004 11:14:00 PM 01) I would like the midi to record a new track without the box popping up asking you to make lots of selections. 02) Again with the midi, it would be good to be able to loop a section and add to the existing midi track. 03) It would also be great to be able to edit the midi, then start the loop playing again and continue to play the keyboard adding to the midi track. Cheers, Monki.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: ziggly Date:8/4/2004 7:58:07 AM I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF THE IDEAS HERE..... SNAPPY'S NUMBER ONE REQUEST WAS BRILLIANT...the idea of creating patterns by means of midi input and 'JAMMING".anything that makes acid more of an instrument SUGIERE'S POST WAS BRILLIANT......tempo envelopes. MORE FILE SUPPORT AS SOME HAVE MENTIONED, LIKE REX FILES AND SOUND DESIGNER II FILES and the ability to automatically save whole projects into any such file types PLEASE , PLEASE THE ABILITY TO PLAY MIDI KEYBOARD AND HAVE THE NOTES APPEAR IN THE PIANO ROLL...am i dreaming ?drawing notes in is primitive THRESHOLD LEVEL RECORDING...when volume crosses a certian level ,it begins recording the reasons why, for all these ideas...well i would like to use less apps. Having one very flexible program is a godsend
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: DeadbyDesign Date:8/6/2004 7:07:17 PM The ability to throw a map on the piano roll. This would be so much easier than committing to memory where all my drums lie.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: DANADAX Date:8/8/2004 9:29:01 AM 1. VST effects support. The reason why is... because there's so many VST fx floating about, and I am tired of trying to find a direct-x version (which sometimes... there is not a direct-x version). 2. Apply FX while recording. As in, if you are recording yourself singing, and you want to have a reverb/echo/delay/whatever effect, you can hear it while you are recording. Kind of like an effects box I guess. Analog gear can do this, such as a vocal fx processor, so i think it'd be really great to have this feature for a computer program such as acid. 3. Reverse a sample in real time. The reason why: Interesting results. 4. Have MIDI data assigned to certain samples or drum one-shots. The reason why: I make my own percussion sounds a lot, and I don't want to sit there and edit them to flow into each other. I also don't want to download another software rhythm box/drum machine, when I could just tell acid that when I hit a certain note with MIDI, it should trigger this sample/one shot. this next one is related to #4. 5. I think Acid should be able to have a SysEx feature. Cubase has it. I think Logic does, too. It would save me a lot of stress. Or at least find a way where midi notes in Acid can control drum machines! I am tired of always manually having to program my drum machine. If I can make a pattern in the piano roll editor and have my hardware drum machine play it back, that would be amazing! I guess SysEx can do that, too... or at least capture the data from drum machines. But anyway, let Acid have SysEx capabilities!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: buckaroo Date:8/8/2004 3:26:50 PM Also a "Export Copy to Soundforge" in the track mode? This would be great in Acid as its in Vegas 5, so instead of a render you can just send the whole Loop/Audio part to Soundforge where you can edit/rev/add VST fx to audio and then place back in Acid... I just found this really easy in Vegas, but its not in Acid... yet?!
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Laurence Date:8/9/2004 7:57:16 AM Here's what I want to see: Harmonic transpose: I wish as an option you could go in to a Loop and have it either automatically or manually assign slices note names and scale degrees. The song could then be assigned a key and loops with third scale degrees could sound major or minor depending on the transposition. Minor 7 flat 5's and diminished and augmented chords would be nice to ;) Oh yeah, midi loops should do the same, a la Sonar or Cubase.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Dj_Kamykazzee Date:8/9/2004 1:25:31 PM 1. I would like for acid to actually add reatime plugin and effects to midi files like you can with the loops and one shots. 2. why not take some features out of sound forge and put them in ACID like processing something directly in ACID instead of using a separate app (which takes up more CPU so you are more liable to lose some of your project if not all). Thus this could eliminate Sound Forge and leave ACID 5 the cutting edge editing music production suite which would kick steinberg in the ass. 3. unlimited busses would be a cool feature 4. i beg of you guys to have mercy on cpu please..... find some other means to run acid because sometimes my projects are soo large acid won't even load them up because it eats all my memory and fries my processor.........i often finding myself doing a hard kill on ACID. 5. why not make your own pro audio effects line. ya know something that would blow waves away nut it would be exclusively for acid. doin this would make the plugins in the mix more automatible and easier to manage and would probably take some damage off the cpu. 6.Make an exclusive Synth (or Synths!!!!) for Acid would be totally freaking awesome because most companies today offer that with there audio apps to help you get started and also save you some serious change.......this would also kill steinberg and many others!!!!!!. look at it as ACID being a spitting image of Reason but without the Refills!!!yay more hardrive
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: BarryBond Date:8/12/2004 7:25:19 AM I don't know if this has been posted yet, but can you please make it so that it's possible to highlight tempo markers and move them with the rest of the selection. It's a pain having to move each one individually when I want to move everything over by a few seconds. Thanks. -b
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: twain Date:8/12/2004 7:46:22 AM hi thanks for asking 1 midi editor in track view. 2 multiple outputs on vsti's 3 vst fx 4 fx and vsti freeze 5 match quantize midi tracks with audio files. i have more but you asked for 5.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: Rednroll Date:8/12/2004 8:26:12 AM Major midi sequencing improvements. 1. Master keyboard/midi port selection without having to create a midi track. 2. Master Patch selection abiltiy after selecting that specific keyboard. 3. Ability to put nested acid projects onto 1 track. Example: I want to create seperate Acid projects like INTRO,VERSE,CHORUS. Then I would like to make a master Acid project, where I can creat 1 track and assemble these other projects along the timeline where they'll just appear as blocks on 1 track. Then if I click on that block I can edit the data. 4. Notation view/editor for midi tracks. 5. Linked piano roll, Notation view,list editor. Example: The ability to select a note in the piano roll, open list editor and that note/notes are selected in list editor, same if I select the notation view.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: D92 Date:8/12/2004 1:55:13 PM 1. Merge Tracks into One (helps with normalizing, and adding some drops) 2. Improve recording. Show tracks as they are being recorded (like in ProTools). 3. Big timer.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: bbcdrum Date:10/26/2004 8:20:19 AM 1. Support for midi sysex dump. I have a drum machine that allows me to dump the entire machine setup or individual drum kits to and from a sequencer for archiving and retrieval. I would like to be able to record and play back separate kit configurations on separate tracks. Thanks.
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: jam Date:10/26/2004 2:55:18 PM Better FX and a audio editing tool like one in melodyne or new Samplitude 8
Subject:RE: Try again: ACID 5 feature requests Reply by: gjn Date:10/27/2004 12:48:05 PM calculatte in 64 bits

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