Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible? -ACID Product Family

Subject:Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible? Posted by: jtuffen Date:5/8/2003 10:48:30 AM Right. All I want to do is use Spektral Delay as a DirectX plugin in Acid 4.0b. Unfortunately, it is not recognised by Acid 4.0b (it is, however, recognised by Vegas Audio LE 2.0). I posted a query on the NI forum, and got the following reply: "The problem is that Sonic Foundry decided not a show DirectX plugins that are also DXi plugins (DirectX is a subset of DXi). They assume that a plugin that can handle MIDI events also need MIDI events." So, is Spektral Delay basically incompatible with Acid 4.0b? Do I have to move software platforms again (back to CuBase? - used it in the Atari ST days, then Logic on PC, then Acid....)??? Why is it recognised in an old SoFo app, but not a new one?! Acid would be great for automating all those parameters!! john.. (A bit annoyed at this...)
Subject:RE: Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible? Reply by: pwppch Date:5/8/2003 12:19:32 PM >>"The problem is that Sonic Foundry decided not a show DirectX plugins that are also DXi plugins (DirectX is a subset of DXi). They assume that a plugin that can handle MIDI events also need MIDI events." << We chose the safe route: Anything that claims to be DXi we WONT expose, as bad DXi's exist that crash if they are treated like DX FX plugins. The older versions of our apps work because DXi didn't exist when these apps were created. We added the safetly check for DXi after Vegas Audio 2.0 LE. We will look at this issue again for future versions of our products. Peter
Subject:RE: Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible? Reply by: jtuffen Date:5/9/2003 4:21:59 AM Ok, Thanks Peter... I'll see if I can get the VST version to work a bit more reliably... after all, I haven't tried the v1.5 VST plugin yet... About crashing: Of course, there are badly-written VSTi's that will crash Acid as well... Is a DX/DXi crash worse? I know that (from SF's point of view) there is a support overhead when supporting plugins... but you have that already with VSTi's... :) Heh, yesterday was a bad day; not enough sleep, too much coffee. john..

Subject:Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible?

Posted by: jtuffen

Date:5/8/2003 10:48:30 AM

Right. All I want to do is use Spektral Delay as a DirectX plugin in Acid 4.0b. Unfortunately, it is not recognised by Acid 4.0b (it is, however, recognised by Vegas Audio LE 2.0). I posted a query on the NI forum, and got the following reply:

"The problem is that Sonic Foundry decided not a show DirectX plugins that are also DXi plugins (DirectX is a subset of DXi). They assume that a plugin that can handle MIDI events also need MIDI events."

So, is Spektral Delay basically incompatible with Acid 4.0b? Do I have to move software platforms again (back to CuBase? - used it in the Atari ST days, then Logic on PC, then Acid....)???

Why is it recognised in an old SoFo app, but not a new one?! Acid would be great for automating all those parameters!!

john..

(A bit annoyed at this...)

Subject:RE: Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:5/8/2003 12:19:32 PM

>>"The problem is that Sonic Foundry decided not a show DirectX plugins that are also DXi plugins (DirectX is a subset of DXi). They assume that a plugin that can handle MIDI events also need MIDI events."
<<
We chose the safe route:
Anything that claims to be DXi we WONT expose, as bad DXi's exist that crash if they are treated like DX FX plugins.

The older versions of our apps work because DXi didn't exist when these apps were created. We added the safetly check for DXi after Vegas Audio 2.0 LE.

We will look at this issue again for future versions of our products.

Peter

Subject:RE: Native Instruments Spektral Delay and Acid 4.0. Incompatible?

Reply by: jtuffen

Date:5/9/2003 4:21:59 AM

Ok, Thanks Peter...

I'll see if I can get the VST version to work a bit more reliably... after all, I haven't tried the v1.5 VST plugin yet...

About crashing: Of course, there are badly-written VSTi's that will crash Acid as well... Is a DX/DXi crash worse? I know that (from SF's point of view) there is a support overhead when supporting plugins... but you have that already with VSTi's... :)

Heh, yesterday was a bad day; not enough sleep, too much coffee.

john..