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Subject:rerouting Reason 2.5 synths Posted by: jocks Date:7/6/2003 11:37:43 AM hi there, I'm glad that SF added rewire to Acid. it has been a topic here at the forum since it came out on the market. has anybody tried to reroute an instrument to separate inputs in Acid ? Reason use two mono outputs to sent out a stereo signal, but Acid treat those like two stereo pairs. is there a reason fot this behavior, or have I found a bug ? /jocke
Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths Reply by: Iacobus Date:7/8/2003 1:29:59 PM Actually, you have two options with how you want to use Reason and ACID together. One is to use ACID as a ReWire mixer as you've noted. When using ACID in this manner, you should not use Reason's Mixer module. (Propellerhead mentions this in Reason's operation manual.) Route each device in Reason into the hardware interface and then insert channels as appropriate in ACID. For example, if you open Redrum in Reason and route it to Channels 3 and 4 in Reason's hardware interface, then you should add Channels 3 and 4 respectively in ACID's Mixer. With ReWire 2 (which ACID supports), you also have the option of creating or inserting a MIDI track and routing that track straight into Reason. You can even route the MIDI track to a specific device in Reason if you wish. If you use this option, you can either use Reason's mixer or use ACID as a mixer as stated before. HTH, Iacobus
Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths Reply by: pwppch Date:7/9/2003 10:21:50 AM A ReWire device tells us how to organize its audio channels. Most ReWire devices assign the first two mono-channels of their bus as a stereo master. That is how ACID exposes things. Since ACID ONLY permits stereo buses in its MIXER, all of the buses exposed by a ReWire device that are marked to be ungrouped, ACID just routes them one to one to a Stereo bus. What you need to do is rout stereo devices in Reason to the stereo master bus of Reason. If you route a stereo synth in Reason to two different mono buses in Reason, then you will have to route the seperate mono buses of Reason to two stereo buses in ACID. This is how ACID works and how Reason(ReWire) defines its behavior. Since ReWire does NOT permit the user to group ReWire buses dynamically, we had to choose a routing model that was consistent with what the ReWire device tells us. We are look at alternatives to permit ACID to ignore the buse groupings that ReWire devices define. No promises though. Peter
Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths Reply by: groovewerx Date:7/9/2003 10:52:24 AM A 3rd option if your soundcard supports it is to route Reason (or whatever) to seperate outputs and feed those outs back into your soundcard's main inputs. I do this in order to blend/layer softsynths with their hardware counterparts through a mixer before recording them into Acid Music.

Subject:rerouting Reason 2.5 synths

Posted by: jocks

Date:7/6/2003 11:37:43 AM

hi there,
I'm glad that SF added rewire to Acid. it has been a topic here at the forum since it came out on the market.
has anybody tried to reroute an instrument to separate inputs in Acid ?
Reason use two mono outputs to sent out a stereo signal, but Acid treat those like two stereo pairs. is there a reason fot this behavior, or have I found a bug ?
/jocke

Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:7/8/2003 1:29:59 PM

Actually, you have two options with how you want to use Reason and ACID together.

One is to use ACID as a ReWire mixer as you've noted. When using ACID in this manner, you should not use Reason's Mixer module. (Propellerhead mentions this in Reason's operation manual.) Route each device in Reason into the hardware interface and then insert channels as appropriate in ACID.

For example, if you open Redrum in Reason and route it to Channels 3 and 4 in Reason's hardware interface, then you should add Channels 3 and 4 respectively in ACID's Mixer.

With ReWire 2 (which ACID supports), you also have the option of creating or inserting a MIDI track and routing that track straight into Reason. You can even route the MIDI track to a specific device in Reason if you wish. If you use this option, you can either use Reason's mixer or use ACID as a mixer as stated before.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths

Reply by: pwppch

Date:7/9/2003 10:21:50 AM

A ReWire device tells us how to organize its audio channels. Most ReWire devices assign the first two mono-channels of their bus as a stereo master. That is how ACID exposes things.

Since ACID ONLY permits stereo buses in its MIXER, all of the buses exposed by a ReWire device that are marked to be ungrouped, ACID just routes them one to one to a Stereo bus.

What you need to do is rout stereo devices in Reason to the stereo master bus of Reason. If you route a stereo synth in Reason to two different mono buses in Reason, then you will have to route the seperate mono buses of Reason to two stereo buses in ACID.

This is how ACID works and how Reason(ReWire) defines its behavior. Since ReWire does NOT permit the user to group ReWire buses dynamically, we had to choose a routing model that was consistent with what the ReWire device tells us.

We are look at alternatives to permit ACID to ignore the buse groupings that ReWire devices define. No promises though.

Peter

Subject:RE: rerouting Reason 2.5 synths

Reply by: groovewerx

Date:7/9/2003 10:52:24 AM

A 3rd option if your soundcard supports it is to route Reason (or whatever) to seperate outputs and feed those outs back into your soundcard's main inputs.

I do this in order to blend/layer softsynths with their hardware counterparts through a mixer before recording them into Acid Music.