ATI Video Cards with VF

CERTEGY wrote on 3/28/2003, 2:18 PM
I currenlty have both the All In Wonder 128 PCI 32mb card and the All In Wonder Radeon AGP 64mb card. I saw a recent post about issues with these cards. SF says VF does will not work with Analog capture cards. Is this true or was this because of older drivers? ATI seems to have come out with more recent drivers and I wanted to know before I install this card what needs to be done in order to capture decent images with VF.

Thanks.

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discdude wrote on 3/28/2003, 4:00 PM
Vidcap does work with ATI All-in-Wonder products. However, it doesn't work very well. Vidcap is mainly geared towards DV capture and lacks many features (numerous compression, audio sync features mainly) that I would deem essential for successful analog capture.

Video Factory lets you select 3rd party capture programs. I'd try one of those rather than Vidcap.
Joby wrote on 3/28/2003, 8:43 PM
I use ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro with drivers MMC_7_1_no DVD and WME_R128_4_13_7078 for RAGE 128/128 PRO for anologue capture and I find it works great now I have discovered the 'secret'. I am still quite new with computer editing but I'll quote from a previous post what I have to do.
"This is the only way I can capture properly. I open 'Capture Video'from the 'Media Pool' then when the Capture section opens I click on 'Video'on the toolbar, open 'ATI Rage Theatre Capture Properties' and then click on 'ATI Rage Theatre Capture Capture Properties' underneath (yes two of them - Capture Capture) I have to do that every time I open Capture Video, in VideoFactory 2.0c. I also have to click on 'Audio'> 'Audio Capture Format' before the sound works, again every time I go there."
I have VideoWave 4 and could never make it capture audio (VW not ATI). I tried the demo of Pinnacle 8 but though it seemed to capture video and sound you only got a green blank screen when you tried to play it back. I'm pointing this out because VF is the one that works with ATI!
A question discdude, you refer to Vidcap. Is this simply a shortened way of refering to video capture or have I missed something?
Sorry to butt in-hope it helps somewhere?
Joby
discdude wrote on 3/28/2003, 10:12 PM
Joby,

First of all, seeing two "ATI Rage Theatre Capture Capture Properties" listing is normal. This is the byproduct of the weird way ATI handles things. It usually works fine although it seems somewhat redundant.

Yup, Vidcap is my shorthand for refering to the "Sonic Foundry Video Capture" program. I call it Vidcap because that's the actual file name (well, vidcap25.exe if you want to be super accurate).

Just out of curiosity, what soundcard do you have? I used to have problems way back when with my old soundcard.
Joby wrote on 3/30/2003, 7:45 AM
discdude,
The company that custom built the PC put in Creative Sound Blaster Live, and when the sound problem evolved with several editing systems changed to Diamond Monster Sound. Eventually (18 months) it seemed to come down to the ATI drivers (though they claimed not) and a faulty MGI VideoWave 4. Before the warrenty ran out I asked that they put back the Sound Blaster Live series(WDM) version 1-0-185 as I had more sound control.
I have re-installed VW several times and it still wont work, but I only used it for slow-mo which I now find out VF does! I might use VW for text as I don't find VF very user friendly!
Thanks, Joby
discdude wrote on 3/30/2003, 11:15 AM
I never tried Videowave. Basically, everyone who used it told me it was horrible and to run in the opposite direction if anyone ever tried to sell it to me.

I don't think VF 2.0 isn't so bad with titles, especially compared to VF 1.0.

Sounds like you have a sorted sound card history. However, I would get the lastest drivers as older Live drivers have a bad rep. As far as the version number of your Sound Blaster Live goes, I have no idea if it is current. The way that most people track version numbers with Creative's driver is with the last three digits of the driver version.

Example (taken from my own system):

Driver version "283" would display as:
4.12.1.283-1.40.0030

You probably gave me the number after the dash. Also, if you are running Windows 9x, Creative recommends you use the VXD drivers.