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Subject:This Is absolutley NO fun
Posted by: KevSca
Date:9/13/2003 3:46:59 PM
It's like I'm just wasting my time! I can't tell you how many times I've crashed while using Acid. I've tried reording vocals through my Ozone... Acid crashes. I render some basic loop tracks together... Acid crashes. I could work within my new Reason program and no problem. Could somebody PLEASE give me some insite before I just pack it all up. I'm tired of destroying my computer it the process. Regards, Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: Illiterite_Wino
Date:9/13/2003 4:23:54 PM
that doesn't sound like fun... Have you made sure you have downloaded the newest update for acid? Or you could always completely uninstall Acid and then reinstall it again.... sorry I couldn't be of much more help, but I would have to say from personal experience that Acid is a great program, well worth the effort to try and remedy your ailment. Wino |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: jam
Date:9/13/2003 6:59:15 PM
what Acid Version? What OS version? What audio hardware in use? with such additions from you, we can maybe help you. jam |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/13/2003 7:12:08 PM
I am using the AcidPro 4.0e version with windows XP Home. I am playing through the M-Audio Ozone's driver. When I record through the pc's sound card via that chaep condenser mic on the monitor everything seems to work fine(I took 28 experiment takes just to see). So I'm guessing it has something to do with the Ozone. What do you think. I even uninstalled and reinstalled the M-audio updated driver, but the problem repeats. The updated driver version I downloaded at M-audio said "recording issue resolved". Well... if they say so! Please help! Thanks in advance. Regards, Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: gunhed
Date:9/13/2003 7:23:52 PM
Other things to try: Install latest DriectX (9a, I think) and try again Install latest video drivers and try again Lower video drivers' acceleration down to zip and try again (no joke) |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/14/2003 9:00:56 AM
Now this is weird. When I plug a cheap 1/4" jacked mic into Ozone and record There is no problem. It's when I use my good mic through the XLR input w/ Phantom power I get problems. Anybody know what's going on? Could m-audio not be compatable with some Acid aplications? Regards, Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: drbam
Date:9/14/2003 10:10:22 AM
M-audio is notorious for driver problems with SOFO apps and hasn't been the least bit cooperative with SOFO developers to fix this issue. Hence, I personally don't use their stuff. That being said, *if* you can get it working on your system, you will probably be satisfied with the Maudio products (as others are). This is not to say that the Maudio drivers are your problem, although its sounding like it. Personally I'd switch to an Echo card and get on with making music. ;-) drbam |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/14/2003 4:49:38 PM
So would returning the Ozone and exchanging it for an Oxygen w/ a MiaMidi card be a safe bet? |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: jam
Date:9/14/2003 5:03:52 PM
Kevin, your problem sesciption seems to show this is a M-Audio incompabilty, but I'm neither a specialist nor skilled enough in hardware/software rlationship. Anyway, latest DirectX and and Video drivers can bring some 'fix' too. It has been seen in the past using latest drivers (both audio AND video) can solved audio problems. Good luck, jam |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/14/2003 8:51:16 PM
Well, I do my windows updates pretty regularly and I did download the latest DirectX stuff yesterday, but the problem still exsists. So I guess I'm forced to spend a little more $ and exchange the Ozone for the Oxygen, MiaMidi and a preamp. OH WELL! Thanks for the advice guys!!!!! |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: jam
Date:9/16/2003 12:49:30 PM
Kevin, can you just reinstall EVERYTHING? I mean, XP, divers uptodate, and Acid, ans see it it works OK or not... When a computer is connected to the net AND is used to make music, this association is not, for me, the best, I'd say even this is the worse! So, it's worth spending FIRST some 2-3 hours in reinstalling everything (after a format, do a clean install) and see if your problems remain or not. Regards, jam |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/16/2003 12:59:14 PM
In addition to what jam said, formatting and reinstalling may help you out but use it as a last ditch effort. I've had problems with an M-Audio product in the past but nothing major (the USB Duo). The Audiophile 2496 also works well for me. Does the Ozone act as a standalone unit? I'm thinking maybe you could connect it to an interface such as the Echo MiaMIDI if that's the case. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/16/2003 1:28:11 PM
I would imagine I could just usb the keyboard and use Mia's audio interface for recording but I would return the Ozone anyway for an Oxygen . It's seems such a waist of $ to have the two audio interfaces(mia & Ozone). If I was considering a laptop in the future I might keep the Ozone. Anyway I called M-Audio about the problem, we went through a few things and the tech seems to think the keyboard is defective. He said it's rare when an audio interface crashes your computer. He also said there is a lot of acid users he knows out there that utilize the Ozone with no problem. I'm going to return this one tonight, get a new one and hope that he's right. I'll let you know of any good news soon. Regards, Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: jam
Date:9/17/2003 3:07:35 PM
Kevin, I keep my fingers crossed for you. Regards, jam |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/20/2003 7:32:43 AM
Well here's the deal. I got the miamidi & the Oxygen, along with the other audio stuff I needed. Everything seemed to work fine up to my 23rd test take. Then I crash! Now I know after every take, acid puts that take into My Documents after I delete it from track view. Is having all those files in my documents causing the crash? There was something like 43 files from acid alone there. My brother was wondering if acid still had all those running some how causing the overload. Also now I'm runn ig 760 MB of ram so I think I sould have enough. Any input? Thanks in advance. Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/20/2003 12:56:48 PM
At least you're having an easier time now. ;o) Don't think that would cause it. Anything you delete from the track view shouldn't factor into the equation. Beatmapped and One-shot (those longer than 3 seconds) tracks playback from the hard drive; never from RAM. As soon as delete the track from the track view, you can delete the file from the Explorer by right-clicking on the file and selecting, "Delete." Did you try testing takes by doing it on a project-by-project folder basis? Once you put takes in a specific folder and save the project, ACID remembers that exact folder when you open that project later on. Did you try reducing or turning off video acceleration? What if you turned the meters off? HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/20/2003 10:43:51 PM
Turned the graphics acceleration off, but same crash problem. Turning the meters off? Are you talking about the meters in the record dialog box? If you are, how do you do that? I'm really running out of hope and options for any quality recording :( It's been queit a thread so here's the low down: *Crashed when recording through OZONE's audio interface. *Crashed when recording through MiaMidi's audio interface. *Graphics acceleration turned all the way off. *Windows updated regularly. *DirectX up to date. *Running AcidPro 4.0e *Will not crash recording through the computers own Microsoft Sound Mapper (which really does not help me as a quality audio interface). What might be next? I'm without a clue! Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: KevSca
Date:9/21/2003 11:50:36 AM
I just got trough talking to a comp. tech and he said the problem is all in my computer. He said my Hp just is not the computer for doing any audio recording applications. He said I need a faster hard drive(7200 or something like that) and a motherboard with a complete Intel chip set and some other stuff(no he is not a sales person). I wish I would of known this stuff before I got started, Oh well. I could still pretty much return the keyboard, headphone pre and mic pre. If anybody wants to buy a Reason or Acid program cheap let me Know. Thanks for all your help. Take care. Regards, Kevin |
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Subject:RE: This Is absolutley NO fun
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:9/22/2003 1:17:36 PM
While it's generally accepted that you can't do any serious work on such a system, you should be able to get by with what you have. Your friend was referring to the RPM (rounds per minute) your hard drive is capable of. A 7200 RPM hard drive is (on average) about 33% faster than a 5400 RPM model, which translates into faster data access. (10000 RPM Serial ATA models are starting to trickle out now.) Has this system been reformatted at all since you've had it? You could try that as a last ditch effort. Remember that you do not want anything installed that you do not plan to use for music making. HTH, Iacobus ------- RodelWorks - Original Music for the Unafraid mD's ACIDplanet Page |