Subject:Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Posted by: Patch

Date:3/23/2003 9:53:10 PM

Hi!! I am a newbie in the digital video world and I need some advice!! I am going to purchase Vegas Video 4.0+DVD but it needs a 5.1 surround sound card!! My computer doesnt have one. Would an external sound card (Creative Labs Extigy) be sufficient to run with Vegas Video 4.0 DVD? Does it support ASIO? Thanks and any advice would be appreciated!! Patch

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: SonyEPM

Date:3/26/2003 10:30:55 AM

Echo Gina 24/96. You will love it!

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: way2slo

Date:4/1/2003 5:20:08 PM

same here gina 24, i have this card for 2yrs, low latency asio drive, it rocks solid.
if u can afford, rme multiface is another good one. www.rme-audio.com
u cant go wrong with the echo gina.

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: swattum

Date:4/1/2003 5:54:24 PM

Just a clarification. It doesn't need (as in a requirement to run the software) a 5.1 surround sound card unless you are going to actually try to do 5.1 sound. Vegas+DVD will run quite happily on a system with a regular windows compatible sound card.

The Gina looks like a nice card from the reviews I've seen and the people on this board. The M-Audio Delta 410 also looks pretty nice and is less expensive than the Gina.

My bank account can't afford either right now, so I'm still deciding which one I may go for.

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: way2slo

Date:4/1/2003 6:20:40 PM

well, VV4 runs ok with a regular soundcard. but how do u monitor surround with just a pair of stereo output(i think this is what he is looking for)? if u can afford VV4+dvd, sure u can afford a better soundcard.
just my $0.02 cents
btw, m-audio delta series is not bad, solid driver. its worth take a look.

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: swattum

Date:4/2/2003 10:54:23 AM

You are of course correct - you can't monitor surround without having an appropriate surround sound setup. I was just making the distinction that a 5.1 card is not a hard requirement unless you are going to be doing 5.1 - a newbie (such as myself) might want to move into this progressively; start with the simple stuff and stereo sound, and when ready to make the leap, then go with a decent audio card).

Alas, while I could afford Vegas+DVD, I foolishly spent $600 on a Matrox RT2500 with Adobe Premier when I was first starting out, and that coupled with the Vegas purchase (after I gave up on Matrox/Premier in frustration) kinda blew my budget for the next few months. Speaking for myself, I fully plan on a better sound card real soon, but I'm going to take a little more time researching things and not believe every review I read.

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: andyd

Date:4/4/2003 1:57:10 PM

You need to try the card that's best for your situation.
This is a long answer to your question. What I am using
below may not suit your needs.

Do you have a Digital Mixing Board or Analog Mixing Board?

For low end bottom of the barrel Video capture, you should
have bought an ATI Radeon 8500 AIW DV with 1394, or AIW
Radoen 9700 Pro card, (without 1394) and Vegas Video +DVD
....(or a 9500/9700 plain old graphics card and a GOOD video
capture card like a Media 100 / data translation company (Broadway?)
card... Oh well 20/20 hindsight.

Aside from that mistake, the Sonorus Cards work well, albeit ADAT
or SPDIF fiberoptic input only, but they work pretty well. The only
exception is when trying to use 2 cards in one machine this does
not work so well, mainly because of IRQ issues, and due to free unobstructed
design of the PCI slots on the mother board.(Not jointly hardwired to USB, Network, Onboard Audio, other devices)
1.) The recording Machine #1 Because of this I recently upgraded to a
MOTU 2408 MK2 and it actually works,(where other products, and earlier versions of the same product from the company don't) however I am only getting 20 channels out of Vegas 2.0 instead. Oh well. At least it's stable now (so far)
I am waiting for a driver upgrade to fix that, I called MOTU this
morning and told them of the bug. Got it for $550 at Guitar Center.
Who needs 96K... 24 Bit 48K is the way to go....
This is what I call my recording/tracking machine.
It also has 8 analog ins as well as the 24 digital only outputs.

I mix in hardware on an outboard mixing console myself,
so this was a big deal. I bought a TMD-4000 for $500 which is 24bit
48KHZ and 5.1 paning Capable.

2.) I dump into another older Win2K Dual CPU - ISA capable PC running wavelab or soundforge for stereo using an ISA Multiwav! Digital card. I am doing this via the AES-EBU port on the console. I call this the Mixdown (mastering) machine.


3.) The third Win98 Only machine has a SCSI card, sampler, and Midi box attached so it can do scoring, and synchronize the the Vegas machine. It has an 8 channel Alesis PCR ADAT fiberoptic card in it, for 8 channel surround mastering, and also Software Sampler operation. It used to have a horrendous Soundblaster Live! in it - not for actual playback, or use in any way for pro audio, but solely to audition SOUNDFONTS using the creative labs software - so I could transfer them to AKAI format!!!.
Also I can record at least 8 tracks WHEN (not if, because it will, I said when) the other computer crashes and is down. NO WIN2K/XP Drivers. MAc OS 9 and Win98

4.) I have a Korg 1212 I/O placed in a macintrash Blue and White G3 with performer.
The Sonorus cards are going into this machine. it worked well for Win98 but I needed 16 or 24 channels at the very least. NO WIN2K/XP Drivers. Win98 and MAC OS 9

5.) A 5th machine, as yet to be determined to be PC or Mac, which will run whatever works with the Korg 1212 I/O.

6.) The Lexicon Core 2 card is very good, again with Win98 and Mac OS 9 support only. I have one of these I gave to my DAD in a machine last year. Works Well.

7.) The Delta 10/10 or 410 is a good card, but analog only. It has MAC OS and Win9X/2K/Xp support. Not bad, but high priced for what you get. It also has a Midi interface with it.

Subject:RE: Soundcard for Vegas Video + DVD

Reply by: kilroy

Date:4/7/2003 10:17:44 AM

The Lynx2 cards are *very* nice, the absolute best we have heard by a significant margin. They are not cheap, but if you can audition one somewhere I suspect you will be hard pressed to not to hear what the extra money buys you. The convertors sound superb and if you want an oustanding 5.1 card on a totally pro level, I cannot imagine a better choice. It would be very worthwhile to save a little longer if you can't scrape together the cash now, because it would definately be worth the wait.

The Echo 24\96 cards have been raved about by people whom we respect, so they would seem to be a good choice if cash outlay is a serious issue. There are some good lightpipe cards but you would require outboard converters as well, something you may or may not want to be bothered with.