Inverse Telecine???

risenwithhim wrote on 6/14/2003, 1:57 PM
Okay, somebody answer me this. I am transferring our VHS tapes to DVD. So, the movies that were originally films (ie, "Ever After") were telecined to VHS tape. Okay, so, shouldn't I be able to capture them at 60i, then convert them somehow back to "24p" in order to use a higher bitrate on the DVD due to saved space from fewer frames?
For that matter, DVD Architect only offers the 29.97 framerate. So, even if i could get these movies back to 24p, which setting would I use on DVD-A?

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BillyBoy wrote on 6/14/2003, 3:23 PM
First off if you are transfering from VHS to DVD I don't care what frame you capture at, they will never get to be DVD quaility. It isn't the frame rate, but the BITRATE the file was/is.

NTSC DVD IS 29.97 frame rate. Again, AFAIK you would accomplish nothing doing what you're thinking.

I think what you're after is somehow to get a higher quality image from a low quality source. Short answer; you can't. Bumping up the bitrate will only succeed in bloating the file size.

This is one of those times when using a LOWER bitrate to make your DVD may make sense. Trying to encode a VHS tape source to high bitrate values won't help.
risenwithhim wrote on 6/15/2003, 9:32 PM
Anybody else want to take a stab at it? Again, the films were originally 24fps, telecined to 29.97 interlaced for VHS, and I'm trying to re-tool them back to 24p. Anyone know of a way to do this with Vegas?

I'm just trying to sqeeze a couple of shelves of VHS tapes into a small folder of DVD's and want to preserve them at the highest quality when possible. Just thought it would be cool if this 24p thing would work.
Kirk wrote on 6/16/2003, 1:03 AM
I have been begging for Sonic foundry to incorporate a 3-2 removal tool, but it does not have one. Pullin your footage with the best deck you can. An S-VHS deck will do a little better through an S VHS cable. It won't be S VHS of course, but you will still be bringing in info Y/C. Either bring it into After effects and use "interpret footage" to "guess 3-2 pulldown," and then render out a 23.976 fps project, then bring it into DVDA, or use TMPGenc to encode the footage. It has a 3-2 removal tool, and will encode a 24fps DVD, saving you space, plus noise reducing filters, all in one step.
risenwithhim wrote on 6/17/2003, 1:12 PM
Thanks for the ideas. I'm using S-Video on S-VHS deck by the way...

So, in DVD-A, if you bring in 23.97fps footage, what format is the project set for? There's no 24p setting, only 29.97...
SonySDB wrote on 6/17/2003, 3:42 PM
It should be set to "NTSC (720x480, 29.970 fps)".

In case you're not already aware of this, here is a link to a document about 24p which you may find useful:
http://www.sonicfoundry.com/support/productinfo/24p.pdf
risenwithhim wrote on 6/28/2003, 8:49 AM
Above and Beyond!!! The Q & A section at the end had the answer to my question. You guys are really on top of your game.

Here's to SoFo support!