Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? -ACID Product Family

Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Posted by: plastique Date:9/7/2003 6:48:00 PM hi, i use ACID4 mainly with freeware softsynths and as they're not documented very well i'm looking for a way how to find out if/how/on which channels a VSTi is receiving CC messages. Are there any particular methods to finding this out ? regards, plastique PS: btw , has the DLS Softsynth any CC features as well ?
Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Reply by: groovewerx Date:9/7/2003 7:33:03 PM I don't use AP4 but if you get Chainer (SA + VSTi) you can load it into Acid and the load it (Chainer) with your plugs. In chainer you can assign CC#s to parameter controls with MIDI learn. FYI: Some great freebies (SuperWave P8) come with a .txt that lists CC#s. Most plugs will use the same #s as hardware. The Novation A-Station manual lists the most common. Go read it:
Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Reply by: pwppch Date:9/7/2003 7:45:21 PM Go to http://www.kvr-vst.com They have CC lists for many VSTis. Peter
Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Reply by: plastique Date:9/8/2003 8:55:03 AM thanks for answering , i will try chainer , looks very promising !
Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Reply by: plastique Date:9/8/2003 8:57:49 AM i couldn't find anything there , just links to manufacturers of controller boxes, anywhere i haven't looked by chance ?
Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ? Reply by: pwppch Date:9/8/2003 10:16:12 AM Hmm. This seems to have changed. There once was a link to softsynth CC's and such. Did you try contacting the vendor/developer of the plugins you need this information for? As far as what channels, most freeware are very limited with regard to their multi-channelness". That is, they typically use a single channel or omni modes of operation. Note also the reason that they are freeware is that they don't have the QA and documentation ability that a commerical company does. For example, the NI VSTis all have extensive documentation regarding their CC and other control features. But you have to pay for this kind of support. Peter
Subject:solution found Reply by: plastique Date:9/8/2003 6:31:23 PM i guess now i found the solution (thanks to grooovewerx) with chainer which lists all adjustable parameters in a kind of gui-less mode and lets even midi learn to a specific controller. this truly rox :))) best regards to sonicfoundry, plastique
Subject:RE: solution found Reply by: groovewerx Date:9/26/2003 10:13:56 PM Glad I could help.

Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Posted by: plastique

Date:9/7/2003 6:48:00 PM

hi,
i use ACID4 mainly with freeware softsynths and as they're not documented very well i'm looking for a way how to find out if/how/on which channels a VSTi is receiving CC messages.
Are there any particular methods to finding this out ?

regards,
plastique

PS: btw , has the DLS Softsynth any CC features as well ?

Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Reply by: groovewerx

Date:9/7/2003 7:33:03 PM

I don't use AP4 but if you get Chainer (SA + VSTi) you can load it into Acid and the load it (Chainer) with your plugs. In chainer you can assign CC#s to parameter controls with MIDI learn.

FYI: Some great freebies (SuperWave P8) come with a .txt that lists CC#s. Most plugs will use the same #s as hardware. The Novation A-Station manual lists the most common. Go read it:

Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:9/7/2003 7:45:21 PM

Go to

http://www.kvr-vst.com

They have CC lists for many VSTis.

Peter

Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Reply by: plastique

Date:9/8/2003 8:55:03 AM

thanks for answering , i will try chainer , looks very promising !

Subject:Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Reply by: plastique

Date:9/8/2003 8:57:49 AM

i couldn't find anything there , just links to manufacturers of controller boxes, anywhere i haven't looked by chance ?

Subject:RE: Finding out Midi CC of Softsynths ?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:9/8/2003 10:16:12 AM

Hmm. This seems to have changed. There once was a link to softsynth CC's and such.

Did you try contacting the vendor/developer of the plugins you need this information for?

As far as what channels, most freeware are very limited with regard to their multi-channelness". That is, they typically use a single channel or omni modes of operation.

Note also the reason that they are freeware is that they don't have the QA and documentation ability that a commerical company does. For example, the NI VSTis all have extensive documentation regarding their CC and other control features. But you have to pay for this kind of support.

Peter

Subject:solution found

Reply by: plastique

Date:9/8/2003 6:31:23 PM

i guess now i found the solution (thanks to grooovewerx) with chainer which lists all adjustable parameters in a kind of gui-less mode and lets even midi learn to a specific controller.
this truly rox :)))

best regards to sonicfoundry,
plastique

Subject:RE: solution found

Reply by: groovewerx

Date:9/26/2003 10:13:56 PM

Glad I could help.