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Subject:CHER vocal effect
Posted by: mariauserinfo
Date:7/20/2003 3:37:32 PM

If you have listen to CHER's BELIEVE song you will notice what want to get.
Is it available any plug or effect to have this Great Vocal Effect???

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: MJhig
Date:7/20/2003 4:23:42 PM

That's a vocorder. I believe (NPI) www.analogx.com has a free one. I can't vouch for it though I haven't tried it.

MJ

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:7/20/2003 8:18:34 PM

Actually, It's Antares Autotune. Normally, this plugin is used to put vocals in tune, when a note is slightly off key. In the instance of Cher "Believe", they intentionally over used it, by pitch bending the notes too far.

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: MJhig
Date:7/20/2003 9:29:09 PM

Really!

Please point me to the documentation on that, I'd love to read about it.

MJ

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: Geoff_Wood
Date:7/21/2003 2:46:01 AM

It is severely applied Autotune. It is also extremely tiresome, well thrashed, and already dated. An excellent way to get people to switch off your music.

But that's just my opinion ....

geoff

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: DCools
Date:7/21/2003 4:24:00 AM

Just have a look at this:

Recording Cher's 'Believe'

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: MJhig
Date:7/21/2003 12:28:23 PM

Very informative article Died. Thanks for posting.

I used to cover Believe a few years back and the singer saw Cher on a talkshow saying it was a vocorder. She (the singer) said "I need a vocorder!" we said "for one song?".

MJ

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:7/21/2003 2:37:29 PM

I stand corrected, it was a vocoder.

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: Geoff_Wood
Date:7/21/2003 3:42:13 PM

I stand corrected too. This artical is certainly more authoriative that the oe I read describing how it was done with Auto-tune !

However , a similar effect can be obtained with Auto-tune, and is similarly tiresome when over-used by many peope over a short time. Like in ten years *if the music is not totally forgotten) people will say "Oh yes, that must have been recorded late-2002 ! " . Alan Parsons notwithstanding....

geoff

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: drbam
Date:7/21/2003 5:19:49 PM

In the Autotune manual there is mention of the "Cher effect" in the tuning speed section. I believe the reason why autotune became known as the efx used in the recording is that Cher's sound crew used the hardware version in her live performances. Several people have commented that they could easily hear the because of the radical tweaking (setting the speed to zero). ;-)

drbam

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: alexderennes
Date:7/22/2003 10:51:00 AM

The AnalogX Plugin does not work on my mashine. ABORT: Unable to load C:\Program Files/AnalogX\Vocoder (winmain.C \116). What does this error message mean?

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: pwppch
Date:7/22/2003 2:55:46 PM

There was an article in SOS mag (the British rag) where the producers/engineers said it was a Vocoder - and exernal one.

Peter

Subject:RE: CHER vocal effect
Reply by: alexderennes
Date:7/22/2003 3:50:00 PM

Digitech Talker..... no longer made, check ebay

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